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Post#41 » by Balkman32 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:29 pm

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Thunderhead wrote:After listening to these exit interviews, especially Nick and Serge, all the defense needs is healthy roster and a training camp. Nicks interview was really good, he gave a brief insight into what NBA defense is really about. And from that, you can see why Perk was missed.

Nick says Kanter is just a young player and playing PnR defense is about recognition, and Kanter will get better at that. Which is what I've always thought bout Perk. Perk could stand under the basket, see plays develop and call out what is happening, and keep everyone where they need to be.

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Post#42 » by Balkman32 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:44 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:I'm a little curious about the rationale behind getting rid of Brooks now. He's obviously a good defensive coach and he just put together a great offense while missing KD and Serge, so what's the knock now? Also, why would anyone want to replace him with Thibs who has the same strengths and weaknesses?


They were one of the worst defensive teams this year. yes there were a ton of injuries. But, what is their offense? I mean because I saw a lot of iso and drive. It would be so much nicer to get open looks like the spurs do.

The defense was fantastic prior to the trades, especially considering the D-league roster that started the year. After the trades it was iffy but not unacceptable until Serge, Roberson and Nick all went down, that means the five best defenders we started the year with were all gone. We got a ton of open looks off of those iso's and drives, we scored at a very good rate (and had an O-reb rate that actually made our efficiency look worse than it was) and we were missing our best player, third best player and sixth best. There's only so much a coach can do, and blaming Brooks for any of this is just not right.

Edit: and they weren't really one of the worst defenses, they were 16th.


The whole season they were 16. But, once Serge went out they were one of the worst. Who is the 6th best player Collison?

I don't think firing Brooks is just doe to this season, but kind of like Mark Jackson he just wasen't the one to bring them to the promise land.

If the big 3 can stay semi injury free they are very able to win the championship. They just need to stay healthy and figure out what we want to do w/ Kanter, Waiters, Lamb, PJ3, Novak, and Singler.

Because, I cant see any of the below players moving:

Adams/ McGary
Ibaka/ Collison
Durant
Roberson/ Morrow
Westbrrok/ Augistin
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Post#43 » by babase » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:42 pm

I would've been fine with replacing Brooks a couple years ago, but at this point I think they might as well stick with him another year. Not sure there's another guy out there who would have a Steve Kerr-type impact.
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Post#44 » by kurtis48239 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:13 am

I would do EVERYTHING in my power to lure thibodeau from chi.With the reports about thibs tired of management,he probably wants something like,what stan and jackson got,total power.
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Post#45 » by spearsy23 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:55 am

kurtis48239 wrote:I would do EVERYTHING in my power to lure thibodeau from chi.With the reports about thibs tired of management,he probably wants something like,what stan and jackson got,total power.

Yeah, there is no way in hell I would give anyone total power...we have Presti. Beyond that, Thibs has done nothing Scottie hasn't done better.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#46 » by Balkman32 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:05 pm

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kurtis48239 wrote:I would do EVERYTHING in my power to lure thibodeau from chi.With the reports about thibs tired of management,he probably wants something like,what stan and jackson got,total power.

Yeah, there is no way in hell I would give anyone total power...we have Presti. Beyond that, Thibs has done nothing Scottie hasn't done better.


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Post#47 » by KD35Brah » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:26 pm

Anyone want to do a breakdown of what the big 3 and Kanter are going to get under the new cap?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/589169246455869440[/tweet]
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Post#48 » by bondom34 » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:33 am

KD35Brah wrote:Anyone want to do a breakdown of what the big 3 and Kanter are going to get under the new cap?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/589169246455869440[/tweet]

Per this:

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/proje ... ary-tiers/

2015-16 Bottom Tier (~$15.8 Million)
Kawhi Leonard (restricted free agent), Danny Green – San Antonio Spurs

Greg Monroe, Reggie Jackson (RFA) – Detroit Pistons

Jimmy Butler (RFA) – Chicago Bulls

Draymond Green (RFA) – Golden State Warriors

Enes Kanter (RFA) – Oklahoma City Thunder: Though I don't see him getting this much

Tobias Harris (RFA) – Orlando Magic

Brandon Knight (RFA) – Phoenix Suns

Wesley Matthews – Portland Trail Blazers

Omer Asik – New Orleans Pelicans

2015-16 Middle Tier (~$18.9 Million)
Kevin Love (player option) – Cleveland Cavaliers

