2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

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Really is no need for a pg if they can play this way.

Problem is sometimes we will need someone to run the offense in half court sets and late game executions. The other problem is that this scheme doesnt work if we can't defend. When they get a stop, they can rebound and go. When they give up the bucket, they will be facing set defenses more often then not.

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Looks like Ja might be available soon

Herro, start packin your bags lol

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viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2480034

Looks like Ja might be available soon

Herro, start packin your bags lol

Herro for Ja

Wiggins, Rozier, and Jovic for J Holiday and J Grant

Bam / Ware
Grant/ Fontecchio
Powell / Jaquez
J Holiday / Larsson
Ja / D Mitchell / Smith

[MartyConlonJr]

I'm not sure the juice is worth the squeeze on Ja. Firstly he apparently hates our new offense and his old one, but I'm not sure I want any of those players where every season revolves around their individual repeated storyline, whether it is Embiid, Zion, Ja or Kawhi. Usually injuries, health or weight, but for Ja, just keeping his head on straight.

Jrue and Jerami Grant I'm not sure are good enough to warrant taking on those salaries up to 26-27. Jrue already 35.

But as always I have faith in the Heat and what they do. That team would immediately have a punchers chance.

[MadD23]

Not sure what the deal is with Wiggins in here. Same with Herro. Wiggins will be our fourth option on offense pretty soon and he is for sure doing a hell of a job doing everything else that the normal fan normally don't see, that significantly impacts winning. And he is for sure an impact player on offense that can give you 14 to 30 points every time he is on the floor. As a fourth option! But ya'll want him to be Tatum.

When it comes to Herro, same crap, he was a 1st option (he is not supposed to be that) on a team that sucked and was swimming all year in dark waters with the whole Jimmy fiasco and he still made his first all star and had his best season ever at 25 years old, this season, he will play with other capable players specially Powell and opponents won't be able to focus on just stopping him and with Bam now being a problem behind the arc "so far" (only dependable from the corners btw), Herro will be able to play with more spacing, and without the pressure of carrying the team offensively, he will be even more efficient as a player. Do I want a super star on our team? of course, do I wish Tyler was a better defender? sure, but saying Tyler would not make this team better is just an insane take and a flawed agenda I only see a few in here pushing.

Part of the problem is that he thinks he should be and wants to be.

Because we have no one else who is better than him on offense. That's not even debatable. But he'll share the load now with Powell, Bam and others. But the difference that Tyler can create for himself and others and is our best closer, so he'll be the one carrying the team when needed.

[MadD23]

I'm not sure the juice is worth the squeeze on Ja. Firstly he apparently hates our new offense and his old one, but I'm not sure I want any of those players where every season revolves around their individual repeated storyline, whether it is Embiid, Zion, Ja or Kawhi. Usually injuries, health or weight, but for Ja, just keeping his head on straight.

Jrue and Jerami Grant I'm not sure are good enough to warrant taking on those salaries up to 26-27. Jrue already 35.

But as always I have faith in the Heat and what they do. That team would immediately have a punchers chance.

This fanbase don't learn. Now they want another Jimmy situation on steroids. Cant make this sxxx up.

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To be honest I would of prefered if this kinda deal would of happened in the offseason, you have more time to get him in and settled. Start shifting his mindset and get him on the right path. Then you have off season work outs with team mates and a full training camp to gel.

So while not ideal if you can get him for cheap you still do it, its a no brainer, the upside is just too high if it works out. This is similar to the Kyrie situation although Kyrie had already actualized his potential at that point. Ja is not as well rounded but 26 is young he still has room to improve, look at Davion his 3pt shooting improved very quickly.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

To be honest I would of prefered if this kinda deal would of happened in the offseason, you have more time to get him in and settled. Start shifting his mindset and get him on the right path. Then you have off season work outs with team mates and a full training camp to gel.

So while not ideal if you can get him for cheap you still do it, its a no brainer, the upside is just too high if it works out. This is similar to the Kyrie situation although Kyrie had already actualized his potential at that point. Ja is not as well rounded but 26 is young he still has room to improve, look at Davion his 3pt shooting improved very quickly.

Yea it’s a freshly turned 26 year old all nba level PG which is arguably the most important position in the league. Doubt it happens but we should be interested

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Looks like Ja might be available soon

Herro, start packin your bags lol

Herro for Ja

Wiggins, Rozier, and Jovic for J Holiday and J Grant

Bam / Ware
Grant/ Fontecchio
Powell / Jaquez
J Holiday / Larsson
Ja / D Mitchell / Smith

Get smaller. Check.
Get older. Check.
Get worse defensively. Check.
Get more expensive. Check.
Get players that dont fit new scheme. Check.

