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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#41 » by sushibear » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:58 am

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Too lazy to watch it on blu-ray/cable but willing to make the effort to go out and see Episode 8?

STILL, you're asking us if you would be confused watching episode 8 when no one here knows what it is. LOL


Yep. Just randomly saw a video about it on youtube and I was like oh sheit a new star wars movie coming out? I havent got the chance to see the last one yet.

Bro you sound upset? Did I say something that offended you? Was it the britney spears remark?


Why woukd i be mad at something like that? I picked it.

Sorry, just thought it was a really stupid question lol


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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#42 » by BKAY » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:13 am

For the title. As far as I understand it, all the Jedi and Jedi younglings were slaughtered by Kylo Ren and co.
Luke Skywalker is still alive making him the last Jedi.
Now you have Rey, who was/is either:
A. spared by Kylo Ren and co. at the Jedi slaughter for one reason or another and had some memory wipe mind tricks
B. Daughter of Luke Skywalker
C.Both
She is definitely "force-sensitive". Even if none of the above are true, the next 2 movies will be about Rey and Skywalker creating a new generation of Jedis.

My guess for the plot of the next 2 movies is that Rey and Luke meeting up + Luke training Rey to be a Jedi creates some awakening in the force (back to VII:The Force Awakens). It attracts the bad guys Kylo and Co. but probably also awakens the force in a couple other heroes that emerge in the next 2 movies. In a perfect world, I want to say that possibly... Rey/Skywalker/??? eliminate the dark side and this is the final trilogy in the SW series(back to VIII:The Last Jedi ,singular?plural?). buttt its a cash cow and I doubt it.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#43 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:44 am

My thoughts for the plot on why its called the Last Jedi, is because Rey is trained in the force with Luke, The movie centers alot around Luke,A bunch of stuff is revealed, but I think Rey runs away from the responsibility of being a Jedi. She is still a wild card. Luke Dies in the end of the movie "Last Jedi" , And Rey Assumes some big responsibility in Episode 9 (Just Like Luke did in return of the Jedi :nonono: ) and uses the force etc. If they are calling this "the Last Jedi". They may be truly making the Jedi relics in the universe. In the EU the Jedi were reborn by Luke. It could be that they maybe doing the exact opposite and that what we know as "Jedi" may die with Luke Skywalker. They may end the Sith as well in the last movie.

I was nervous when Disney got ahold of SW, but figured they had the money to make it better...now they looking suspect especially after Force Awakens...and them being scared to make Rogue one darker. Naming something "the Last Jedi" in episode 2 of a so called trilogy spells something to me more than Luke being technically the "Last Jedi" . They may use the cash cow SW brand, but only using "Jedi" in all back stories like rogue one etc. Its why they are being labeled "A Star Wars Story".All the stories in the future prob will be before these "final" events that unfold in the last two movies of the trilogy. Since they are 3 seperate trilogies, I doubt they go and make 12 of them. 9 seems a better number. These last three stories are told because people want to know what happened after ROTJ. These are prob the final events of the "overall" tale. I doubt they go to far into the future of the tale we already kinda far now. Most of the beloved characters will be dead, and whats the point. I don't think people will connect to all the new characters to propel another trilogy, and its makes no sense to continue this arc at least in the movie form. The more that I type, the more I think it make sense to do it this way, even thoe I still don't trust them to do it right if this is the plan.


We will have to wait and see till mor info comes out.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#44 » by MrProb » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:09 am

Milk as much $ as you would, Disney. As long as you make a great movie I'll forgive you.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#45 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:08 am

I don't see how people think Rey's a skywalker given:
1. Her accent.
2. The fact that the first movie never set up Luke having a kid
3. The fact that it would be so obvious that there would be no reason for bringing that secret over to the second film if she was.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#46 » by Dr. Detfink » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:10 am

Gawd, I hope Rey is NOT Luke's kid. We already went through 6 films centered around Skywalker BAD Parenting.

I want something a little fresh that changes the focus and creates a new lineage.

Also as Rogue One demonstrated, you can do an epic space battle without destroying a giant death ball.

