Magic Exercising 20-21 Option on Fultz

LloydFree · Post #41 » by **LloydFree** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:25 am

I'm so glad Elton Brand had the sense to see through this Fultz nonsense. The kid can't play and wasn't anything at Washington either. He's successfully parlayed a good FIBA Under-18 tournament into fooling one bad GM into trading up to #1 to get him and fooling another bad GM into paying him his remaining 22 million in extensions. Fultz' handlers should get medals.

NBAFan93 · Post #42 » by **NBAFan93** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:25 am

Dominater wrote:The only Magic here is how this guy will end up bagging $40 in career earnings while barely lifting a finger. Or shoulder rather

If he doesn’t actually start to play in games on a regular basis, It’s ridiculous and very wrong. Dude probably makes more than elite players if you look at his pay per games played.

basketballRob · Post #43 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:33 am

LloydFree wrote:I'm so glad Elton Brand had the sense to see through this Fultz nonsense. The kid can't play and wasn't anything at Washington either. He's successfully parlayed a good FIBA Under-18 tournament into fooling one bad GM into trading up to #1 to get him and fooling another bad GM into paying him his remaining 22 million in extensions. Fultz' handlers should get medals.

We've got some really good coaches working with him so hopefully he can become a solid pro.

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WestGOAT · Post #44 » by **WestGOAT** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:50 am

Dominater wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
It was almost 7 weeks ahead of deadline so this is really encouraging. Management must know something.

they could know everything, and he could look great in practice and working out, and be a top star type offseason, then suits up for a preseason game and airballs all his shots or doesn't take them.

It's an expensive risk, but if you operate as a team over the cap and under the tax, it's just money. Even if he plays bad, they can use the contract in a trade salary filler later. Many teams hang onto salaries for those exact reasons because of being over cap, under tax.

But it takes me back to "but why?". What if he loses an arm in car accident (extreme example).

The bolded. He was killing it in pre-draft workouts, then was a deer in the headlights in games

Exercising his option doesn't make much sense, besides trying to show Fultz you have faith in him. I would say waiting till the deadline and actually see him play some NBA games while he is "healthy" outweighs wasting that money. No one in their right mind would be willing to trade for him if he is still a bust.

BloodNinja · Post #45 » by **BloodNinja** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:12 am

Waste of money. Fultz is a total bust.

Post #46 » by **Nuntius** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:16 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:I am absolutely stunned. Fultz has proven to be nothing short of a giant headache for everyone involved so far in his NBA career. He has accomplished nothing. Why not at least make him go through camp and show progress against actual NBA competition before picking up the option? What's the downside?

Even if Hammond has been attending private workouts over the summer where Fultz has looked great, it still doesn't make sense. Fultz's agent deserves a raise. He should get to keep half of the 12M.

Beyond the stupidity from the Magic's perspective, I don't see how it helps Fultz's development to once again have something handed to him without having to earn it.

As a Sixers fan, I don't think it's fair to call Fultz a headache at any point. He did nothing but work hard and keep his head down. The media narratives about the nature of his condition generated the perceived headache.

Exactly. This whole Fultz situation is almost entirely media driven.

gh123 · Post #47 » by **gh123** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:24 am

He'll try a bit at the end of his current contract and get a crappy deal, after which he'll retire. Parsons-level scammer.

drosereturn · Post #48 » by **drosereturn** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:56 am

He played a career total of 33 games and getting 12 million.
Big Yikes. Next season, he might be one of the richest man earning 1 mil/ game.
Retiring in his early 20s with nearly 50mil in career earnings. Life is fair.
To all the Fultz fans, you guys should pay his big salary for hyping him up as a #1 prospect which he was clearly not.

VDT · Post #49 » by **VDT** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:24 pm

His salary next year is not that important in the grand scheme of things so the risk is relatively low.

However it still doesnt make any sense for the Magic to pick up his option now. They could wait to see how he looks on the court first before deciding or they could simply not pick it up at all. It is highly unlikely that he will get more money next year that what the Magic could offer him.

If anything this decision speaks volumes on how desperate the Magic are to find a player to build around.

Ducklett · Post #50 » by **Ducklett** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:24 pm

VDT wrote:His salary next year is not that important in the grand scheme of things so the risk is relatively low.

