Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67)

[catch20two]

well Klay Thompson had a worse PER that Lance did, i dont really take PER stats seriously unless its really bad not slightly below average

Yea and even Klay is a bit overrated but at least Klay averaged 18 points instead of 13 like Lance. It's a bit concerning that Lance is a stat stuffer but his overall efficiency and PER afterwards is meh.

[JDR720]

well Klay Thompson had a worse PER that Lance did, i dont really take PER stats seriously unless its really bad not slightly below average

Yea and even Klay is a bit overrated but at least Klay averaged 18 points instead of 13 like Lance. It's a bit concerning that Lance is a stat stuffer but his overall efficiency and PER afterwards is meh.

its because of turnovers, he was basically their PG

[Sonrisen]

I want him now. We need some attitude, scoring and not being afraid of the heat on this team.

There's a difference between "attitude" and immature douche bag. Big difference.

Doubt he would do that on this squad. Way too much leadership

Idiots don't care about "leadership", that's why they're idiots. Granger was the team leader before they traded him and Lance was an idiot then. Everyone on his team hates him, there's a reason for that.

[Sonrisen]

Lance would be a solid pickup, every team not named the Spurs needs a little crazy

Why?

[catch20two]

well Klay Thompson had a worse PER that Lance did, i dont really take PER stats seriously unless its really bad not slightly below average

Yea and even Klay is a bit overrated but at least Klay averaged 18 points instead of 13 like Lance. It's a bit concerning that Lance is a stat stuffer but his overall efficiency and PER afterwards is meh.

its because of turnovers, he was basically their PG

Then that mean that he's not that good at it. 6 mil is what he deserve and 8 mil is the max if we get desperate enough.

[Liver_Pooty]

Yea and even Klay is a bit overrated but at least Klay averaged 18 points instead of 13 like Lance. It's a bit concerning that Lance is a stat stuffer but his overall efficiency and PER afterwards is meh.

its because of turnovers, he was basically their PG

Then that mean that he's not that good at it. 6 mil is what he deserve and 8 mil is the max if we get desperate enough.

Lance is a better overall player than Thompson and its not even close. Come on now.

[Liver_Pooty]

Yea and even Klay is a bit overrated but at least Klay averaged 18 points instead of 13 like Lance. It's a bit concerning that Lance is a stat stuffer but his overall efficiency and PER afterwards is meh.

its because of turnovers, he was basically their PG

Then that mean that he's not that good at it. 6 mil is what he deserve and 8 mil is the max if we get desperate enough.

Lol George Hill gets paid 8 mill and Lance is worth 6 mill.

Okey Dokey!

[catch20two]

its because of turnovers, he was basically their PG

Then that mean that he's not that good at it. 6 mil is what he deserve and 8 mil is the max if we get desperate enough.

Lance is a better overall player than Thompson and its not even close. Come on now.

I would rather have Klay than Lance and I'm sure the Pacers would accept that swap from the Warriors without hesitation if possible. Come on now.

[catch20two]

its because of turnovers, he was basically their PG

Then that mean that he's not that good at it. 6 mil is what he deserve and 8 mil is the max if we get desperate enough.

Lol George Hill gets paid 8 mill and Lance is worth 6 mill.

Okey Dokey!

George Hill is another example of a young player getting overpaid because they thought he would be more when they initially signed him and now they're kinda regretting it and wishing they had a better PG.

Okey Dokey!

[BigSlam]

There's a difference between "attitude" and immature douche bag. Big difference.

Doubt he would do that on this squad. Way too much leadership

Idiots don't care about "leadership", that's why they're idiots. Granger was the team leader before they traded him and Lance was an idiot then. Everyone on his team hates him, there's a reason for that.

If our "leaders" can't keep a guy like Gordon in check then how are they going to handle an even bigger, younger and wayyyyyyy less mature distraction like Stephenson?

[LofJ]

I think actually getting paid like a legit NBA player will solve a lot of Stephenson's issues. It's easy to forget that he's that he was drafted in the 2nd round because of character concerns and a mildly disappointing freshman year at Cincinnati. So he was getting paid very little compared to the Pacer's other starters. The fact that he was trying to inflate his stats doesn't bother me when taking that into account. PG, Hill, West, and Hibbert already got paid. Stephenson has made very little compared to them and that definitely isn't fair. It's only natural that he was over zealous trying to prove his worth this year.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Larry Bird and the rest of the 2nd best team in the east couldn't keep this guy under control and he killed their chemistry. It would only be worse on the Hornets.