Force Awakens climax battle was weak sauce ending with 15 X-wings blowing up a planet sized Death Star.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#47 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:10 pm

the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine.

Oscirus wrote:I don't see how people think Rey's a skywalker given:
1. Her accent.
2. The fact that the first movie never set up Luke having a kid
3. The fact that it would be so obvious that there would be no reason for bringing that secret over to the second film if she was.


1.what? :lol: c'mon. you know accents aren't inherited, bro.
2. well, luke was in the film for what, 2 minutes? also, it's somewhat implied. the whole, "That lightsaber was Luke's, and his father's before him, and now, it calls to you."
3. i mean, if it were that obvious then your second point is kinda redundant, isn't it?
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#48 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:16 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:Gawd, I hope Rey is NOT Luke's kid. We already went through 6 films centered around Skywalker BAD Parenting.

I want something a little fresh that changes the focus and creates a new lineage.

Also as Rogue One demonstrated, you can do an epic space battle without destroying a giant death ball.

Force Awakens climax battle was weak sauce ending with 15 X-wings blowing up a planet sized Death Star.

the main saga is about the skywalkers. as pedantic as it is, the last trilogy was going to be centered around darth vader's grandchildren.

initially i had hoped that finn was luke's kid ( he kinda luke's like a black version of ben skywalker) but that's probably out of the question at this point.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#49 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:38 pm

WOW.

After reading MArty Mc Fly comments which I dont agree with Luke and the title. I googled Luke Skywalker to see whats recent on the movie since I have yet to look up anything since seeing the title here, and I found this Article on movieplot.com which I would think is a popular website.

It basically states the SAME thing I said. I swear I did not read this before I wrote mines :lol: . To me this makes the most sense out of all the theroies. Luke dies and will be the last. In my humble opinion I think my theroy along with those who share the same kind of thinking are correct. To me it makes the most sense with the title and that I dont see a large future for this arc.


Its to obvious calling it the "the Last Jedi" becaue Luke technically is. Its something deeper that has two means that will end up meaning the same thing. He will be the last on both accounts.





'The Last Jedi': Title For 'Star Wars 8' Implies Rey Won't Follow In Luke Skywalker's Footsteps


The Last Of His Kind


While obviously this title could refer to any number of people — Rey, Finn, and even Kanan and Ezra from the animated Star Wars: Rebels are worthy contenders — the most likely candidate for being the last Jedi is Luke Skywalker. And that's because he was already called "the last Jedi" in the opening crawl for Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens.

Of course, the dubbing of Luke as "the last Jedi" occurred before Rey's Force awakened and she sought out Luke to train her. In this way, "the last Jedi" could indeed be Rey, as she learns the ways of the Force and continues Luke's mission in the Light. If Rey is "the last", that would imply that Luke dies during the course of the sequel trilogy — and probably in Star Wars 8, as this is the movie's title.

But there's something that makes me think Luke is the last — and that Rey will reject the Jedi teachings, redefining the boundaries between Light and Dark. For one thing, Daisy Ridley already hinted that this was what the sequel trilogy was about, when she was interviewed at the MTV Movie Awards back in April 2016.


Rey Rejects Luke's Training

And wouldn't this be more interesting? Don't get me wrong, the Jedi are a crucial part of the #StarWars Saga, and Luke's journey in the original trilogy was what made the movies stand out as a titan of scifi, bringing a sense of mythology and magic to an otherwise science-based genre. But now it may be time to move beyond this simple black-and-white idea of the Force — and what better way to do that but to have Rey strike out into a bold new philosophy?

After all, the biggest complaint against The Force Awakens was that it was a rehash of what came before. It would be pretty awesome for The Last Jedi to subvert this, reinventing the idea of what defines a Jedi — and why they're far from perfect.


So here's the theory: Rey does not become a Jedi. This makes a lot of sense for her character's journey, stemming from hints in The Force Awakens. Growing up alone and abandoned, Rey nonetheless clung to the idea that her family would return for her — a belief she was forced to give up in #StarWars7, as this was holding her back from realizing her destiny.

