Rebuild reality and doin it right

[Spud2nique]

^Are we only interested in facts that paint us in a good light, now?

It's noteworthy that 4 of 5 teams with the most dead money on their rosters are 4 of the worst teams in the league.

Whether by design or not.

It's not noteworthy if it's by design.

Having dead money is a major indictment of a front office in a cap-driven environment. That list paints the picture that the teams with significant dead money are poorly run. Well, if it's being done as a strategy then that's not the case.

For the record, because I don't think I was clear, I had issue with the report itself. I had no issue with you for posting it. I actually came here to post it if it hadn't already been done.

Just wanted to make sure we're fighting about the right thing.

*ding, ding* Round 2 .....

I agree with this but I’m also immune to it. They always make us look bad. It does make it look like our front office look incompetent. We should repost this dumb article (no offense if a mod wrote it, I don’t wanna hurt any egos) when our cap situation is coming to fruition and are signing guys like Giannis and Ben Simmons as FA’s.

[kg01]

^Are we only interested in facts that paint us in a good light, now?

It's noteworthy that 4 of 5 teams with the most dead money on their rosters are 4 of the worst teams in the league.

Whether by design or not.

It's not noteworthy if it's by design.

Having dead money is a major indictment of a front office in a cap-driven environment. That list paints the picture that the teams with significant dead money are poorly run. Well, if it's being done as a strategy then that's not the case.

For the record, because I don't think I was clear, I had issue with the report itself. I had no issue with you for posting it. I actually came here to post it if it hadn't already been done.

Just wanted to make sure we're fighting about the right thing.

*ding, ding* Round 2 .....

I agree with this but I’m also immune to it. They always make us look bad. It does make it look like our front office look incompetent. We should repost this dumb article (no offense if a mod wrote it, I don’t wanna hurt any egos) when our cap situation is coming to fruition and are signing guys like Giannis and Ben Simmons as FA’s.

I typically just gloss over them as well but every once in a while you gotta let off some steam.

[jayu70]

This is where 'faith in the process' becomes necessary:

The Atlanta Hawks lead the NBA in dead cap space with $32 million (32 percent of total salary), which means salaries for players not on the roster.

Jamal Crawford represents $10.9 million of that amount following his release in July. Marco Belinelli, Ersan Ilyasova and Richard Jefferson are also included on the dead money.

The Chicago Bulls rank second at $26.3 million, followed by the Phoenix Suns at $18.6 million, Sacramento Kings at $18 million and Milwaukee Bucks at $16.1 million.Via Bobby Marks/ESPN

Wiretap

What's the point of this "report" other than to simply state a fact? It's prejudicial IMO. Folks read that, fail to understand it, and inaccurately paint the Hawks as poorly-run. To me, the only relevant team on that list is MIL considering they presumably have the roster they want going forward.

Aaaaahhh mush, the 'article has no context'....all dead money means is that it comes directly off the books, no cap holds involved etc.
If we hadn't bout out Craw, Illy and Beli there would be a cap holds for all players that counted against the capspace unless rights were renounced.
Not much of an article but a statement of fact.

[Jamaaliver]

I don't like this at all.

Answering Biggest 2018 NBA Draft Questions for Every Projected Lottery Team

Biggest 2018 NBA draft question for the Atlanta Hawks: Is it problematic to pair John Collins with a big man who plays poor defense?

Luka Doncic would fill a need for the Hawks, but he might not be there if they're picking at No. 3. Ayton and Bagley could be in the conversation as best-player-available options for Atlanta. But neither prospect looked good this season defensively.

The Hawks have to ask themselves whether pairing John Collins with a weak defensive center will be a problematic building strategy, even if Ayton and Bagley turn out to be exciting NBA scorers.

Jackson or Bamba make more sense in terms of fit. Both averaged at least three blocks per game and flashed enormous potential in rim protection with their mobility, length and instincts.

B/R's answer: Draft Doncic or Ayton if available, but take Jackson over Bagley because of Jackson's superior defense.

Bleacher Report

[jayu70]

Pick best available player. We aren't building around John Collins so that shouldn't be a deciding factor.

[Jamaaliver]

Pick best available player. We aren't building around John Collins so that shouldn't be a deciding factor.

Travis hear[s] you and supports this approach.

Read on Twitter

[Spud2nique]

Pick best available player. We aren't building around John Collins so that shouldn't be a deciding factor.

Travis hear you and supports this approach.

Read on Twitter

Ya Travis comes from the school of Nellie where he always selected the best player for the scrubs back in the day. One year in the 92 draft I believe he selected a fellow by the name of Latrell Sprewell from Alabama with the 24th (I think) pick.


Did the same with the UTEP 2 step in Timmy Hardaway in 1990.

BPA is the best approach.

[jayu70]

Pick best available player. We aren't building around John Collins so that shouldn't be a deciding factor.

Travis hear you and supports this approach.

Read on Twitter

Yep, I heard the interview.

[Jamaaliver]

Young Hawks confident they'll be more competitive next season

Taurean Prince is promising better results in the midst of the Hawks' rebuild

The first year of the rebuild is over. Rejoice.

The Atlanta Hawks (24-58) finished their worst season since 2004 when they only won 13 games.

As painful of a season as it may have been for the fans, it had its silver lining for head coach Mike Budenholzer and the team. Budenholzer said after the game he was proud of his team and their daily willingness to get better despite the circumstances.

