Conspiracy theory: LeBron's ancestry
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LivingLegend wrote:Here is a picture of the guy said to be LeBrons father when he was in High School--Roland Bivens who was arrested and is in prison. The word is that he changed his name to Anthony McClelland once he was charged with crimes he committed. However, reports say that Roland Bivens died in a driveby shooting in 1994 when LeBron was 8----but Anthony McClelland is in prison for theft. *Cue spooky music** He didnt actually die, he changed his name to avoid the police but was still caught.
Here is a picture of LeBrons fathers other child from a different women--LeBrons step brother. His name is Aaron McClelland-Gamble
I've always believed this one, look at that dude. That's his dad, It's the same face.
Since with this theory Nate Thurmond would be the maternal grandfather it's of course possible that both are true, however.

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LivingLegend wrote:ItsThatEasy wrote:
Good read, the last theory seems pretty plausible.
It's amazing we have no idea where arguably the great physical specimen of all time got his genetics from.
Well its apparent that he probably does have a step brother out there, I mean look at this. He even has the same body type.
Holy sh*t that last pic isn't LeBron?? Wow
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LivingLegend wrote:Here is a picture of the guy said to be LeBrons father when he was in High School--Roland Bivens who was arrested and is in prison. The word is that he changed his name to Anthony McClelland once he was charged with crimes he committed. However, reports say that Roland Bivens died in a driveby shooting in 1994 when LeBron was 8----but Anthony McClelland is in prison for theft. *Cue spooky music** He didnt actually die, he changed his name to avoid the police but was still caught.
Here is a picture of LeBrons fathers other child from a different women--LeBrons step brother. His name is Aaron McClelland-Gamble
the great portrait artist john singer sargent said painting a portrait is finding something wrong with the mouth
kd lang and clive owen

so it's all in the mouth. that's what you look for
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Nah, still a cupcakeJohnny Bball wrote:Thought it would be a given by now that Kevin Durant is Lebron's daddy.
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lambchop wrote:ChartFiction wrote:This is peak offseason content.
I remember last year there was a thread about which nba players would be good boyfriends for long term relationships
Who won? TT is obviously number 1 for short term/lust relationship
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LivingLegend wrote:My question is that if this were true, why is it being hidden. Whats the problem with Nate being LeBrons grandpa.
The whole thing about no male family members being in LeBrons life and that nobody knows who they even are is weird.
Either way---here is this
https://medium.com/the-foul-shot/the-mystery-behind-lebron-james-father-548186abed94
This is something I thought about as well.
Glorias mother died when she was 20 and I think it's quite plausible that she may have never passed on the information.
Gloria would have been conceived in 1967, not exactly peak basketball popularity especially in Ohio. Glorias mother may not have known who it was and it was in the 60s, even if she did know him it's difficult to know. As I said Glorias younger brothers look similar to each other but don't look like her much at all.
It may not be something they even know about or care about. Many families like to not revisit the murky past out of respect.
This could all be bias as well, as I say, only way to prove it now is to take DNA samples from LeBron, his mum and a Thurmond child.
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IMF wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Here is a picture of the guy said to be LeBrons father when he was in High School--Roland Bivens who was arrested and is in prison. The word is that he changed his name to Anthony McClelland once he was charged with crimes he committed. However, reports say that Roland Bivens died in a driveby shooting in 1994 when LeBron was 8----but Anthony McClelland is in prison for theft. *Cue spooky music** He didnt actually die, he changed his name to avoid the police but was still caught.
Here is a picture of LeBrons fathers other child from a different women--LeBrons step brother. His name is Aaron McClelland-Gamble
I've always believed this one, look at that dude. That's his dad, It's the same face.
Since with this theory Nate Thurmond would be the maternal grandfather it's of course possible that both are true, however.
Yeah this is legit his father, went to same high school as 16 year old Gloria, people said they dated around that time. There's minimal doubt.
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This thread is a lot more interesting than I expected
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I’ve been lurking for 6-7 long years waiting for the right moment to strike. I can imagine no better thread to pop my RealGM cherry in.
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Dupp wrote:lambchop wrote:ChartFiction wrote:This is peak offseason content.
I remember last year there was a thread about which nba players would be good boyfriends for long term relationships
Who won? TT is obviously number 1 for short term/lust relationship
Serge Ibaka was voted as the most desirable lover. Not only does he have a smoking hot body, but he has an accent and seems like a sweet guy. Definitely the strong but compassionate type.
