James Harden looks out of shape

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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#41 » by BasketballFan7 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:38 am

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clyde21 wrote:That's kind of what he always looks like more or less. Just his body type.


This is an excuse. Him being in shape isn't related to his body type. No, players like Harden and Melo aren't going to be shredded, and that's due to body type, but his body fat percentage/being in shape are separate issues.


So you can tell if hes in shape or not just by looking at the picture? This is literally how he always looks without a shirt.


He's clearly out of shape. That's evident. You're not in basketball shape with 15-20 % body fat. Nor does he look like that all of the time.

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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#42 » by Teko » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:40 am

Interesting...

CP3 - Harden - Camelo, you can't get much chubbier (is this even a word?) than that!
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#43 » by Lalouie » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:55 am

uh, harden was out of shape even when he was IN shape
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#44 » by Hephaestus » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:35 am

That's what hanging out with Melo for a week does to your body.
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#45 » by LukasBMW » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:12 am

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LukasBMW wrote:Given the rumors he loves to party, it could be trouble....or he could just lose it all before the season starts. You'd be surprised at how quickly you can cut up with the right training program.

He also could be trying to bulk up. A calorie surplus + off season beer + creatine + weights but no cardio means an increase in water weight and flab. Stop the beer, stop the creatine, and get back to the regular season grind, and he'll have a 6 pack in no time. Bodybuilders are flabby in the off season. They have to add bad weight to "bulk." Then to "cut", they starve themselves to get ready for shows. Seriously starve themselves.


I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but I'll take the bait. Bulk phase doesn't mean stuffing your face with burgers and fries for 3 months and then hitting the treadmill. It just means you up your carbs (brown rice, quinoa, oatmeal, etc), increase healthy fats (almond butter, coconut oil, avocados, etc), more weightlifting, less cardio, but still an otherwise healthy and balanced diet high in protein. The idea is to bulk up on muscle, and you have to add a bit of fat in order to do that. Then when you "cut", your grown muscle is more visible.

What you see in this picture of Harden is not someone who is in a "bulk" phase. It's someone who has let himself go and is taking a break from a healthy lifestyle. He's about to turn 29 years old, he can probably still get away with it. But I can promise you that this seesaw will eventually shorten his career in the long run.


I was being serious, but your post is better. And some guys do "dirty bulk".
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#46 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:43 pm

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Normal for him. He's Baron Davis 2.0 where he seems to show up to camp chubby and by the start of the season he's in good shape. He likes to live it up in the offseason. My philosophy is... I'd prefer my players always be in shape year round, but as long as you're ready when it's go time, not much you can do.

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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#47 » by Plutonashfan » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:51 pm

Thundershock88 wrote:He'll be alright, but it's not good for longevity

Just like Melo.
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#48 » by yesh » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:00 pm

Depends what shape we're talking about; if it's round, then he's definitely in shape.
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#49 » by vxmike » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:08 pm

Thundershock88 wrote:He'll be alright, but it's not good for longevity


Who knows. Some guys train year round and get hurt all the time.

Maybe taking a few months off isn't a bad thing for some guys. An elite athlete can cut that amount of chub in a month.
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#50 » by Peja Stojakovic » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:10 pm

andre miller never touched a ball in the offseason and played himself into shape every training camp. he lasted decades
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#51 » by LuDux1 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:23 pm

Lalouie wrote:uh, harden was out of shape even when he was IN shape


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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#52 » by 2LeTTeRS » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:12 pm

He's what 10 (maybe 15 pounds) heavier than normal there? Definitely not a good look for the MVP (being shirtless obviously isn't helping) but shouldn't affect him much in the short term.
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#53 » by Tustari » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:17 pm

Look at how MJ looked in the off-season and his workout ethic during it. It’s night and day with some of these new schoolers. Is this how Harden plans on avenging his humiliation against the Warriors?
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#54 » by Illmatic12 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:25 pm

Tustari wrote:Look at how MJ looked in the off-season and his workout ethic during it. It’s night and day with some of these new schoolers. Is this how Harden plans on avenging his humiliation against the Warriors?

Actually players today are far more conditioned & fit than in MJs era.

In fact Jordan became famous for starting the trend of lifting weights, before him most NBA guys wouldn't even touch the weight room (except for big men like David Robinson.. for guards it was still unheard of at that time)

Lebron spends like $1 mil on his body every year.. and he doesn't stay up all night drinking+smoking like Jordan used to do, so I'd say he's far more conditioned than MJ.
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#55 » by queridiculo » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:26 pm

He's always looked that way..?
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#56 » by infinite11285 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:31 pm

Don't need to be in shape when nearly a third of accumulated career points come from the FT line. As long as the refs are in shape, James will be fine.
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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

Post#57 » by SichtingLives » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:35 pm

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Re: James Harden looks out of shape 

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