Marc Gasol, Jeff Green (PO) – Memphis Grizzlies

LaMarcus Aldridge, Robin Lopez, Arron Afflalo (PO) – Portland Trail Blazers

DeAndre Jordan – Los Angeles Clippers

Goran Dragic (PO) – Miami HEAT

Roy Hibbert – Indiana Pacers (PO)

Rajon Rondo – Dallas Mavericks

Paul Millsap – Atlanta Hawks

2015-16 Top Tier (~$22.1 Million)

LeBron James (PO) – Cleveland Cavaliers

Dwyane Wade (PO), Luol Deng (PO) – Miami HEAT

Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili – San Antonio Spurs

Monta Ellis (PO), Tyson Chandler – Dallas Mavericks

Al Jefferson (PO) – Charlotte Hornets

Amir Johnson – Toronto Raptors

2016-17 Bottom Tier (~$21.0 Million)

Anthony Davis (RFA) – New Orleans Pelicans

Damian Lillard (RFA) – Portland Trail Blazers

Andre Drummond (RFA) – Detroit Pistons

Hassan Whiteside – Miami HEAT

Bradley Beal (RFA) – Washington Wizards

Harrison Barnes (RFA) – Golden State Warriors

Jonas Valanciunas (RFA) – Toronto Raptors

2016-17 Middle Tier (~$25.3 Million)

Kevin Durant – Oklahoma City Thunder: Russ and Ibaka should be this tier too

Joakim Noah – Chicago Bulls

Al Horford – Atlanta Hawks

Mike Conley – Memphis Grizzlies

DeMar DeRozan (PO) – Toronto Raptors

Danilo Gallinari – Denver Nuggets

Ryan Anderson – New Orleans Pelicans

Brandon Jennings – Detroit Pistons

Nicolas Batum – Portland Trail Blazers

2016-17 Top Tier (~$29.5 Million)

Kobe Bryant – Los Angeles Lakers

Dwight Howard (PO) – Houston Rockets

Pau Gasol (PO) – Chicago Bulls

Nene – Washington Wizards

Joe Johnson, Deron Williams (early termination option) – Brooklyn Nets


Though KD can sign a 1 year deal too and be next tier up if I'm correct, though I hope he doesn't. As well, kinda hoping they just trade Waiters for salary relief, that 5 mil can keep them under the tax maybe. Then the huge jump and they can pay away.
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Post#49 » by HeartSouloma » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:58 am

KD35Brah wrote:Anyone want to do a breakdown of what the big 3 and Kanter are going to get under the new cap?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/589169246455869440[/tweet]



That's insane! :o
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Post#50 » by Pillendreher » Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:25 am

Besider the Kanter extension the most important question of the offseason is gonna be: Who starts at SG? I like Roberson as a player: He's a great defender, good finisher and seems to compete every night. If he can geht his 3pt-shot to an acceptable level (let's say 36 % or something like that), we might already have a 3&D SG. Then you have Morrow who should get his minutes as well and Waiters and potentially Singler.

I don't think it'd be wise to draft yet another "wing-project". Unless it's a guy that's already NBA-ready I don't see much sense in drafting another SG. Maybe Presti could take the Pick, Lamb and Jones and get a solid Wing guy.
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Post#51 » by HeartSouloma » Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:07 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Besider the Kanter extension the most important question of the offseason is gonna be: Who starts at SG? I like Roberson as a player: He's a great defender, good finisher and seems to compete every night. If he can geht his 3pt-shot to an acceptable level (let's say 36 % or something like that), we might already have a 3&D SG. Then you have Morrow who should get his minutes as well and Waiters and potentially Singler.

I don't think it'd be wise to draft yet another "wing-project". Unless it's a guy that's already NBA-ready I don't see much sense in drafting another SG. Maybe Presti could take the Pick, Lamb and Jones and get a solid Wing guy.


I believe Roberson will retain the SG position due to his defense. I agree that he needs to work on his shooting to an acceptable level.
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Post#52 » by Zagor » Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:37 am

If Kanter signs new contract(I think he will),then Roberson is sure thing on SG position. Why? Because then Thunder doesn't need another offensive player on that position. If they could survive on offensive side of floor and be one of elite teams with Thabo and Perkins in starting roles,sure they can with only Roberson as liability.

