Why draft Cam Reddish aside from "potential"?

[Duke4life831]

Guy is playing 3rd fiddle to the top 2 prospects in the draft. Give him a break.

Remember when Booker came out and everyone was like "Oh I didn't know he had this type of ball game." same thing with Cam. He'll look a lot better in 48 minute games with more space

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Cam averages more shots per game than Zion does. Also this is Cam when not playing 3rd fiddle and is the clear cut 2nd option.

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He got even worse.

[Ferulci]

Guy is playing 3rd fiddle to the top 2 prospects in the draft. Give him a break.

Remember when Booker came out and everyone was like "Oh I didn't know he had this type of ball game." same thing with Cam. He'll look a lot better in 48 minute games with more space

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Cam averages more shots per game than Zion does. Also this is Cam when not playing 3rd fiddle and is the clear cut 2nd option.

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He got even worse.

Unbelievable. He's been god awful this year, and that's even without mentionning the concerns he had entering his freshman year (lack of energy, competitiveness, too passive).
I'm sleepless at the thought of the Bulls drafting him.

[Duke4life831]

Guy is playing 3rd fiddle to the top 2 prospects in the draft. Give him a break.

Remember when Booker came out and everyone was like "Oh I didn't know he had this type of ball game." same thing with Cam. He'll look a lot better in 48 minute games with more space

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Cam averages more shots per game than Zion does. Also this is Cam when not playing 3rd fiddle and is the clear cut 2nd option.

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He got even worse.

Unbelievable. He's been god awful this year, and that's even without mentionning the concerns he had entering his freshman year (lack of energy, competitiveness, too passive).
I'm sleepless at the thought of the Bulls drafting him.

Ya if you just look at the tape this year and imagine the high school ranking and hype wasn't behind him. No one would even consider him a OAD prospect. The actual talk would be, what's more important from the 2 spot for Duke, Cam's defense or Alex O'Connell's shooting. I think there would be a legit debate on who should be getting more playing time.

[smartyz456]

Guy is playing 3rd fiddle to the top 2 prospects in the draft. Give him a break.

Remember when Booker came out and everyone was like "Oh I didn't know he had this type of ball game." same thing with Cam. He'll look a lot better in 48 minute games with more space

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Cam averages more shots per game than Zion does. Also this is Cam when not playing 3rd fiddle and is the clear cut 2nd option.

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He got even worse.

what the ****

those are atrocious numbers

he better hope he gets drafted by a team that's good with player development + translating it to wins (aka NOT orlando and phoenix)

then again maybe even if he goes to a team with good player development, he'd still suck

[The_Hater]

Huge Duke fan here, but Cam Reddish has been abysmal this year. Aside from "potential" he hasn't been impressive at all. He's had a few good games, but these are his numbers.

SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2018-19 DUKE 29.5 4.6-12.8 .356 2.6-7.9 .332 2.5-3.3 .765 3.8 2.1 0.5 1.8 2.4 2.8 14.3

Hes an incredibly inefficient chucker by any means. Would you throw away a lotto pick?

I personally wouldn't focus too much on his 3FG% because he's obviously a much better shooter than this, his terrible 2FG% of 39.2 is a much bigger concern to me. That's beyond dreadful. Solid pro prospects should not be shooting 39% on 2FG in college, especially when they're not a defensive focus.

His length + athleticism along with his range is definitely intriguing but this sort of inefficiency from a top freshman prospect was last seen with the Harrison twins, and where are they are now?

[MaxRider]

draft pick is always about potential

[E-Balla]

Guy is playing 3rd fiddle to the top 2 prospects in the draft. Give him a break.

Remember when Booker came out and everyone was like "Oh I didn't know he had this type of ball game." same thing with Cam. He'll look a lot better in 48 minute games with more space

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Cam averages more shots per game than Zion does. Also this is Cam when not playing 3rd fiddle and is the clear cut 2nd option.

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He got even worse.

Wow a scrub got worse in a bigger role? Who would've thought?

The only people defending Cam haven't seen him play. He's sooooooo garbage.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Guy is playing 3rd fiddle to the top 2 prospects in the draft. Give him a break.

Remember when Booker came out and everyone was like "Oh I didn't know he had this type of ball game." same thing with Cam. He'll look a lot better in 48 minute games with more space

But Devin Booker was actually good in that role. He hit is 3s. He hit his 2s. He hit his FTs. Booker was efficient. He was productive. He just didn't have a starring role on that team. Booker was decidedly better in just about any way you could look at it.

Reddish does have potential and I get why teams would draft him but he has a long ways to go. He isn't efficient from any range, really. And while it gets suggested that he has some hidden game he can't showcase, Duke has really needed another ballhandler at times and he's never been able to step up on that front and he turns the ball over quite a bit given his limited responsibilities. He's really got no particular skill you can look to and say he's going to be particularly effective with it out of the gates in the NBA. Anyone drafting him is going to do so with the idea of giving him time to improve basically all aspects of his game. He's a long-term developmental project who may or may not pan out.

[I_Like_Dirt]

I personally wouldn't focus too much on his 3FG% because he's obviously a much better shooter than this, his terrible 2FG% of 39.2 is a much bigger concern to me. That's beyond dreadful. Solid pro prospects should not be shooting 39% on 2FG in college, especially when they're not a defensive focus.