Well done.

Grant is one of the more immovable contracts in the league. Portland can't say yes fast enough.

[twix2500]

Hornets surely fell off quickly lol. I can't believe people thought Hornets was going to be any good. I mean what evidence made people think this? Did people really think Melo Ball aka Nerf Basketball All Star was a NBA star??

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[marson]

The only way Bam might win is if we finish top 3 in the East this season. But that’s just the first step, I’d really love to see both Bam and Spo finally get the awards they’ve deserved for years.

[Crazy-Canuck]

To be honest I would of prefered if this kinda deal would of happened in the offseason, you have more time to get him in and settled. Start shifting his mindset and get him on the right path. Then you have off season work outs with team mates and a full training camp to gel.

So while not ideal if you can get him for cheap you still do it, its a no brainer, the upside is just too high if it works out. This is similar to the Kyrie situation although Kyrie had already actualized his potential at that point. Ja is not as well rounded but 26 is young he still has room to improve, look at Davion his 3pt shooting improved very quickly.

Yea it’s a freshly turned 26 year old all nba level PG which is arguably the most important position in the league. Doubt it happens but we should be interested

You need certain players around ja to maximize him. It's no surprise that he's gotten worse since brooks was traded.

You need to protect him defensively which is something they haven't been able to do. Which i think they might be able to do here with bam, ware, and wiggins. Plus I think he'll unlock ware as a lob threat.

[twix2500]

So Heat are at the 5 game mark. One of their goals was to play faster.

Heats team pace is currently at 107.30. Compare to last season 97.08.
Current OffRtg at 116.8.
Current DefRtg at 106.3

Players Fast break points per game >2
Jamie Jaquez Jr 3.8 fbps
Norman Powell 3.7 fbps
Andrew Wiggins 3.6 fbps
Simone Fontecchio 3.0 fbps
Bam Adebayo 2.4 fbps
Davion Mitchell 2.0 fbps

[twix2500]

Pelle Larsson has been effective as a starter
2 games, 11 pts, 44.4% 3p%, 5 rbs, 3 ast, 0.5 to

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I'm not sure the juice is worth the squeeze on Ja. Firstly he apparently hates our new offense and his old one, but I'm not sure I want any of those players where every season revolves around their individual repeated storyline, whether it is Embiid, Zion, Ja or Kawhi. Usually injuries, health or weight, but for Ja, just keeping his head on straight.

Jrue and Jerami Grant I'm not sure are good enough to warrant taking on those salaries up to 26-27. Jrue already 35.

But as always I have faith in the Heat and what they do. That team would immediately have a punchers chance.

Agree to a degree on Morant. This is something players, coaches, and others would have "inside" information on and would be able to give the FO more info on. In any case, I think the asking price for Morant would put Miami off, but if it were anything like a Herro for Morant swap, I think Miami would have to consider it, especially if Miami isn't comfortable giving Herro $40+M/year. (Morant has 2 years, $86M left on his deal after this season.)

I didn't look at the numbers, but I'd guess Holiday and Grant would push Miami back into tax/apron levels the FO got Miami under, so that'd be off the table. In any case, this was mainly in jest given the ~5-game sample where they've played well.

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viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2480034

Looks like Ja might be available soon

Herro, start packin your bags lol

Herro for Ja

Wiggins, Rozier, and Jovic for J Holiday and J Grant

Bam / Ware
Grant/ Fontecchio
Powell / Jaquez
J Holiday / Larsson
Ja / D Mitchell / Smith

Get smaller. Check.
Get older. Check.
Get worse defensively. Check.
Get more expensive. Check.
Get players that dont fit new scheme. Check.

Well done.

Grant is one of the more immovable contracts in the league. Portland can't say yes fast enough.

So this was partly in jest (Memphis isn't accepting Herro for Ja straight up. Who is taking Rozier at this point?), but a few things to consider:

1. Miami seems hesitant to extend Herro at $40+M.

2. Miami already has a small team, and Jovic isn't precisely a banger on the inside. He's basically a tweener who doesn't have an elite skill beyond possibly shooting.

3. Miami would be better defensively with Holiday and Grant given only Wiggins is on their level defensively.

4. More expensive is correct, although I haven't run the numbers to see if this would actually put Miami into the tax/apron areas. But again, this was largely in jest.

5. If Grant -- big IF -- keeps up his play and stays healthy for a season, he'll be a coveted player the same way Wiggins is.