But her journey does not end when she offers Luke his lightsaber, atop his rocky island on the planet of Ahch-To. In many ways, this is Rey's beginning, and though Luke has much to teach her, she must find her own way in the Force. And it seems highly likely that Rey won't appreciate the more restrictive parts of the Jedi teachings — no personal attachments, no emotions of any kind, etc.

Having said that, we still don't know if Luke's version of the Jedi Order will follow the old Code. He certainly descried the ancient ways in the Expanded Universe — but seeing as this continuation of the Saga was declared non-canon by Disney, anything is possible, and Luke may have become just as much a stick-in-the-mud as Yoda was in Empire Strikes Back.

Personally, I'm hoping that Rey does indeed reject the whole idea of Light vs Dark, Jedi vs Sith (or Knights of Ren). These ideas are a little simplistic and outdated, and it would be fantastic to see Rey redefine what it means to be a Force user. Interestingly, Rogue One already introduced an alternate way of following the Force — Chirrut Imwe and Baze Melbus were Guardians of the Whills, a philosophical order that took a much more ambiguous view of what the Force was. It's definitely possible that Star Wars: The Last Jedi will continue this idea, as Rey seeks another path within the Force.

Suffice it to say that there are far more interesting story possibilities within the concept of the Force, and it would be fantastic to see Rey create a new path for herself.

Or maybe the plural of Jedi is Jedi and "the last Jedi" is actually both Rey and Luke. We'll just have to wait and see!




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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#50 » by frogfood » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:16 pm

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Yep. Just randomly saw a video about it on youtube and I was like oh sheit a new star wars movie coming out? I havent got the chance to see the last one yet.

Bro you sound upset? Did I say something that offended you? Was it the britney spears remark?


Why woukd i be mad at something like that? I picked it.

Sorry, just thought it was a really stupid question lol


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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#51 » by swisscheeseD » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:27 pm

Luke needs the Hollywood Hogan heel turn and follow in his father's footsteps.

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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#52 » by j4remi » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:54 pm

The first one hit all my nostalgia buttons, this one will have to have more up its sleeve. I liked Rogue One as a stand alone action movie too. But in retrospect neither of them are movies that hit me with the "WOW" factor. They fall in the "could be a lot worse but also could be plenty better" zone. A Luke focused movie will be interesting if they execute it right, that character felt vanilla as hell in the originals (nobody's favorite character was Luke); but after the events at the conclusion and the build up to him in this trilogy so far...maybe they can do something really strong with him.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#53 » by FlashFlood » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:18 pm

Guys they leaked the first 25 minutes of the new Star Wars movie. Check it out:
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#54 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:21 pm

Marty McFly wrote:the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine.

Oscirus wrote:I don't see how people think Rey's a skywalker given:
1. Her accent.
2. The fact that the first movie never set up Luke having a kid
3. The fact that it would be so obvious that there would be no reason for bringing that secret over to the second film if she was.


1.what? :lol: c'mon. you know accents aren't inherited, bro.
2. well, luke was in the film for what, 2 minutes? also, it's somewhat implied. the whole, "That lightsaber was Luke's, and his father's before him, and now, it calls to you."
3. i mean, if it were that obvious then your second point is kinda redundant, isn't it?


1.You don't think accents are important in this universe? If that's the case, then why have Boyega speak in an american accent?
2.Luke was talked about all throughout the film. Yet there wasn't one mention of his having a kid.
3. Not at all, 2 has to do with the setup and this one has to do with it being obvious due to this being a series centered around the skywalkers.
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Post#55 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:26 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:WOW.

After reading MArty Mc Fly comments which I dont agree with Luke and the title. I googled Luke Skywalker to see whats recent on the movie since I have yet to look up anything since seeing the title here, and I found this Article on movieplot.com which I would think is a popular website.

It basically states the SAME thing I said. I swear I did not read this before I wrote mines :lol: . To me this makes the most sense out of all the theroies. Luke dies and will be the last. In my humble opinion I think my theroy along with those who share the same kind of thinking are correct. To me it makes the most sense with the title and that I dont see a large future for this arc.


