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Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns?

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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#41 » by Revived » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:22 pm

I wonder if IT gets booed next home game if he isn't traded.
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Post#42 » by LApwnd » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:27 pm

SF88 wrote:I wonder if IT gets booed next home game if he isn't traded.


dam, good luck getting any future FA to sign there if that happened. He's not the one asking out, Dragic is.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#43 » by RunDogGun » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:29 pm

Nando88 wrote:Spend that extra money in the off season on Greg Monroe and Wes Mathews somehow pls


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How? We'd have to get rid of so many contracts just to free up the cash. We definitely have to trade IT for an expiring this season just to offer either guy the contract they want. I just don't think we could clear the cash to get both. But it would be cool if we did. :D
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#44 » by RunDogGun » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:31 pm

LApwnd wrote:
SF88 wrote:I wonder if IT gets booed next home game if he isn't traded.


dam, good luck getting any future FA to sign there if that happened. He's not the one asking out, Dragic is.

We don't have enough real fans at games to cheer the team on when we are winning. There is no way they could get coordinated enough to boo anyone, even opposing players. But we usually have more away fans than home town ones. :(
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#45 » by aIvin adams » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:02 pm

SF88 wrote:I wonder if IT gets booed next home game if he isn't traded.


what the heck??

wyhy would we boo IT? for playing the same high-efficiency scoring basketball that he played last year before we signed him?

this thread is turrible
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#46 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:17 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
SF88 wrote:I wonder if IT gets booed next home game if he isn't traded.


what the heck??

wyhy would we boo IT? for playing the same high-efficiency scoring basketball that he played last year before we signed him?

this thread is turrible


SF would rather blame everyone except Dragic.
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Post#47 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:18 pm

LApwnd wrote:why blame IT, your GM is the one who signed him after already having drafted a PG to boot.


Goran's to blame. He's seeing dollar signs.
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Post#48 » by LApwnd » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:20 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
LApwnd wrote:why blame IT, your GM is the one who signed him after already having drafted a PG to boot.


Goran's to blame. He's seeing dollar signs.


you guys paid Bledsoe twice what Dragic gets paid, you blame him for wanting money?
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#49 » by Revived » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:22 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
aIvin adams wrote:
SF88 wrote:I wonder if IT gets booed next home game if he isn't traded.


what the heck??

wyhy would we boo IT? for playing the same high-efficiency scoring basketball that he played last year before we signed him?

this thread is turrible


SF would rather blame everyone except Dragic.

I'm not saying Dragic is completely right but I definitely don't think its mostly his fault like many here do.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#50 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:23 pm

LApwnd wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
LApwnd wrote:why blame IT, your GM is the one who signed him after already having drafted a PG to boot.


Goran's to blame. He's seeing dollar signs.


you guys paid Bledsoe twice what Dragic gets paid, you blame him for wanting money?


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Post#51 » by aIvin adams » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:53 pm

SF88 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
aIvin adams wrote:
what the heck??

wyhy would we boo IT? for playing the same high-efficiency scoring basketball that he played last year before we signed him?

this thread is turrible


SF would rather blame everyone except Dragic.

I'm not saying Dragic is completely right but I definitely don't think its mostly his fault like many here do.


no need to assign blame yet

if the dragic trade is aesome then everyone wins 8-)
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Post#52 » by Alswank87 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:14 pm

As an outsider looking in, the only person to blame for Dragic wanting to leave is your GM. You have Dragic, who is looking like a great PG, so what does your GM do? He throws a ton of money at another PG in Bledsoe. The head coach makes it work. The next year in the offseason, you have a glut of PGs and need wings and post players, so what does your GM do? He drafts 1 wing and a PG in the first round of the draft, and then brings in ANOTHER high priced PG. Seriously? This guy is a moron. He reminds me of Matt millen when he kept drafting WRs in the first round. I remember face palming right when they signed IT, and I wasn't even aware that they drafted a PG at the time. If there is someone to blame here, it's not IT, it's McDonough. That guy should be fired.
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Post#53 » by Frank Lee » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:40 pm