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[BobsBuddy]

One of the annoucers commented during game 6 that Larry Bird had already talked with Stephenson after game 5 about his actions on the court. On Nba TV when Paul George was asked about Lance coming back,he said that Larry would need to decide Lances future. I would think Bird and Lance's agent are really $%^%$@ ed right now. Lances free agency doesn't start until July 1st. I wonder if it's possible that Larry could pull this off trading both Stephenson(sign and trade) and Hibbert and 2014 1st round pick to Minnesota for Martin and Love? Or could the Knicks ,Houston and Indiana do a 3 way trade where Stephenson ,Hibbert ends up in New York , T Chandler,P, Chandler and Linn in Indiana and Melo , Turner in Houston.

NYK handled JR...They probably can handle Stephenson.....
Hornets need to go after Afflalo to start at 2 by trading 9 for 12 plus Afflalo and backup with Neal ..+ add a guard in the draft .
Our Free agent money absolutly should not be used on a immature idiot like Stephenson

[ball teacher]

My concern is how team oriented he is. Didn't sound like he was much this year but maybe he's just out of character because he's in a contract year.

Lance wasnt the problem, the Pacers team was. They couldnt do anything with Lance cause the team has no leadership or toughness except for Lance and that's not good when your lowest paid starter is punking the"stars" who are getting the big checks.

Every team should have a few vets who will put the young guys in check when they get out of line, the Pacers didnt have it. Their so called "Superstar" publicly said he wants his rival (Lebron James) to mentor him like Yoda did with Luke Skywalker....if that isnt the most vaginal statement I've ever heard in sports history. Paul George even got mad at Lance for trash talking to Lebron cause Paul was afraid Lebron would go off on them!

Then you have Hibbert, 7'2 and cotton soft. I've seen tougher female softball players than these guys. If the Pacers were smart they'd resign Lance and get some guys with heart and toughness and they'd be ok. We dont need the guy tho cause he doesnt answer our needs unless we want to use him as a big PG cause he can definitely run a offense, but he's not the scorer we need.

[catch20two]

The Pacers were winning before Stephenson started getting playing time. Let's not try to make it as if Stephenson was the reason why they were winning. Stephenson just stepped in and took shots away from Hibbert and Hill in the offense that lead them deep into the playoffs the previous years.

[HornetJail]

Doubt he would do that on this squad. Way too much leadership

Idiots don't care about "leadership", that's why they're idiots. Granger was the team leader before they traded him and Lance was an idiot then. Everyone on his team hates him, there's a reason for that.

If our "leaders" can't keep a guy like Gordon in check then how are they going to handle an even bigger, younger and wayyyyyyy less mature distraction like Stephenson?

we kept gordon in check by not playing him. Gordon sucked so we removed him from the rotation and eventually waived him. You can deal with a little bit when it's a really good player like Stephenson, because he can back it up with a ton of good basketball

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

David West, Ball Teacher. There is No one on the Hornets who is a functional leader outside of Kemba and he doesn't have nearly the playoff chops that either Lance or David West do. It would fail spectacularly.



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[Sonrisen]

Exactly

Doubt he would do that on this squad. Way too much leadership

Idiots don't care about "leadership", that's why they're idiots. Granger was the team leader before they traded him and Lance was an idiot then. Everyone on his team hates him, there's a reason for that.

If our "leaders" can't keep a guy like Gordon in check then how are they going to handle an even bigger, younger and wayyyyyyy less mature distraction like Stephenson?

[ARHornet]

The Pacers were winning before Stephenson started getting playing time. Let's not try to make it as if Stephenson was the reason why they were winning. Stephenson just stepped in and took shots away from Hibbert and Hill in the offense that lead them deep into the playoffs the previous years.

The Pacers made it to the ECF the 2 years that Stephenson started. They never made it that far when he wasn't playing. Stephenson is also shooting a higher percentage than Hill or Hibbert on more shots than either of them. He's a good player and would be a great addition to this team if he wasn't crazy.

[catch20two]

The Pacers were winning before Stephenson started getting playing time. Let's not try to make it as if Stephenson was the reason why they were winning. Stephenson just stepped in and took shots away from Hibbert and Hill in the offense that lead them deep into the playoffs the previous years.

The Pacers made it to the ECF the 2 years that Stephenson started. They never made it that far when he wasn't playing. Stephenson is also shooting a higher percentage than Hill or Hibbert on more shots than either of them. He's a good player and would be a great addition to this team if he wasn't crazy.

But Stephenson didn't really become a factor until this year. He probably averaged like 8 points last year.

Whatever the case is I agree that Stephenson is a talent and wouldn't mind him on our team but not at no 10 mil which I doubt he'd get offered anyway. I wouldn't even want him at 8 mil unless we completely ignore the SG position until free agency. At 6 mil I would be ecstatic to have him.