official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

[NBA Fan 1234]

You know who I want tho?
Bruno Caboclo. I think he's primed for a breakout.

What is this based on...? He's done absolutely nothing since entering the league...in either the D-League OR in the NBA.

He had a D-League Finals game for the ages for one.
And he's freakishly long with a good J.

Reminds me of Demarr Johnson in his Bearcat days before the accident.

I dunno man, we need to unearth a wing.
We are all so fixated on PG and rightfully so but we need that 6'7'-6'9" wing with star upside. I think the top three wings (if you count Isaac there even though he's more of a four man) could be special. But chances are we won't get any of them. We need to really find a guy.

D-League. He also played like **** the entire year. Yeah, it's awesome he stepped up when it counted, but he was a non-factor year round. His jumper isn't that good, either - he's SUPER streaky and is a spot up or pump fake, one dribble guy...that's it. Star upside? He'd be lucky to be a consistent role player.

We absolutely need to find a 3/D guy, but I don't think he's it. Aside from Isaac being a 4, which is a point I've beaten to death in the last 15 draft threads , I think there are some guys who can be serviceable wings in this draft. Projected 10 and down you've got OG (injured), Jackson (reminds me of a big Rip Hamilton the way he moves without ball, mid range guy with solid 3 range, and a two way player), Kennard (Manu-esque), Semi Ojeyle (Crowder-esque), Hart (BIG fan), Dozier / Robinson can be 3/D guys, Thornwell (defends, plays with heart, and a good offensive game), and LJ Peak (who reminds me of this year's Tony Snell) can all be rotation guys.

I don't think anyone outside of the top picks have star upside, but I'd take any of those guys easily (with the exception of Robinson, I think). We don't need to hit on a wing this year when Doncic, Porter, and others are in next year's draft. We just need to hit on whoever we hit and start building an actual team. I'm being patient with building the team (not Phil) because I know we suck now and will continue sucking for at least another year or two (thanks Phil). We've just gotta ace the picks, find rotation guys later in first / in second round, and we'll be setting the cornerstones for years to come.

[NYF13]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc8d4b96

[JBreezeNY]

Bruno still 2 years years away from being 2 years away.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

What is this based on...? He's done absolutely nothing since entering the league...in either the D-League OR in the NBA.

He had a D-League Finals game for the ages for one.
And he's freakishly long with a good J.

Reminds me of Demarr Johnson in his Bearcat days before the accident.

I dunno man, we need to unearth a wing.
We are all so fixated on PG and rightfully so but we need that 6'7'-6'9" wing with star upside. I think the top three wings (if you count Isaac there even though he's more of a four man) could be special. But chances are we won't get any of them. We need to really find a guy.

D-League. He also played like **** the entire year. Yeah, it's awesome he stepped up when it counted, but he was a non-factor year round. His jumper isn't that good, either - he's SUPER streaky and is a spot up or pump fake, one dribble guy...that's it. Star upside? He'd be lucky to be a consistent role player.

We absolutely need to find a 3/D guy, but I don't think he's it. Aside from Isaac being a 4, which is a point I've beaten to death in the last 15 draft threads , I think there are some guys who can be serviceable wings in this draft. Projected 10 and down you've got OG (injured), Jackson (reminds me of a big Rip Hamilton the way he moves without ball, mid range guy with solid 3 range, and a two way player), Kennard (Manu-esque), Semi Ojeyle (Crowder-esque), Hart (BIG fan), Dozier / Robinson can be 3/D guys, Thornwell (defends, plays with heart, and a good offensive game), and LJ Peak (who reminds me of this year's Tony Snell) can all be rotation guys.

I don't think anyone outside of the top picks have star upside, but I'd take any of those guys easily (with the exception of Robinson, I think). We don't need to hit on a wing this year when Doncic, Porter, and others are in next year's draft. We just need to hit on whoever we hit and start building an actual team. I'm being patient with building the team (not Phil) because I know we suck now and will continue sucking for at least another year or two (thanks Phil). We've just gotta ace the picks, find rotation guys later in first / in second round, and we'll be setting the cornerstones for years to come.

