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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#41 » by Studemire1 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:52 am

Are there less Raptors fans there?

If so I might have to give it a look.. :lol:
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#42 » by Kawhi M8 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:55 am

Han Solo wrote:ProSportsDaily?? :lol: Worst mods of any board on the internetE


That Yuri mod here would probs give them a run for their money.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#43 » by HotRocks34 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:11 am

PockyCandy wrote:
Is this forum better than insidehoops?


Yes, it is.

This is the best non-team-specific basketball forum on the internet, IMO.

This is the place to be.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#44 » by ThaRegul8r » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:41 am

Han Solo wrote:
ThaRegul8r wrote:
RayBan-Sematra wrote:But really why are we even talking about another forum here?
There is no need for that.


Agreed. There's no need to stoop to that level. I'm a member of other (non-basketball) forums which don't even allow talking about other forums to prevent forum wars.

Usually a forum is going to say it's better than another to begin with (what, someone's going to say, "No, the other board is better"?). All one has to do is spend time on a board and see for himself which one he prefers.

ProSportsDaily?? :lol: Worst mods of any board on the internet.. Ban you for even saying another forum's name.. That place is LAME


Hmm. No matter how much I look at my post, I don't see anything about PSD in it. Perhaps you can help me by pointing out where in my post I said anything about the forum you mentioned.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#45 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:05 am

RealGM is my most visited website, beating out the likes of big names like google, yahoo, Facebook, and twitter.

its a smoothly run website....sometimes maybe a little too smoothly, but I'm a long timer here, and i can respect that. theres a reason realgm is winning as compared to other basketball forums
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#46 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:14 am

Doctor MJ wrote:So speaking as mod here, I'm find with a thread like this popping up every now and again because the alternative is to look like we have some agenda here. The last time this came up we were in the middle of the Top 100 project, and while I forget the specific numbers I said something along these lines:

If you compare the same project on the 3 major basketball boards being discuss, what you saw is that the other two looked very similar but RealGM looked very different. RealGM had far more posts discussing every spot in the project to that point, and the average length of each post was considerably longer.

I'd say in a nutshell that's the difference specifically between RealGM's PC board and other boards alone the same lines: The discussion here is more studious. More academic, more well researched, etc.

That doesn't necessarily make it better though. It all depends on what you personally want. We get posters here sometimes complaining about the nerd-iness, and I just wonder why they choose to come here given that there are plenty of places to go where you don't have to deal with that.

2 other notes:
1. More generally, I get the impression that moderation is more strict around here than on other sites. Again, that might not be something you like.

2. By no means am I implying that RealGM has a monopoly on badass researchers and other basketball intellects on the internet. In my experience, every major site has folks like that. I think there's a more supportive culture of this here though, and I think that's why you tend to see the top posters from other sites dip their toes in on RealGM too even if they don't want to abandon the site they made their reputation with, whereas the opposite I'd say is less true.



I totally agree with this except the last paragraph. Im saying this because I used another username before and I got suspended indefinetly. Then I followed all rules and regulations and apologized repeatedly, however, to my defeat, I gave up and started a new username so I can post in the general board again. As a matter of fact, I still don't even know why I got penalized. But I do know which thread it was. I just don't know what I said since it was overwritten.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#47 » by WhatsMyName » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:17 am

PockyCandy wrote:1: Stans. Especially Jordan stans. I despise all stans though.


Well, like you see below even this thread isn't clear of a Jordan "stan" but except MJ there aren't much fanboys around.


MrKnox wrote:Plenty of 15 year old homers here too. How else do you explain people putting KG in the top 10 or listing Nash as the greatest offensive weapon ever or ranking Dirk above Larry Bird or seriously comparing Kobe and Lebron to Jordan?
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#48 » by J Shuttlesworth » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:22 am

Hey OP, I came from ISH as well. The best part about this forum is that 3ball isn't on here :D
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#49 » by Rangure » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:24 am

oaklandwarriors wrote:This place used to be pretty good but I feel like the And-1 system took a toll on post quality. It's still the best forum but not as good as it used to be.


Every site that implements a karma/likes system is bound to lose quality. People get too hung up posting **** one line puns because they are easily digested, ending up with many votes. It's fine if the thread was silly or humorous from the beginning, but other than that it just worsens the overall quality of the board. I wish they would get rid of this system, even though I like to vote, but I'd prefer improved quality of discussion.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#50 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:27 am

MrKnox wrote:
Porzingis wrote:RealGM, not close. ISH are bunch of 15 yr old homers.



Plenty of 15 year old homers here too. How else do you explain people putting KG in the top 10 or listing Nash as the greatest offensive weapon ever or ranking Dirk above Larry Bird or seriously comparing Kobe and Lebron to Jordan?