However it still doesnt make any sense for the Magic to pick up his option now. They could wait to see how he looks on the court first before deciding or they could simply not pick it up at all. It is highly unlikely that he will get more money next year that what the Magic could offer him.

If anything this decision speaks volumes on how desperate the Magic are to find a player to build around.

The Magic could realistically be a top 4 team in the East this year without Fultz stepping on the court...

I know the Magic aren't the sexiest team to watch if you aren't a fan, but at least do a bit of reading before your "hot" takes.

Swish1906 · Post #51 » by **Swish1906** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:38 pm

Could mean the Magic "know" something and are confident, but also mean is another risky gamble and they wanna give Fultz a confidence boost of not stressing about it

Hussien Fatal · Post #52 » by **Hussien Fatal** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:39 pm

Orlando is the perfect place for Markelle, he has been nothing but a joke so far, he really belongs in disney with all the other cartoons.

NY2k1 · Post #53 » by **NY2k1** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:55 pm

LloydFree wrote:The kid can't play and wasn't anything at Washington either.

He might end up being a bust, but this is simply not true.

dhsilv2 · Post #54 » by **dhsilv2** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:04 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:
Dominater wrote:The only Magic here is how this guy will end up bagging $40 in career earnings while barely lifting a finger. Or shoulder rather

If he doesn’t actually start to play in games on a regular basis, It’s ridiculous and very wrong. Dude probably makes more than elite players if you look at his pay per games played.

Embiid played 31 games his first 3 seasons. Philly didn't drop him. Fultz has played 33 more games in his first two years than Embiid who's an MVP candidate now.

LloydFree · Post #55 » by **LloydFree** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:14 pm

NY2k1 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:The kid can't play and wasn't anything at Washington either.

He might end up being a bust, but this is simply not true.

Dude was trash. Every televised game Washington played was exactly the same. He didn't do s... until they were down 20, then when other team let up, he stuffed the stat sheet. Then that bum sat out the 2nd half of his conference schedule because he didn't want to play those teams on the road, look even worse, and jeopardize his #1 status.

The only reason we're still talking about this bum is because someone with a popular free website, wrote he was the #1 prospect and bunch of sheep that read that, and barely saw him play, believed that nonsense.

CalOrl11 · Post #56 » by **CalOrl11** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:15 pm

I'm done with the speculation and videos of him shooting. I will only believe it when I see him on the court in a Magic jersey

Creativetran · Post #57 » by **Creativetran** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:49 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:I'm not sure I've ever wanted a guy to success more than Fultz with all the countless garbage hate he's gotten for no reason.

It's easy to see why Philli fans hate him, but wonder why so many other people do as well.

dhsilv2 · Post #58 » by **dhsilv2** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:55 pm

Creativetran wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:I'm not sure I've ever wanted a guy to success more than Fultz with all the countless garbage hate he's gotten for no reason.

It's easy to see why Philli fans hate him, but wonder why so many other people do as well.

I don't see any reason for a philly fan to hate the guy. I'm not aware of him doing ANYTHING to justify such a strong reaction. All I've seen is a guy who seems to work hard, keep his mouth shut, and who's clearly had a run of bad luck. Maybe he never pans out but there's no reason to hate a guy for failing.

NBAFan93 · Post #59 » by **NBAFan93** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:10 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:
Dominater wrote:The only Magic here is how this guy will end up bagging $40 in career earnings while barely lifting a finger. Or shoulder rather

If he doesn’t actually start to play in games on a regular basis, It’s ridiculous and very wrong. Dude probably makes more than elite players if you look at his pay per games played.

Embiid played 31 games his first 3 seasons. Philly didn't drop him. Fultz has played 33 more games in his first two years than Embiid who's an MVP candidate now.

But Embiid looked absolutely amazing in those few games he played and had injuries that were much more cut and die/verifiable. I thought that 3rd or 4th opinion on what was wrong w/ Fultz said he was going to be able to play after the ASB last season? What happened to that?

NBAFan93 · Post #60 » by **NBAFan93** » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:12 pm

Swish1906 wrote:Could mean the Magic "know" something and are confident, but also mean is another risky gamble and they wanna give Fultz a confidence boost of not stressing about it

Or they want to up his trade value.