Alswank87 wrote:As an outsider looking in, the only person to blame for Dragic wanting to leave is your GM. You have Dragic, who is looking like a great PG, so what does your GM do? He throws a ton of money at another PG in Bledsoe. The head coach makes it work. The next year in the offseason, you have a glut of PGs and need wings and post players, so what does your GM do? He drafts 1 wing and a PG in the first round of the draft, and then brings in ANOTHER high priced PG. Seriously? This guy is a moron. He reminds me of Matt millen when he kept drafting WRs in the first round. I remember face palming right when they signed IT, and I wasn't even aware that they drafted a PG at the time. If there is someone to blame here, it's not IT, it's McDonough. That guy should be fired.


Nut-shelled, except perhaps the moron thing. Jury is still out. I think McDuh got snared in the 'accumulation of assets' his mentor Ainge is doing.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#54 » by Alswank87 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:10 pm

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Alswank87 wrote:As an outsider looking in, the only person to blame for Dragic wanting to leave is your GM. You have Dragic, who is looking like a great PG, so what does your GM do? He throws a ton of money at another PG in Bledsoe. The head coach makes it work. The next year in the offseason, you have a glut of PGs and need wings and post players, so what does your GM do? He drafts 1 wing and a PG in the first round of the draft, and then brings in ANOTHER high priced PG. Seriously? This guy is a moron. He reminds me of Matt millen when he kept drafting WRs in the first round. I remember face palming right when they signed IT, and I wasn't even aware that they drafted a PG at the time. If there is someone to blame here, it's not IT, it's McDonough. That guy should be fired.


Nut-shelled, except perhaps the moron thing. Jury is still out. I think McDuh got snared in the 'accumulation of assets' his mentor Ainge is doing.

The issue with accumulating assets like this is that other teams know you are more inclined to trade a PG asset, which devalues each individual. Even before Dragic demanded a trade, the suns weren't going to get fair value in return for any of their PGs. Now that Dragic is demanding a trade, the Suns are probably going to get even less value than estimated because other teams know that the suns will either make a trade or lose one of their best players for nothing. He's also building assets at the deepest position in the NBA. It's just a poor strategy to me.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#55 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:32 pm

Alswank87 wrote:As an outsider looking in, the only person to blame for Dragic wanting to leave is your GM. You have Dragic, who is looking like a great PG, so what does your GM do? He throws a ton of money at another PG in Bledsoe. The head coach makes it work. The next year in the offseason, you have a glut of PGs and need wings and post players, so what does your GM do? He drafts 1 wing and a PG in the first round of the draft, and then brings in ANOTHER high priced PG. Seriously? This guy is a moron. He reminds me of Matt millen when he kept drafting WRs in the first round. I remember face palming right when they signed IT, and I wasn't even aware that they drafted a PG at the time. If there is someone to blame here, it's not IT, it's McDonough. That guy should be fired.


We drafted Ennis and signed IT before Bledsoe committed. Some of the blame here can be pointed towards Bledsoe for not talking to us for 2 months last summer.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#56 » by Revived » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:44 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/567572536221650946[/tweet]
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Post#57 » by DaleyBlind » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:57 pm

SF88 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/567572536221650946[/tweet]


whats that mean?
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Post#58 » by Flying Colors » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:59 pm

DaleyBlind wrote:
SF88 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/567572536221650946[/tweet]


whats that mean?

it means to be honest with yourself and people, To keep it truthful.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#59 » by Jaykoolzboy » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:01 pm

It's time to make this Eric Bledsoe's team, I see EBlast turning into an allstar next year.
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Re: Isaiah Thomas has ruined the Suns? 

Post#60 » by Revived » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:02 pm

Jaykoolzboy wrote:It's time to make this Eric Bledsoe's team, I see EBlast turning into an allstar next year.

This is now his team.

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