Well, those 15 year olds are pretty darn smart then because I'd put KG in the top 10, I'd list Nash as ONE of the greatest (not greatest) offensive weapons (because he provides offensive firepower not only from himself, but from the players around him), and although dirk is not necessarily above Larry Bird, he's as close as its going to come. Lastly, when you're comparing Kobe/Lebron/Jordan and think that Lebron>Kobe, then I can't possibly believe you/fan would be older than, lets say, age 23. I also can't fathom the fact that you/fan have even seen all or most of kobe and jordans career, but you/fan probably have seen all of Lebrons career because you/fan are just that young. So when it comes to calling out 15 year olds and on top of that, saying lebron>kobe, that means you/fan need to take a step back and revise basketball. I'm not calling 'you' out, I'm just stating that there are fans out there like 'you' that may not be 15 years old, but may probably have the knowledge of a 15 year old when it comes to the NBA,and there may be 15 year olds that have knowledge of a 40 year old. :P
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#51 » by Fadeaway_Jumper » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:29 am

ISH is hilarious and I mostly lurk over there for the different takes and the "meltdowns". But I like that most of the posters don't take the numbers come from a calculator as gospel. For example AD is not the best PF of all time over there

Both are better than Reddit though for discussion. But reddit has the better highlights/News for NBA IMO
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#52 » by Wonderllama » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:34 am

It gets fun around playoff time.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#53 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:38 am

Rangure wrote:
oaklandwarriors wrote:This place used to be pretty good but I feel like the And-1 system took a toll on post quality. It's still the best forum but not as good as it used to be.


Every site that implements a karma/likes system is bound to lose quality. People get too hung up posting **** one line puns because they are easily digested, ending up with many votes. It's fine if the thread was silly or humorous from the beginning, but other than that it just worsens the overall quality of the board. I wish they would get rid of this system, even though I like to vote, but I'd prefer improved quality of discussion.



ill be the first to admit that I'm GUILTY of this and I agree with both of these posters. Get rid of that crap. Posters like myself will get involved in that and1/like crap. Those 1 line bombarders are killer though. :wink:
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#54 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:09 am

giordunk wrote:I think the most intelligent basketball discussion happens on APBR forums. They have a couple of real analytics guys, and I met the admin of that site by chance. He's been watching NBA since the 50s, and he told me there are a few NBA analytic hires that used to be APBR members. But that forum is a little too square and this one is kind of fun. Just my thoughts. I think RealGM is the best balance of the more active basketball forums.


Soon after I found RealGM in 2005, and was impressed enough to join, I found APBRmetrics and joined it. I actually thought that that would become my forum of choice, but I found it frustrating. 2 big reasons:

1) By its very nature, APBRmetrics is stat discussion and I didn't just want to talk about stats.

2) While APBRmetrics did have contributions from the cream of the crop, the early big influencers of analytics, those guys were mostly busy and not that actively involved. The average user over there I quickly realized didn't impress me even just talking about stats. I felt like I was constantly derided due to the fact that I felt like +/- stats were the big new breakthrough while most of the folks over there were interested in promoting their personal reinvention of the wheel ("mine is better than PER!"). This is ironic in retrospect because the folks from that board that did get hired by NBA teams for analytics were mostly guys doing work in the +/- stuff who came in after I'd given up trying to work with people on there.

Anyway, I would still recommend APBRmetrics as the forum of choice if you want to do stat work, but if you're an analyst first and foremost I think RealGM is the place to be.

Though I will say one other thing: I just took your mention of APBR to mean APBRmetrics, but there actually is an APBR forum too. In theory APBRmetrics should be seen as something like our Stats board while APBR would be RealGM itself, but the APBR forum has just never taken off. I'm sure that what gets posted there is high quality, but without volume reaching a tipping point, participation is simply a chore.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#55 » by naabzor » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:27 am

Real gm is good but from the advent of game 6 now is pretty much a twitter feed. At least, the general board.
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Post#56 » by Drakeem » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:02 am

Shout out KTT
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#57 » by Dirk » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:14 am

RealGM would be better if there was more activity controlling the General Board. There are way too many threads created that could be merged together or shouldn't be opened at all. Just look at the ridiculous number of topics on KD. How any tweet is enough to open a new topic about an ongoing subject(Dragic for instance). Besides this... people open topics with deceiving titles... just to bait people into clicking. I think the moderation should definitely look into this.

I also miss the more simple version of the forums, without the news feed on top and bottom. I don't remember ever clicking on any because they're always old news.

There are a lot of quality posters here and good discussions. But the most unique thing is the easy access to different team forums. Quickly get the feel of fans. The ups and downs. Boards like the Knicks or Raptors have always been fun to read. And you have them all a click away with the ability of posting something if you want to.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#58 » by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:16 pm

Back then, I would just visit three forums daily and part of my hoops dose: RealGM, HoopsHype, and ISH

HoopsHype at its prime was nice, but that place eventually died due to some posters getting old/being an ****/social media and other sht, and the admins not giving a **** about the forums as long as their frontpage was still getting clicks. But I admit, I really liked that over ISH and RGM back then because it was the first ever bball forum I joined and modded

ISH I was actively lurking/posting from 09-13. But I probably stopped really posting right around the LeBron Heat era due to the trolls and sht that was going on there, after the 2013 Finals I don't think I visited ISH again up to now

So that left me with RGM, and eventually got accustomed to it. Still high traffic throughout all these years and being solid. It still has flaws no doubt, but there aint a perfect site obviously lol and I enjoy the PC boards as well reading through some quality posts
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#59 » by D.Brasco » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:36 pm

ISH is like watching a street fight it's often entertaining to take a look but you don't necesarilly want to get involved.
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Re: InsideHoops VS RealGM 

Post#60 » by MiltownHawkeye » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:56 pm

ISH is the worst thing ever. It's where I go when I want to get pissed off about something. It's just a giant pissing contest between Kobe fans and LeBron fans.

There was a thread where someone said Kobe has always been a better defender than Tim Duncan in complete seriousness, and no one even touched it for the next 6 pages.
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