pepe1991 wrote:GelbeWand09 wrote:MagicMatic wrote:
And?
What’s the difference between a 30 win team and a 35 win team in the grand scheme? Nothing, it’s still an inconsequential **** nba team.
At least the former will be getting better draft odds and won’t be overpaying crap players to get +5 wins.
Excactly. The smart teams in our situation try to get 4 producing young players or veterans on 10-12 mil contracts instead of 2 for 45 mil. When you are not a contender & not a rebuilding team you need flexibility more than everything. You need players you can trade everytime when a opportunity pops up like Houston, Miami, Indiana are doing.
Actually difference between 30 and 40 games is huge.
It's actually in most cases addition of 1 great player difference.
If Warriors won "just" 10 games more they would have been 82-0 so 10 games means A LOT.
it's also difference between 40 and 50 wins, "just" 10 games.
last year 10 games swing was difference between home court adventage in first round on East ( Celtics) and missing playoffs ( Hornets)
This roster is underperforming because they lost 2 starters from last year and replaced them with limited , non-shooters. What's so suprising about current record but fact they are somehow still in playoffs ?
Being 8th means that HALF of the East is
WORST than you are.
Magic fans should know better than any other fans that going from 25 to 35 wins is paaaaainfuuuuuull experience and after hitting rock bottom you have long way to come to halfway of standings.
Some posters are being hypocrics who are "tired of Evan" because "same face for years" and yet hope to God they keep Gordon around, despite them playing same amount of time for Magic.
Part of same posters who are "tired" of Evan were crying a river for Payton and Hezonja after 3 and 4 years of constant sucking.
So let's not pretend that every opinion is worth the same.
I don't care if Evan is gone, and if DJ is gone per-se. I know that they won't find adequate replacments because on FA market they don't attract anybody nor they have money to sign anybody that will bring them equal value. So it will be stuffing roster with more garbage that is willing to come.
By far most desired outcome of Evan situation is that he picks up his player's option for next year. SO you can trade him for equal value later or/and attack playoffs next year once again, with healty, and somewhat changed roster.
But ofc most people are hypocrits who deep inside know that, but because they are "tired" of good player, they want him gone. But that's non of my business.
How execlly that will help a team? I guess in same manners how Aminu helped
I think its pretty easy to win 35-40 games. Just do what Indiana was doing all the time. The last Miami team too, til the Wade retirement show stopped that. They always won even when George was injured, Dipo was injured or before they were there. Getting to 40 wins with a young team without a young impact player is hard for sure, right. Like us, Phoenix, Sac & co showed. You have to decide if you tank until you get a real star (not only off. star like Booker) or if you try to add winning vets.
But its kinda easy being a 35-40 win fringe playoff team in the east, when you have a team full of vets. I mean we are a example of that too in the moment. With the regression of Vuc to non All-star production. We have a team with more or less producing Vets fighting for 35-40 wins. Our problem is, we are signing them to long 15-25 Mio contracts. Indiana's Thaddeus Young's, Collisons, Warrens, Lambs, Corey Josephs, Evans, Bogdanovics, Stephensons, Stuckey, Monta Ellis & Co were or are all easy to trade.
I can understand the guys here, who doesnt wanna be the laughing stock of the NBA again & win 20-30 games, but i just dont think thats the case. Put a shooter in Evans spot for half the money. Trade AG for another shooter or 3-D player or best case young fringe all-star & i doubt we lose much or any, but are much more flexible. I think Evan doesnt have as much impact as many think anyway. Vuc we know, when he plays up to his best, he is producing wins. Evan i'm not sure about (You can be a good scorer and still doesnt impact winning. There are hundreds of examples on Bad & mediocre teams in the history of the NBA).
I'm not tired of Evan as a basketball player. I'm tired of his role & i fear his new contract. Like i wrote yesterday. Evan is a roleplayer who got a ''allstar'' like role here by default & is gonna paid like that. I would love Evan in his best role & like him as a person. Like i said a few posts above, i prefer 2 roleplayers for the same price Evans gonna get soon. Those 2 probably know there role & they are easier to trade. If we have a FO that gets the right players for him, sure is a different question
About AG, Payton & Hezonja. Thats probably about other posters. I was never a fan of the last 2 & AG is a ''deadman walking'' for me anyway. So i dont care for him that much, because its only a matter of time til he is traded.