Its to obvious calling it the "the Last Jedi" becaue Luke technically is. Its something deeper that has two means that will end up meaning the same thing. He will be the last on both accounts.


you don't agree, but you think it has two meanings, one of which "luke technically is". what? :lol: either you half agree or you don't agree with at all.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#56 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:27 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:WOW.

After reading MArty Mc Fly comments which I dont agree with Luke and the title. I googled Luke Skywalker to see whats recent on the movie since I have yet to look up anything since seeing the title here, and I found this Article on movieplot.com which I would think is a popular website.

It basically states the SAME thing I said. I swear I did not read this before I wrote mines :lol: . To me this makes the most sense out of all the theroies. Luke dies and will be the last. In my humble opinion I think my theroy along with those who share the same kind of thinking are correct. To me it makes the most sense with the title and that I dont see a large future for this arc.


Its to obvious calling it the "the Last Jedi" becaue Luke technically is. Its something deeper that has two means that will end up meaning the same thing. He will be the last on both accounts.


you don't agree, but you think it has two meanings, one of which you should "luke technically is" what? :lol: either you half agree or you don't agree with at all.



You said you dont think Luke dies right? that he its just being called that as nod to luke and nothing more. I am saying there a "more" so thats where we disagree at.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#57 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:28 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:WOW.

After reading MArty Mc Fly comments which I dont agree with Luke and the title. I googled Luke Skywalker to see whats recent on the movie since I have yet to look up anything since seeing the title here, and I found this Article on movieplot.com which I would think is a popular website.

It basically states the SAME thing I said. I swear I did not read this before I wrote mines :lol: . To me this makes the most sense out of all the theroies. Luke dies and will be the last. In my humble opinion I think my theroy along with those who share the same kind of thinking are correct. To me it makes the most sense with the title and that I dont see a large future for this arc.


Its to obvious calling it the "the Last Jedi" becaue Luke technically is. Its something deeper that has two means that will end up meaning the same thing. He will be the last on both accounts.


you don't agree, but you think it has two meanings, one of which you should "luke technically is" what? :lol: either you half agree or you don't agree with at all.



You said you dont think Luke dies right? that he its just being called that as nod to luke and nothing more. I am saying there a "more" so thats where we disagree at.

where? i don't know if he's going to die. he may or may not. carrie's death might change where they want to go with that.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#58 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:31 pm

"the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine."


maybe i am reading you wrong here but i read it as its called the Last Jedi only cause Luke is, and that its as far as it goes. Not much more to it.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#59 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:33 pm

Oscirus wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine.

Oscirus wrote:I don't see how people think Rey's a skywalker given:
1. Her accent.
2. The fact that the first movie never set up Luke having a kid
3. The fact that it would be so obvious that there would be no reason for bringing that secret over to the second film if she was.


1.what? :lol: c'mon. you know accents aren't inherited, bro.
2. well, luke was in the film for what, 2 minutes? also, it's somewhat implied. the whole, "That lightsaber was Luke's, and his father's before him, and now, it calls to you."
3. i mean, if it were that obvious then your second point is kinda redundant, isn't it?


1.You don't think accents are important in this universe? If that's the case, then why have Boyega speak in an american accent?
2.Luke was talked about all throughout the film. Yet there wasn't one mention of his having a kid.
3. Not at all, 2 has to do with the setup and this one has to do with it being obvious due to this being a series centered around the skywalkers.

1. it was a choice by boyega. it wasn't a choice daisy made.
2. the only reference to him were regarding the search for him. and the people who knew him were preoccupied with their pown personal issues.
3. there's been secrecy surrounding her family, and the hints that we have, point to luke. there's literally no reason for it to be a big deal if she's not a skywalker. no one is going to care if she's some mosture farmer's daughter who was just abandoned somewhere. beside's that, they're have been hints.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#60 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:35 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:"the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine."


maybe i am reading you wrong here but i read it as its called the Last Jedi only cause Luke is, and that its as far as it goes. Not much more to it.

as in, he's the last one standing. the same way yoda was the last surviving jedi before he trained luke.
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