Budenholzer sees the [76ers] as a blueprint towards success. "Obviously the whole league, including us, looks at them as someone who has a bright future. There’s a lot of lessons be be learned," he said.

Taurean Prince, who finished the last four games of the season averaging 25.6 points per game, is guaranteeing the team will already be on the upswing come next season. "I do know for a fact that next year’s team will compete. We’re going to come out to win every week no matter who’s out on the floor or what situation we may be in," Prince said.

There's something to be said for these guys sticking it out through a long, rough season and bonding while learning each other's game. There is a chemistry in the locker room that can't be ignored.

11 Alive

[Spud2nique]

Young Hawks confident they'll be more competitive next season

Taurean Prince is promising better results in the midst of the Hawks' rebuild

The first year of the rebuild is over. Rejoice.

The Atlanta Hawks (24-58) finished their worst season since 2004 when they only won 13 games.

As painful of a season as it may have been for the fans, it had its silver lining for head coach Mike Budenholzer and the team. Budenholzer said after the game he was proud of his team and their daily willingness to get better despite the circumstances.

Budenholzer sees the [76ers] as a blueprint towards success. "Obviously the whole league, including us, looks at them as someone who has a bright future. There’s a lot of lessons be be learned," he said.

Taurean Prince, who finished the last four games of the season averaging 25.6 points per game, is guaranteeing the team will already be on the upswing come next season. "I do know for a fact that next year’s team will compete. We’re going to come out to win every week no matter who’s out on the floor or what situation we may be in," Prince said.

There's something to be said for these guys sticking it out through a long, rough season and bonding while learning each other's game. There is a chemistry in the locker room that can't be ignored.

11 Alive

Prince is the man. Never trade him. Lol.

[Jamaaliver]

Prince is the man. Never trade him. Lol.

[Spud2nique]

Prince is the man. Never trade him. Lol.

I’ve said that from day 1.... you can check it here or you can check it in squawk under guest now apparently....

[kg01]

Prince is the man. Never trade him. Lol.

I wouldn't say "never" trade him but he certainly shouldn't be traded any time soon. I think, if we give up on him now, we'll be looking for a player like him in short order (so why trade him).

[jayu70]

Prince is the man. Never trade him. Lol.

I wouldn't say "never" trade him but he certainly shouldn't be traded any time soon. I think, if we give up on him now, we'll be looking for a player like him in short order (so why trade him).

Agreed. Not a lot of quality SF with his size, speed, athleticism, can shoot the 3 etc. SFs are in demand.

[Jamaaliver]

I wouldn't say "never" trade him but he certainly shouldn't be traded any time soon. I think, if we give up on him now, we'll be looking for a player like him in short order (so why trade him).

Agreed. Not a lot of quality SF with his size, speed, athleticism, can shoot the 3 etc. SFs are in demand.

2018 and 2019 Drafts are filled with younger, higher upside wings who offer these strengths.

Keep that in mind as we fill the roster with teenagers moving forward.

[kg01]

I wouldn't say "never" trade him but he certainly shouldn't be traded any time soon. I think, if we give up on him now, we'll be looking for a player like him in short order (so why trade him).

Agreed. Not a lot of quality SF with his size, speed, athleticism, can shoot the 3 etc. SFs are in demand.

2018 and 2019 Drafts are filled with younger, higher upside wings who offer these strengths.

Keep that in mind as we fill the roster with teenagers moving forward.

That's only true in theory.

There's absolutely no guarantee that the roster will be filled with teenagers either.

[jayu70]

Agreed. Not a lot of quality SF with his size, speed, athleticism, can shoot the 3 etc. SFs are in demand.

2018 and 2019 Drafts are filled with younger, higher upside wings who offer these strengths.

Keep that in mind as we fill the roster with teenagers moving forward.

That's only true in theory.

There's absolutely no guarantee that the roster will be filled with teenagers either.

Of the SFs that you trade TP to take higher than the Minny pick -
Mikal Bridges will be 22 when the season starts, Porter, 20 coming off back surgery, Miles Bridges 20, Knox 19.

[Spud2nique]

I wouldn't say "never" trade him but he certainly shouldn't be traded any time soon. I think, if we give up on him now, we'll be looking for a player like him in short order (so why trade him).

Agreed. Not a lot of quality SF with his size, speed, athleticism, can shoot the 3 etc. SFs are in demand.

2018 and 2019 Drafts are filled with younger, higher upside wings who offer these strengths.

Keep that in mind as we fill the roster with teenagers moving forward.

The only way I feel comfortable trading Prince is if we land Mikal.

[kg01]

Agreed. Not a lot of quality SF with his size, speed, athleticism, can shoot the 3 etc. SFs are in demand.

2018 and 2019 Drafts are filled with younger, higher upside wings who offer these strengths.

Keep that in mind as we fill the roster with teenagers moving forward.

The only way I feel comfortable trading Prince is if we land Mikal.

I don't feel confident he'll be as good/significantly better than Printz, honestly. And I thought that before I realized he was old as dirt (relatively speaking). He's basically like taking Printz again and just starting over.

[jayu70]

2018 and 2019 Drafts are filled with younger, higher upside wings who offer these strengths.

Keep that in mind as we fill the roster with teenagers moving forward.

The only way I feel comfortable trading Prince is if we land Mikal.

I don't feel confident he'll be as good/significantly better than Printz, honestly. And I thought that before I realized he was old as dirt (relatively speaking). He's basically like taking Printz again and just starting over.

Yep, 2 years in, Jam will want to move on from him as too old.