Ok, ok. The thing is I'm feening for a Dale Davis/JONeal type deal for us. So maybe I'm reaching on the youngster.
I like those names above. I might be one of the only people on this forum not high on Justin Jackson. But I like the rest of those names.

[NoLayupRule]

I can't believe people are pretending that melo might go to SA

Just stop

It's LA, Clev, or in a crazy seitcharoo Wash, Boston or Houston

He's only accepting a trade to a contender
And to be honest that's only 5-6 teams

SA is clearly one of them but he totally doesn't fit their identity or roster

Unless they want to play LA at center which only makes his softness inside worse

No
SA is not an option
Because SA isn't interested

For that matter they wouldn't be into George or Haywood any number of good players

He ain't going to Houston.

not the point at all

[Dkillanyk4lyf]

I can't believe people are pretending that melo might go to SA

Just stop

It's LA, Clev, or in a crazy seitcharoo Wash, Boston or Houston

He's only accepting a trade to a contender
And to be honest that's only 5-6 teams

SA is clearly one of them but he totally doesn't fit their identity or roster

Unless they want to play LA at center which only makes his softness inside worse

No
SA is not an option
Because SA isn't interested

For that matter they wouldn't be into George or Haywood any number of good players

He ain't going to Houston.

not the point at all

Honestly theirs not a lot of teams that melo fits with.

His style of play just doesn't fit the modern nba.

[Rotten Apple]

He ain't going to Houston.

not the point at all

Honestly theirs not a lot of teams that melo fits with.

His style of play just doesn't fit the modern nba.

How exactly doesnt his game fit?

He can do everything there is on offense, it's all about coaching.

Let me guess, iso iso chuck chuck?

[Kinglee]

not the point at all

Honestly theirs not a lot of teams that melo fits with.

His style of play just doesn't fit the modern nba.

How exactly doesnt his game fit?

He can do everything there is on offense, it's all about coaching.

Let me guess, iso iso chuck chuck?

People took JR comment, misinterpreted the **** even though the clarification was in the next paragraph, and ran with it.

Only team that isn't ISO heavy is the Warriors. Every team needs a player that can go Iso and score. Ball movement is irrelevant if you don't make the shot. People point to assist as "ball movement". An assist only count if the player makes the shot.

Common sense goes out the window when discussing basketball on this board.

[Kinglee]

I don't know when this idea that Iso basketball is bad. Of course you want the easy basket to a cutting player, but if the player doesn't cut then what? One on one is a part of basketball. Period.

[Rotten Apple]

Honestly theirs not a lot of teams that melo fits with.

His style of play just doesn't fit the modern nba.

How exactly doesnt his game fit?

He can do everything there is on offense, it's all about coaching.

Let me guess, iso iso chuck chuck?

People took JR comment, misinterpreted the **** even though the clarification was in the next paragraph, and ran with it.

Only team that isn't ISO heavy is the Warriors. Every team needs a player that can go Iso and score. Ball movement is irrelevant if you don't make the shot. People point to assist as "ball movement". An assist only count if the player makes the shot.

Common sense goes out the window when discussing basketball on this board.

Yeah I dont even get it sometimes and I should see why these dudes say what they say.

They're basically saying Melo shouldn't even be in the NBA.

[Rotten Apple]

I don't know when this idea that Iso basketball is bad. Of course you want the easy basket to a cutting player, but if the player doesn't cut then what? One on one is a part of basketball. Period.

Hell the NBA Finals last year was nothing but 1 on 1 the last 2 minutes of game 7, if the Warriors had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay or Harrison freaking Barnes they would have 2 rings right now.

Sometimes that isolation at the elbow is needed.

And its not like Melo is unable to play off the ball either.

[Bill Pidto]

I don't know when this idea that Iso basketball is bad. Of course you want the easy basket to a cutting player, but if the player doesn't cut then what? One on one is a part of basketball. Period.

Hell the NBA Finals last year was nothing but 1 on 1 the last 2 minutes of game 7, if the Warriors had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay or Harrison freaking Barnes they would have 2 rings right now.

Sometimes that isolation at the elbow is needed.

And its not like Melo is unable to play off the ball either.