Headline news is that about Brooks job.
I can understand why people are sceptic about some new coach in year when Durant is going on market,but if Presti thinks like that....then he absolutely should bring assistant coach who knows a lot about offense.
If Brooks is such wonderful person and terrific guy for man management,then why don't bring some who will help in other aspects of team.
Gentry is doing very good job in GSW. Dan D'Antoni was excellent assistant coach for offense under his brother,he was pushing for very quick offense(hey Russ) which could be something Thunder players could do. That is some example.
There is ton of other guys. Just hire one of them,and let Brooks care about defense,energy and great relation within players.
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Post#53 » by KD35Brah » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:32 pm

I had a feeling about this when Slater tweeted about it before the season

Serge:
I’ve had a bad ankle all year long. Bad back all year long. It’s not just that I got injured late in the season, which everybody knows about… I hurt my ankle with the National Team last summer and it’s been bad all year long.

New Hoopshype interview from Serge
http://thunderousintentions.com/2015/04 ... xt-season/


Reggie sitting out that one game when he was pouting about not being traded pisses me off even more.
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Post#54 » by Marcus50 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:17 pm

On Presti's to do list:
1. Sign a better coach than Scott Brooks - Easier said than done.
2. Resign Kanter - interesting issue. Kanter is a hard one to read. I suspect he would love to play at OKC but we will see where it ends up.
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Post#55 » by bondom34 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:22 pm

Marcus50 wrote:On Presti's to do list:
1. Sign a better coach than Scott Brooks - Easier said than done.
2. Resign Kanter - interesting issue. Kanter is a hard one to read. I suspect he would love to play at OKC but we will see where it ends up.

Random, but I'm assuming this is the same Marcus from Welcome to Loud City? Never really thought of it til now! :lol:
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Post#56 » by Marcus50 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:45 pm

Its true. I like this site. far less trolling and a bit more relaxed. Ive read DT also but seems to be a lot of trolling goes on. Perhaps im being unfair
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Post#57 » by bondom34 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:49 pm

Marcus50 wrote:Its true. I like this site. far less trolling and a bit more relaxed. Ive read DT also but seems to be a lot of trolling goes on. Perhaps im being unfair

I'm not a big DT fan, and used to like WTLC more, but now they get higher traffic and I like it less than I used to. Here we've gotten more traffic, but everyone gets along well.
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Post#58 » by Marcus50 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:18 pm

My Hopes for next season
1. A fit KD, he deserves a break after what he has had to go through this year and if he is fit I imagine he will be fizzing, having some points to prove.
2. Russ keeps bringing it. With the team healthy again who knows what he can produce with a supporting cast of this quality.
3. Serge - Back and fully fit Serge is going to plug a few holes in the defense. He was a mixed bag earlier in the season and was not at his best. LMA and Tim Duncan got the better of him but second half before the injury old serge reemerged and was great.
4. Robes - Mixed year for the second year - His defense is great but his lack of offense was exp[osed when our shooters like KD russ and Serge fell over during the year. New coach may have a different view and see Robes as a defensive role player rather than a starter.
5. Kanter - Just love what he brings to the offensive end, scared of what he doesn't bring to the defense. Having Adams provides and insurance policy for the coaches in that if Kanter is being torched you put in Adams to plug the gap but hopefully with a full pre season Kanter will be more productive defensively. i have little doubt he gets re signed by presti
6. DJ - Got better as he got some comfort with the TEam. He is experienced if a little undersized. Looking for a better connection with his second unit players which was sort of developing but not quite there.
7. AMO - A slight improvement in his defense and he is a starting 2 for OKC. Just love having a guy who drains 3's
8. Adams - He seemed to lose some confidence when he came back from Injury as Kanter had taken his starting 5 spot clearly the attempt to sign Lopez as well was a signal. On the comeback from his hand injury Adams was forced to defend at the 4 where he is not that effective and Kanter was taking the Center spot on offense leaving Adams a bit lost. Next year looking for improved Handling and free throws but can see his minutes being cut back quite a lot from this year. Perhaps 15 - 18 mpg as backup to Kanter. If Kanter works out well as I expect him to not sure what the future is at OKC for Adams.
9. Singler - started off terribly but as he got comfortable could see his value. I pick that he is resigned as a cheap backup 3.
10 Waiters - No more step back contested 2s and I could warm to him. We live in hope.
11. Nick - Nick the mentor - had a good last part of the eyar where is defensive value came to the fore. I suspect he loses some minutes to Mitch next season.
12. Mitch - Better defense. Mitch just needs to slow down a fraction and get better control and he is going to be a really good player for OKC. Love having a leftie option
13. Heustis - Dont know much about him. A bit of another Robes it seems
14 Lambo - I really like Lamb and he can score a lot and quickly but his defense is meh. i expect he will be trtaded at the draft
15. PJ3 - wont be here
16 - Novak - Wont be here

