The Official Jays Off-Season Thread (Rumours, Opinions, Etc)

s e n s i · Post #41 » by **s e n s i** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:04 pm

Gregor Chisholm ‏@gregorMLB

#BlueJays exercise option on Darren Oliver. Decline option on Davis but re-sign him to one-year deal at $2.5 million.

BigLeagueChew · Post #42 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:15 pm

s e n s i wrote:Gregor Chisholm ‏@gregorMLB

#BlueJays exercise option on Darren Oliver. Decline option on Davis but re-sign him to one-year deal at $2.5 million.

Best Jays news since the season ended. Hopefully oliver comes back.

Wo1verine · Post #43 » by **Wo1verine** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:19 pm

Davis' option was for $3M, right? Did they really renegotiate to save 500K!? :lol:

satyr9 · Post #44 » by **satyr9** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:33 pm

Wo1verine wrote:Davis' option was for $3M, right? Did they really renegotiate to save 500K!?

They did. You know what they say, 500k here, 500k there. Pretty soon you're talking about real money.

dballislife · Post #45 » by **dballislife** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:39 pm

even royals are making moves now

Ado05 · Post #46 » by **Ado05** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 12:18 am

Wo1verine wrote:Davis' option was for $3M, right? Did they really renegotiate to save 500K!?

If the 2.5 is not guaranteed that it makes sense, because if the option had been picked up, it would be a guaranteed 3 mill.

EDIT: Brendan Kennedy ‏@BKennedyStar

Far as I can tell - after getting it explained to me by #bluejays PR - Davis still gets $3M total, but only $2.5M counted on 2013 payroll.

So I guess AA spent the 500K on buying him out, and than signed him to 2.5 for less against the payroll next season.

hyper316 · Post #47 » by **hyper316** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 3:29 am

that's strange, so AA working with a tight payroll that doesn't count buyouts?

Wo1verine · Post #48 » by **Wo1verine** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 6:12 am

hyper316 wrote:that's strange, so AA working with a tight payroll that doesn't count buyouts?

Wouldn't surprise me :-?

baulderdash77 · Post #49 » by **baulderdash77** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 12:00 pm

The 500k matters when you think that they have 15 million to spend and a lot of holes to fill.

augustine · Post #50 » by **augustine** » Thu Nov 1, 2012 2:17 pm

Since AA is nickle and diming on 500,000$, we can assume that Rogers has given him a strict spending cap that is not substantially above last years limit. Same old same old.

Gibby · Post #51 » by **Gibby** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:52 am

Is Joe Saunders a free agent? Maybe he'll be available for cheap. Damn rogers

Kurtz · Post #52 » by **Kurtz** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 4:55 am

Hey, let's take an optimistic approach. Maybe that 500k that's saved against the cap is important because AA expects us to be pushing the luxury tax this year.

That could happen, right? Right?

torontoaces04 · Post #53 » by **torontoaces04** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 8:03 am

Kurtz wrote:Hey, let's take an optimistic approach. Maybe that 500k that's saved against the cap is important because AA expects us to be pushing the luxury tax this year.

That could happen, right? Right?

Yeah!...and in related news, Rogers has decided to start giving away free iPhone 5's on no-term, and offering free data on all smartphone plans.

Ado05 · Post #54 » by **Ado05** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 3:13 pm

Kurtz wrote:Hey, let's take an optimistic approach. Maybe that 500k that's saved against the cap is important because AA expects us to be pushing the luxury tax this year.

That could happen, right? Right?

It could be the difference of bidding for a player. Instead of 12, they can go 12.5.

BigLeagueChew · Post #55 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 5:29 pm

The Blue Jays are casting a wide net in their search for pitching, reports Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. They have already shown interest in Zack Greinke, Anibal Sanchez, Kyle Lohse, and Ryan Dempster, among others.

Toronto is also one of several clubs to inquire about Scott Baker, joining the Red Sox, Cubs, and Rangers. The Twins recently declined the right-hander's option but hope to sign him to a new deal. The Blue Jays have made no secret of their goal to add pitching this offseason, either through trades or free agency. Free agents can begin signing with new teams tomorrow morning.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/blue-jays-targeting-several-free-agent-pitchers.html

Wo1verine · Post #56 » by **Wo1verine** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 8:15 pm

We'll be interested in EVERYONE like last year - the question is will we actually put pen to paper and get a deal done?

baulderdash77 · Post #57 » by **baulderdash77** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 8:42 pm

Gibby wrote:Is Joe Saunders a free agent? Maybe he'll be available for cheap. Damn rogers

I wouldn't be surprised if Saunders is the 2nd FA pitcher that we sign. He played on a 1 year $6 million contract next year and he'll get somewhere around the same again this year.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we get Jackson or Sanchez plus Joe Saunders. That's about what our payroll supports.

dballislife · Post #58 » by **dballislife** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 10:11 pm

jays waiting around for boxing day sales and cheap bargains, i'll start paying attention again when the goods are gone so we can start picking at the leftovers

baulderdash77 · Post #59 » by **baulderdash77** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 11:09 pm

Today is the start of the annual season for Blue Jays fans where we hear that we're interested in everyone, then we hear how they're all "not good value" or "overpaid free agents" so we end up waiting it out and signing Aaron Laffey and an invigorated Dustin McGowan to fill out the pitching rotation.

Sadly 90% of the fans agree that it's not a good idea to use the owners money on these free agents which will be all so overvalued since we have great prospects coming up anyways and we don't need them.

Likewise our fanbase wouldn't want to trade these prize prospects because "it would be just like Michael Young or Chris Carpenter all over again"

BigLeagueChew · Post #60 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Fri Nov 2, 2012 11:23 pm

baulderdash77 wrote:Today is the start of the annual season for Blue Jays fans where we hear that we're interested in everyone, then we hear how they're all "not good value" or "overpaid free agents" so we end up waiting it out and signing Aaron Laffey and an invigorated Dustin McGowan to fill out the pitching rotation.

Sadly 90% of the fans agree that it's not a good idea to use the owners money on these free agents which will be all so overvalued since we have great prospects coming up anyways and we don't need them.

Likewise our fanbase wouldn't want to trade these prize prospects because "it would be just like Michael Young or Chris Carpenter all over again"

The difference being that this year AA said we will spend in the offseason so people have a reason to be optimistic that we will, whereas last year everyone wanted Darvish and Cespedes when management never said anything about spending at the time.