His length + athleticism along with his range is definitely intriguing but this sort of inefficiency from a top freshman prospect was last seen with the Harrison twins, and where are they are now?

It's not even just his 2s. He's shooting 76% on FTs, too, which is alright but not the mark of some lights out shooter. His shot hasn't been good from anywhere and that's supposed to be his selling point. He's supposed to have some hidden ballhandling game but when the team needs something like that he doesn't show it. He could absolutely still grow and develop. Lots of players do. Right now, he isn't very good compared to his peers, though.

[TheFinishSniper]

You draft Cam only if you are desperate. Basketball wise Cam doesnt offer you nothing really, he is wasted pick regardless where he is drafted. But somehow checks every single box of what "modern wing" should be in theory. Yet numbers say he isnt any good at all. Size, lenght, style of play, taking right shots while not taking bad shots, yet he is useful as rookie Tony Snell. That's his ceiling.

[og15]

Marvin Williams comes to mind when I think about Cam. I believe his stock decreases from #3.
I hope he proves me wrong, but I consider him a risk, and I don't want him if I'm picking top 5.

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Marvin was a better prospect and it wasn't close but Cam has far more potential at SF. The issue with Marvin, he came 15 years too soon

If young Marvin Williams came into the NBA with the same mentality he has, which would be expected as his brain shouldn't change, he would still just be a very solid complimentary starter and not a star. It wasn't when he came into the league that prevented him from jumping from solid player to star.

[hype_2004]

This kid looks like a poor man's Rudy Gay, plays a lot like him. I'd be weary about drafting a wing with average measurables and poor shooting. If this kid isn't on that Duke team no one would even talked about drafting him in the lottery. This is a case of being in big school masking someone's draft stock.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Dude reminds me of Kelly Oubre.

[heatwillbeback]

Guy who can’t shoot or create offense but is really athletic.

Reminds me of of Josh Jackson, who is a mega bust.

[BlueHeat]

Find me one star player that had as bad of shooting stats as this as a freshman

35/33/76 and 20 more turnovers than assists (below 50 TS%). These numbers are even worse when looking at conference play, so you don't have all the cupcakes that college teams play against factored in.

I've been on and off the Cam hype train roller coaster. But when I took a step back and took off the Duke blue tinted shades, i don't see a NBA prospect at the moment, let alone a top 5, 10, lotto or 1st round pick.

He has size and defense. But the defense isn't elite enough to take him solely on that. He is a jump shooter that has always been inconsistent with his jumper and so far is barely above 30% from 3 in conference play and in the low 70s from the line. I don't recall a 1st round prospect as poor at attacking the basket as Cam. Every time he attacks the basket is a great bet that 1 of 3 things will happen. He just fumbles the ball, he stumbles and falls over, he runs into a guy for a charge.

And it's not like he is this raw athlete either. His explosion around the basket is non-existent.

1000000% AGREE WITH THIS! These are all of the things ive observed. Hes a really bad shooter and an above average defender with a long skinny frame who can't drive to the basket.

[Stillwater]

he always stands out on the court...meaning he stands out there... Quincy Miller like post injury prospects don't do well in the NBA...but hey he has a ton of upside since he has a nba body so lets keep pretending he is the next big thing

[kodo]

This is why drafting High Schoolers again is going to be a disaster.

Can you imagine these kids entering the NBA being drafted by their HS rankings:

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

Guy is playing 3rd fiddle to the top 2 prospects in the draft. Give him a break.

Remember when Booker came out and everyone was like "Oh I didn't know he had this type of ball game." same thing with Cam. He'll look a lot better in 48 minute games with more space

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Ah, so because he's playing next to 2 great players, all the open shots he gets are causing him to miss and shoot much worse than Devin Booker.

[GimmeDat]

Cam has an incredibly valuable archetype and has shown flashes of really advanced ability unique for a player his size. He also has a baseline of quality, versatile defense. So that's the argument for him - as you said, there is a lot of 'potential' there. Size/length, shooting/creation versatility, handle/passing flashes, defensive ability.

But of course, his abysmal play this season will drop him down boards, no doubt. It's hard to evaluate him with context considered - being with Zion and RJ I believe has not been ideal for his stock, but you can also argue that both ways, because in theory, being able to play off of those guys should mean you're more efficient and you have less TO's - instead he's shooting 35.5% on the season and he's averaging 3.8 TO's per 40 to 2.8 assists. They're DAMNING figures. Add in Duke4Life's stats at the top of this page and there's not much substance to that notion.

Reddish is extremely polarizing, and it's a fair argument to say that if Cam wasn't such a big name out of HS, he wouldn't be getting nearly this much hype, or at least there would be a much stronger push for him to return to school. But I think the caveats/excuses you can make for his poor play, whilst watching his flashes of good games in which he looks like a top 3 guy, will be enough to secure him a top 10 or at least lottery selection, and honestly, I'd be comfortable with that sort of risk outside of the top 7 or so.

[clyde21]

This is why drafting High Schoolers again is going to be a disaster.

Can you imagine these kids entering the NBA being drafted by their HS rankings:

1. not all of these guys would've went straight to the NBA. just because it's available, doesn't mean all them will choose it. in fact, only the ones that deserve it will.

2. look at the history of players drafted straight out of history...the success rate is higher than that of players that went to college at least one year, so your conclusion is just wrong either way.

3. do more research