Ricky Rubio named FIBA MVP

[jinxed]

Best team is always composed by one player of each the finalists and usually bronze team.
This means.
- 1 from Spain: best was during the tournament Ricky Rubio, but Marc Gasol delivered well in the last two games
- 1 from Argentina: Scola was the best man and Campazzo the second best.
- 1 from France: Fournier was the best and Gobert had only one or two good games

- Then usually you take the best player from the overall tournament. That's Bogdanovic.

- The remaining one you pick again from winning team. Marc Gasol.

Patty Mills would be there instead of Fournier if they would not have chocked twice in semifinals and final.
Campazzo would be there if Argentina would have won.
Donovan Mitchell would be there if the US would have got a medal.
Kemba Walker too if the US would have won.

It is about MVP and the V is for Valuable, not for Better. Who brought more value the his team in this tournament.

The player who was strictly the most valuable for his team was probably Satoransky. But with a 6th place finish you can't be MVP.

[packforfreedom]

[Hugi Mancura]

not that they are right but what does this competition have to do with nba season

Not sure how to respond..... you realize this “competition” involved playing basketball right?

and "playing basketball" is enough reason to equate this competition and nba basketball?

dragic had a below average season in the nba after being mvp of the euro championships.

Rubio still might be the second worst signing. No-one can beat Rozier. With Rubio you need to give him the ball and does he get the ball with Booker? You can sign Lebron with max contract and if you put Lebron to stand in the corner waiting for someone to pass him the ball he would be worst signing of the season. You still need to use your players correctly and if you don't them he will be playing badly.

[dhsilv2]

Could this team even win 30 games in the NBA?

NBA rules suck, so probably no.

They'd lose even in the hallowed days of the 90s for those who think the current rules suck. Guys like Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley and Shaq would feast on that frontcourt. The backcourt is BBQ chicken for Jordan or Drexler.

What? Gasol at his apex is elite. That team easily wins 30 games.

[udfa]

It seemed like everyone was polarized on Rubio in the 09 draft, either awesome or bust, but he's just been a really solid NBA player his whole career. Looking forward to seeing him dish for Phoenix this year

[Crives]

Not sure how to respond..... you realize this “competition” involved playing basketball right?

and "playing basketball" is enough reason to equate this competition and nba basketball?

dragic had a below average season in the nba after being mvp of the euro championships.

Rubio still might be the second worst signing. No-one can beat Rozier. With Rubio you need to give him the ball and does he get the ball with Booker? You can sign Lebron with max contract and if you put Lebron to stand in the corner waiting for someone to pass him the ball he would be worst signing of the season. You still need to use your players correctly and if you don't them he will be playing badly.

Hate for the Suns must be at an all time high. Can’t wait for the season to start.

[dhsilv2]

If anyone remembers... espn called Ricky the worst signing of the offseason...

Who is ESPN?

[XxIronChainzxX]

NBA rules suck, so probably no.

They'd lose even in the hallowed days of the 90s for those who think the current rules suck. Guys like Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley and Shaq would feast on that frontcourt. The backcourt is BBQ chicken for Jordan or Drexler.

What? Gasol at his apex is elite. That team easily wins 30 games.

I'm not talking about peak Gasol. I'm talking about this week's Gasol.

[dhsilv2]

They'd lose even in the hallowed days of the 90s for those who think the current rules suck. Guys like Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley and Shaq would feast on that frontcourt. The backcourt is BBQ chicken for Jordan or Drexler.

What? Gasol at his apex is elite. That team easily wins 30 games.

I'm not talking about peak Gasol. I'm talking about this week's Gasol.

With that..that team is going to be right at 30 wins. I'd take the over assuming they had a decent bench (they should have cap room for a bench).

[jinxed]

What? Gasol at his apex is elite. That team easily wins 30 games.

I'm not talking about peak Gasol. I'm talking about this week's Gasol.

With that..that team is going to be right at 30 wins. I'd take the over assuming they had a decent bench (they should have cap room for a bench).

I bet if you ran the numbers, this is a much better than 30 win team.

A statistician ran the numbers for CSKA Moscow and said CSKA would win 33 games.

This team is much better than CSKA Moscow.

Or compare to the Orlando Magic

DJ Augustin
Evan Fournier
Aaaron Gordon
Jonathon Isaac
Nikola Vucevic

That was a 42 win team.

How is that Orlando team better?

Or the Miami Heat won 39 games..their 5 most frequent starters were...(dragic hurt most of year)

Josh Richardson
Rodney McGruder
Justice Winslow
Kelly Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside

I'm taking the FIBA team over this team.

[dc]

It seemed like everyone was polarized on Rubio in the 09 draft, either awesome or bust, but he's just been a really solid NBA player his whole career. Looking forward to seeing him dish for Phoenix this year

Yeah, he's a good solid PG who can pass and defend. Been so pretty much all of his career.

He was ultra hyped up coming into the 2009 draft. People were talking about him like he was some wunderkind/prodigy who was some combo of Kidd/Magic/Stockton. I assumed that was true, but when I watched his HIGHLIGHTS I didn't see any of that. I just saw a solid player who happened to be 17 at the time.

I think a lot of his hype just came from his productive FIBA play, which was mature beyond his years. And he looked good in 2008 vs. Team USA, IIRC. He's just a better FIBA player than he is NBA player.

[Hugi Mancura]

and "playing basketball" is enough reason to equate this competition and nba basketball?

dragic had a below average season in the nba after being mvp of the euro championships.