As for a coach - Im a bit skeptical that a college coach can come in and win a championship in year 1. But who knows. Looks like Donavan is the front runner and we shall see I guess
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Post#59 » by KD35Brah » Wed May 6, 2015 4:54 am

Westbrook will represent the Thunder at the lottery.
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Post#60 » by KD35Brah » Wed May 6, 2015 5:14 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry/status/595782215142866945[/tweet]

The arrival of Billy Donovan was just the start of what is sure to be a busy off-season for the Thunder.

Over the next several weeks and months, the team must fill out Donovan's staff, prepare for the NBA Draft, hit the summer league circuit and make critical decisions on multiple players in free agency.

Thunder general manager Sam Presti discussed a few of those topics and more in an emailed Q&A with The Oklahoman.

Q: How do you expect the team to look different under Billy Donovan?
A: His system will take shape over time and throughout the course of next season. However, his teams have generally demonstrated the qualities found in high performance groups in any sport over a sustained period of time. Attributes such preparation, precision, connectedness, efficiency and resiliency are aspects that most teams, along with the Thunder, strive for every season.

The team was a taxpayer for the first time this season. Why was the decision made to go into the tax this year, and is the organization committed to constructing the best roster possible if it means continuing to be a taxpayer?
Our decision to enter the tax this season is due in part to a few independent variables that came together at a time when we had the flexibility to stay opportunistic. Those variables include opportunities to overcome the minimal tools at your disposal to add to a current core within the new system, the influx of new TV money set to hit that system and our strategic commitment to be able to sustain a championship level team throughout the prime years of our core players, which all converged to allow us to capitalize on the short term aspect of a long range plan.

What makes you confident the team can re-sign Enes Kanter this summer, and what did you see in Kyle Singler that makes you interested in bringing him back?
Both players stand to be restricted free agents in their early-to-mid 20's, and this, in combination with the pending TV money hitting the system in the future made it possible for us to pursue both aggressively in trade while still maintaining confidence that we could continue to build a team around our core in the coming years. Enes is someone we are committed to seeing in a Thunder uniform moving forward. With regards to Singler, finding a player in free agency that can shoot close to 40% from the three point line over the course of a season, embrace various roles, and stand as one of your more fundamental players at 6-9 is unlikely when over the cap and tax. Therefore, we are hopeful we will be able to keep working with him in the future.

There was a report that management consulted with Kevin Durant on the hiring of coach Donovan but not with Russell Westbrook and Westbrook is now upset with the organization because of it. Is there any truth to that report, and have you spoken to Westbrook since Donovan was hired to get a sense of what he's feeling?
As I have stated before, I do not feel it is in the best interest of the guys, or team collectively, if we were to poll our players in regards to specific personnel or staff decisions. However, we have spent a significant amount of time over the last seven-plus seasons discussing, observing and defining our culture with our players, which we feel is important given their role in building the identity for the Thunder. One aspect of this recent process was to have specific conversations with several core members of the program, including Kevin and Russell, regarding important qualities that should be considered in looking for our next head coach. Fortunately, our continuity and communication over the years in combination with our more recent discussions gave us an understanding that there is an alignment with regards to the qualities that we felt were important to our progression and evolution. Multiple people within the organization have been in contact with Russ and he will be in town later this week to meet with the staff.

How important is this year's draft pick to the team given how much higher it is than anticipated, and what position or type of player do you feel is the biggest need? Also, who will represent the organization at the NBA Draft Lottery?
Every draft pick is viewed as an opportunity, or an option of sorts for the club. Will Dawkins and our amateur scouting department have done a great job this year of planning for various scenarios within the draft. It is up to us to sort through ways that we might be able to use the draft pick to generate the most value for the organization. This could mean picking the best available player, looking to trade the pick, or any other myriad of concepts that we are exploring each day. Russell Westbrook will be representing the organization at the Lottery, and I told him the other day that if people watching at home do not have to adjust the brightness on their television screen based on what he is wearing, I will be really surprised. That or something sans sleeves.

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