Dude... if the Warriors had Melo instead of Klay, they wouldn't have made the finals last year.

Klay has been a perfect fit for that team and the way they play. One of, if not the best SG in the league for the last few years. Efficient, and he defends.

You really think if the Warriors had Melo to play more one-on-one basketball, they would have beat LeBron last year? Lmao

Some of you guys are really jumping through hoops here.

[Rotten Apple]

I don't know when this idea that Iso basketball is bad. Of course you want the easy basket to a cutting player, but if the player doesn't cut then what? One on one is a part of basketball. Period.

Hell the NBA Finals last year was nothing but 1 on 1 the last 2 minutes of game 7, if the Warriors had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay or Harrison freaking Barnes they would have 2 rings right now.

Sometimes that isolation at the elbow is needed.

And its not like Melo is unable to play off the ball either.

Dude... if the Warriors had Melo instead of Klay, they wouldn't have made the finals last year.

Klay has been a perfect fit for that team and the way they play. One of, if not the best SG in the league for the last few years. Efficient, and he defends.

You really think if the Warriors had Melo to play more one-on-one basketball, they would have beat LeBron last year? Lmao

Some of you guys are really jumping through hoops here.

I said if they had Melo to give it to instead of Klay or Barnes(2 dudes who aren't known for creating their own shot, especially as good as Melo) they probably beat Cleveland.

Curry couldn't get separation, Love stopped him. Melo would rise over anyone the Cavs put on him or blew by Love for a basket.

I never said they should replace Klay with Melo. Stop putting words in my mouth like you did with JR.

Your posts suck.

[Rotten Apple]

Reading comprehension is not some of your strongsuits.

[Bill Pidto]

You said if they had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay.

Either way, my posts are dope.

[whocares1]

I don't know when this idea that Iso basketball is bad. Of course you want the easy basket to a cutting player, but if the player doesn't cut then what? One on one is a part of basketball. Period.

Hell the NBA Finals last year was nothing but 1 on 1 the last 2 minutes of game 7, if the Warriors had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay or Harrison freaking Barnes they would have 2 rings right now.

Sometimes that isolation at the elbow is needed.

And its not like Melo is unable to play off the ball either.

If Harrison Barnes makes 25% of the completely wide open three point shots generated by ball movement, then there wouldn't have been a need for isolation in the last two minutes.

I don't think anybody is saying that isolation is bad or that isolation should never be run. All superstar players can isolate and all fans know this, but those players are more efficient and consistent than Melo is at this point in his career. 27 year old Melo isolating and drawing crowds of attention? Sure! iso is great, but when you have a crowd begging you to give up the ball at some point you're going to have to change your game a bit.

[Kinglee]

You said if they had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay.

Either way, my posts are dope.

[HarthorneWingo]

not the point at all

Honestly theirs not a lot of teams that melo fits with.

His style of play just doesn't fit the modern nba.

How exactly doesnt his game fit?

He can do everything there is on offense, it's all about coaching.

Let me guess, iso iso chuck chuck?

Then how come no team is banging down our door to get him?

[Rotten Apple]

I don't know when this idea that Iso basketball is bad. Of course you want the easy basket to a cutting player, but if the player doesn't cut then what? One on one is a part of basketball. Period.

Hell the NBA Finals last year was nothing but 1 on 1 the last 2 minutes of game 7, if the Warriors had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay or Harrison freaking Barnes they would have 2 rings right now.

Sometimes that isolation at the elbow is needed.

And its not like Melo is unable to play off the ball either.

If Harrison Barnes makes 25% of the completely wide open three point shots generated by ball movement, then there wouldn't have been a need for isolation in the last two minutes.

I don't think anybody is saying that isolation is bad or that isolation should never be run. All superstar players can isolate and all fans know this, but those players are more efficient and consistent than Melo is at this point in his career. 27 year old Melo isolating and drawing crowds of attention? Sure! iso is great, but when you have a crowd begging you to give up the ball at some point you're going to have to change your game a bit.

What if the crowd is chanting we want Melo?

[Rotten Apple]

You said if they had Melo to throw it to instead of Klay.

Either way, my posts are dope.

Smh you're slow af dude.