Rubio still might be the second worst signing. No-one can beat Rozier. With Rubio you need to give him the ball and does he get the ball with Booker? You can sign Lebron with max contract and if you put Lebron to stand in the corner waiting for someone to pass him the ball he would be worst signing of the season. You still need to use your players correctly and if you don't them he will be playing badly.

Hate for the Suns must be at an all time high. Can’t wait for the season to start.

No hate. Suns is not fighting for playoffs this season, so their main goal might be teaching youngsters. So how Rubio fits in that picture? We will see how Suns will use him between youngsters. Do they plan to give him the keys of their offense?

[mike76]

Not sure how to respond..... you realize this “competition” involved playing basketball right?

and "playing basketball" is enough reason to equate this competition and nba basketball?

dragic had a below average season in the nba after being mvp of the euro championships.

Rubio still might be the second worst signing. No-one can beat Rozier. With Rubio you need to give him the ball and does he get the ball with Booker? You can sign Lebron with max contract and if you put Lebron to stand in the corner waiting for someone to pass him the ball he would be worst signing of the season. You still need to use your players correctly and if you don't them he will be playing badly.

Booker would benefit from being able to play more off the ball in spurts. He will get more efficient looks and he will have more energy to preserve for defense.

The fit is totally fine as Phoenix hasnt had a good point guard since Bledsoe I think?

My concern with the rubio contract is i dont see how a prime rubio adds to a Booker-Ayton core in a couple years. Seems like the type of move to go from a bad team to a treadmill team (which is bad team building).

[Frank Dux]

All tournament team was :

Ricky Rubio
Bogdan Bogdanović
Evan Fournier
Luis Scola
Marc Gasol

How many games does this starting 5 win in the NBA?

32?

[Crives]

and "playing basketball" is enough reason to equate this competition and nba basketball?

dragic had a below average season in the nba after being mvp of the euro championships.

Rubio still might be the second worst signing. No-one can beat Rozier. With Rubio you need to give him the ball and does he get the ball with Booker? You can sign Lebron with max contract and if you put Lebron to stand in the corner waiting for someone to pass him the ball he would be worst signing of the season. You still need to use your players correctly and if you don't them he will be playing badly.

Booker would benefit from being able to play more off the ball in spurts. He will get more efficient looks and he will have more energy to preserve for defense.

The fit is totally fine as Phoenix hasnt had a good point guard since Bledsoe I think?

My concern with the rubio contract is i dont see how a prime rubio adds to a Booker-Ayton core in a couple years. Seems like the type of move to go from a bad team to a treadmill team (which is bad team building).

This is one of the most frustrating takes I have been recently hearing on the national podcasts.... that adding solid nba players this offseason like Rubio hurts our long term upside due to draft positioning.


Suns already have one of the best young cores in a league lacking in young talent. We really don’t need more high upside players... we need to develop the talent we have and regain our winning culture. Already championship level upside between Book/Ayton/Bridges/Oubre/Saric/Cam/TY and we own all our picks and a ton of cap space moving forward.

[TheNG]

All tournament team was :

Ricky Rubio
Bogdan Bogdanović
Evan Fournier
Luis Scola
Marc Gasol

How many games does this starting 5 win in the NBA?

32?

132

[jinxed]

All tournament team was :

Ricky Rubio
Bogdan Bogdanović
Evan Fournier
Luis Scola
Marc Gasol

How many games does this starting 5 win in the NBA?

32?

This team won 39 games.

Josh Richardson
Rodney McGruder
Justice Winslow
Kelly Olynyk
Hassan Whiteside

Which team is better?

[mixerball]

Not sure how to respond..... you realize this “competition” involved playing basketball right?

and "playing basketball" is enough reason to equate this competition and nba basketball?

dragic had a below average season in the nba after being mvp of the euro championships.

Rubio still might be the second worst signing. No-one can beat Rozier. With Rubio you need to give him the ball and does he get the ball with Booker? You can sign Lebron with max contract and if you put Lebron to stand in the corner waiting for someone to pass him the ball he would be worst signing of the season. You still need to use your players correctly and if you don't them he will be playing badly.

but why did you quote me?

[Sugarless]

This is one of the most frustrating takes I have been recently hearing on the national podcasts.... that adding solid nba players this offseason like Rubio hurts our long term upside due to draft positioning.


Suns already have one of the best young cores in a league lacking in young talent. We really don’t need more high upside players... we need to develop the talent we have and regain our winning culture. Already championship level upside between Book/Ayton/Bridges/Oubre/Saric/Cam/TY and we own all our picks and a ton of cap space moving forward.

This. It amazes me that so many people continue to underrate (or flat out disregard) the value of bringing talented and hard working veterans who can lead on and off the court into a group of youngsters. What the Suns young core needs is precisely strong leadership, defense and cohesion from guys like Rubio and Baynes. I think they're both excellent pick ups who can (and hopefully will) help Phoenix transition from a bottom-dweller to one of the best up and coming teams in the league.

[minami]

All tournament team was :

Ricky Rubio
Bogdan Bogdanović
Evan Fournier
Luis Scola
Marc Gasol

How many games does this starting 5 win in the NBA?

32?

I am not very fond of Fournier but that very same group with a prime Scola (I think the 'tweak' is fair) would be a hell of a team, now that you ask. And it could have been Dirk, or Pau, or Manu or whoever any other year...I don´t get the sour grapes from some about FIBA, but have the feeling the American team being irrelevant in China might have something to do with it.

This is a bit like asking; How would Team USA do at FIBA with Andre Igouadala being their best player? He is the NBA FMVP!