FGA restricted all time fantasy draft meta thread. 2 MORE JUDGES NEEDED FOR PLAYOFFS

ardee · Post #41 » by **ardee** » Sat May 20, 2017 6:58 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:Sidenote, are there gonna be free throw restrictions too?

No, I don't think they had that on the last project, basing it off of that one.

So, are you in? If so, we have 16.

ardee · Post #42 » by **ardee** » Sat May 20, 2017 6:59 am

kayess wrote:Can I panel? Just need to vote a total of 15 times right?

Sure, won't be until after the draft though, haven't even thought about the panel.

Post #43 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Sat May 20, 2017 12:09 pm

How does this differ from the ones we do on the T&T board? Do you do playoffs or just rank the teams?

ardee · Post #44 » by **ardee** » Sat May 20, 2017 3:32 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:How does this differ from the ones we do on the T&T board? Do you do playoffs or just rank the teams?

Playoffs, with a panel of judges to decide.

Anyone else? We need one more guy.

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ardee · Post #45 » by **ardee** » Sat May 20, 2017 8:15 pm

Another bump.

eminence · Post #46 » by **eminence** » Sat May 20, 2017 8:18 pm

Was I down for joining? If not I can hop in. If I was, whoops.

Post #47 » by **Doctor MJ** » Sat May 20, 2017 8:23 pm

I'll play if you need more.

ardee · Post #48 » by **ardee** » Sat May 20, 2017 9:43 pm

Eminence, you were in. Doctor MJ, welcome aboard. It's at 16. Time for meta talk now

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Post #49 » by **penbeast0** » Sat May 20, 2017 10:05 pm

If you go with judges instead of participant voting, I'd be happy to judge.

BasketballFan7 · Post #50 » by **BasketballFan7** » Sat May 20, 2017 11:13 pm

I like judges better. I have done a draft before and was disappointed with the voting system. 06 Elton Brand was looked at like a scrub by some involved and that was irritating. With judges, it's also more likely to finish and not stop mid way by relying on seemingly endless poll creation / participation.

ronnymac2 · Post #51 » by **ronnymac2** » Sat May 20, 2017 11:32 pm

I'm down to judge.

Dr Spaceman · Post #52 » by **Dr Spaceman** » Sun May 21, 2017 6:39 am

ardee wrote:Eminence, you were in. Doctor MJ, welcome aboard. It's at 16. Time for meta talk now

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What are you thinking of setting as the FGA limit? Last time it was 85, which has been league average for a team over the last 5 years or so.

BasketballFan7 · Post #53 » by **BasketballFan7** » Sun May 21, 2017 10:17 am

Dr Spaceman wrote:
ardee wrote:Eminence, you were in. Doctor MJ, welcome aboard. It's at 16. Time for meta talk now

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What are you thinking of setting as the FGA limit? Last time it was 85, which has been league average for a team over the last 5 years or so.

Genuine question, does using the number from the past 5 years discourage taking players who played in eras with a higher pace or higher average MPG? A guy like Elgin, perhaps?

Additionally, I would tend to believe that a higher limit encourages more varied team building. With it being strict, certain players are borderline undraftable if they don't carry their weight in efficiency. Players such as Jermaine O'Neal, Allen Iverson, Elvin Hayes are devoid of value. Even a wonderful all-around player like Havlicek becomes difficult to really justify when one must dedicate 25% of their FGA towards him. It inflates the value of certain player archetypes (hyper-efficient scorers, 3&D players, low volume rim protectors) and deflates the value of others. I do believe a higher FGA limit would be beneficial for the sake of variety. If not that, perhaps a one-time mulligan round or something of that nature at the end of the draft.

Of course, I'm up for being corrected.

ardee · Post #54 » by **ardee** » Sun May 21, 2017 11:57 am

I'm not the God Emperor here, that's why we should have meta talk and come to a decision by committee. I was initially thinking of going with 85 FGA, but you raise a couple of decent points. The thing is I don't believe anyone would want AI or Hayes on their team regardless of what the FGA limit was. They are only useful as primary scorers, and given the fact people could draft Hakeem or Jordan instead, I can't see them going in those roles. I can't see anyone wanting Havlicek either. He's great, but just not the type of player to fit into these teams.

I am leaning towards 85 at this point but we should decide this democratically.

Input from the judges is welcome too.

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lorak · Post #55 » by **lorak** » Sun May 21, 2017 12:30 pm

I think the lower FGA limit, the more interesting and balanced teams we would have (because less stars would be allowed).

Anyway, the lowest LA FGA ever was 75.4, the highest 109.4 and median for all season is 88.2, while average 89.0. But for "3p era" its 82.6 and 83.9 (last 5 seasons 83.6 and 83.7).

BasketballFan7 · Post #56 » by **BasketballFan7** » Sun May 21, 2017 12:35 pm

ardee wrote:I'm not the God Emperor here, that's why we should have meta talk and come to a decision by committee. I was initially thinking of going with 85 FGA, but you raise a couple of decent points. The thing is I don't believe anyone would want AI or Hayes on their team regardless of what the FGA limit was. They are only useful as primary scorers, and given the fact people could draft Hakeem or Jordan instead, I can't see them going in those roles. I can't see anyone wanting Havlicek either. He's great, but just not the type of player to fit into these teams.

I am leaning towards 85 at this point but we should decide this democratically.

Input from the judges is welcome too.

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I think Hayes would be a negative, and potentially Iverson as well, but it has more to do with their personalities than their skillets. Iverson fits well as a sixth man, and Hayes was by all accounts a great defender and rebounder. They can contribute, but not at their FGA cost.

70sFan · Post #57 » by **70sFan** » Sun May 21, 2017 12:46 pm

Are we allowed to draft players only from NBA or also ABA counts? Also, can we draft players from pre-shotclock era?

ardee · Post #58 » by **ardee** » Sun May 21, 2017 12:54 pm

70sFan wrote:Are we allowed to draft players only from NBA or also ABA counts? Also, can we draft players from pre-shotclock era?

Personally speaking I find it hard to evaluate ABA players. We should leave that to the judges. As for pre-shotclock, I mean I imagine you'd be welcome to, but do you see anyone on there who could be a difference maker?

wojoaderge · Post #59 » by **wojoaderge** » Sun May 21, 2017 12:59 pm

70sFan wrote:Are we allowed to draft players only from NBA or also ABA counts? Also, can we draft players from pre-shotclock era?

You're headed for disappointment

ardee · Post #60 » by **ardee** » Sun May 21, 2017 1:02 pm

wojoaderge wrote:
70sFan wrote:Are we allowed to draft players only from NBA or also ABA counts? Also, can we draft players from pre-shotclock era?

You're headed for disappointment

What do you mean?