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knuckles862 wrote:Michael Jordan wrote:They say Curry got his moms looks and his dad's shooting genes
But I did some digging and couldn't find conclusive DNA evidence that these two are actually father and son. That's when I realized that Curry was born in 1988; just around the time that Reggie Miller entered the NBA in '87. We know that Sonya Curry's type was shooters who were fresh out of college. Reggie presumably must have ran into her shortly before entering the league.
Dell Curry was a good shooter but he wasn't a great one like Reggie and Stephen. I think if you add up all the evidence you'll believe beyond a reasonable doubt that Reggie Miller is actually the father of Stephen Curry.
Reggie is a steph hater though lol
Exactly, because the mother of his child won't acknowledge him as the true father.
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zimpy27 wrote:There are plenty of interesting conspiracy theories in the NBA but one of them has caught my attention.
Where did LeBron's genes come from?
We all know James has hit the genetic lottery in terms of size, athleticism, intellect. He picked up the game of BBall late and looked like he was born to play it.
It's hard to imagine those genes haven't played the NBA game before.
There are videos on youtube that mention who his father is, a guy named Roland Bivens who changed his name to Anthony McClelland. And I think that all seems likely given the photos and location.
This thread is about the conspiracy that his father is Nate Thurmond.
The similarities come in that they are both two of the most physically gifted athletes in the NBA ever, both have the same hairline and are both from Akron, Ohio. The similarities are interesting but the hairline comments bugged me.
I do believe that LeBrons hairline would be the same as Nate's or very similar without modern cosmetic enhancements.
Truthfully, what bugged me about this theory was that baldness genes are largely inherited on the X chromosome and are therefore from the mothers side (the mothers father is the best indication).
I wondered, what if Nate Thurmond wasn't LeBron's father but was actually the father of his mother.... LeBrons grandfather.
I did some digging and 9 months prior to Gloria's birth aligns with the NBA offseason when a young Nate may have gone home to Akron to visit family.
They share similar face shapes, cheek-bones and around the eye area. If someone told you they were father and daughter you would see it.
It's only ever mentioned that LeBron had a grandmother named Freda James. No mention of a grandfather or whether James is her last name or a deceased husband.
Gloria has two brothers but she is older than both and looks quite different to them. It's possible they are from a different man with the "James " last name.
I guess what I'm thinking is that if you did want to make the case that Nate Thurmond is related to James then it makes much more sense that it's his grandfather, from a time/location perspective but also a genetic trait perspective.
Anyway, I thought this was novel. I've never seen anyone post about this in the light that Nate may be LeBron's grandfather. I just wanted to put it out there in case people were interested. It's unlikely this would ever come out or be proven, purely speculation with a ton of bias.
TL;DR
If you believe Nate Thurmond is related to LeBron then he's much more likely to be the father of Gloria James.
Kudos for the effort man. Pretty cool.
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infinite11285 wrote:Dupp wrote:lambchop wrote:
I remember last year there was a thread about which nba players would be good boyfriends for long term relationships
Who won? TT is obviously number 1 for short term/lust relationship
Serge Ibaka was voted as the most desirable lover. Not only does he have a smoking hot body, but he has an accent and seems like a sweet guy. Definitely the strong but compassionate type.
You gonna act like his bbc has nothing to do with it?
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Dupp wrote:infinite11285 wrote:Dupp wrote:
Who won? TT is obviously number 1 for short term/lust relationship
Serge Ibaka was voted as the most desirable lover. Not only does he have a smoking hot body, but he has an accent and seems like a sweet guy. Definitely the strong but compassionate type.
You gonna act like his bbc has nothing to do with it?
I'm no whore.
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zimpy27 wrote:IMF wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Here is a picture of the guy said to be LeBrons father when he was in High School--Roland Bivens who was arrested and is in prison. The word is that he changed his name to Anthony McClelland once he was charged with crimes he committed. However, reports say that Roland Bivens died in a driveby shooting in 1994 when LeBron was 8----but Anthony McClelland is in prison for theft. *Cue spooky music** He didnt actually die, he changed his name to avoid the police but was still caught.
Here is a picture of LeBrons fathers other child from a different women--LeBrons step brother. His name is Aaron McClelland-Gamble
I've always believed this one, look at that dude. That's his dad, It's the same face.
Since with this theory Nate Thurmond would be the maternal grandfather it's of course possible that both are true, however.
Yeah this is legit his father, went to same high school as 16 year old Gloria, people said they dated around that time. There's minimal doubt.
Did his step-brother hoop? Dude looks like a freak of nature, should have at least played varsity somewhere.
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From what i've heard the reason Lebron's so secretive on male family members is because his mother was known to be a sex worker at times of her life.
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I thought he was from planet Vegeta like all the other Saiyans.