Over the years we had MJ copycats, While Lebron has none
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Jordan was more prototypical guard of his time but he was just better than anyone like him before or after.
Lebron has so many different skill sets and Combined with his size, it's obvious why its hard to actually try and mimic his game.
None of this suggest that one is better than the other but Jordan become a GOAT player because he was just better at what he did best, Lebron became a GOAT level player because he could do a number of things better than most.
Lebron has so many different skill sets and Combined with his size, it's obvious why its hard to actually try and mimic his game.
None of this suggest that one is better than the other but Jordan become a GOAT player because he was just better at what he did best, Lebron became a GOAT level player because he could do a number of things better than most.
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But you could say LeBron copied bits and pieces of other great players such as Magic, Dr.J, MJ, etc,.. Every time we see an all-time great we always recognize some stuff in their game that reminds us of another player. To mimic someone is almost like lacking an own identity and not knowing what you're truly good at. You have to find you're own niche and pick stuff from every player that would help your game. This applies to life in general.
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I think Giannis and Lebron play similarly, probably not identically.
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Well MJ was an icon around the world, known to be the super athlete that people wanted to follow. With Air Jordan his legacy has been etched in history and will always remain. Bulls Jersey is known for Jordan on the back.
Whereas Lebron is a superstar who is known to take easy routes to championships. He is popular and as great as he is, his legacy is jumping teams to teams and colluding in search for easy championships. As much as you all hates it, this is true and that is why kids still till today try to copy Jordan more than LeBron.
Whereas Lebron is a superstar who is known to take easy routes to championships. He is popular and as great as he is, his legacy is jumping teams to teams and colluding in search for easy championships. As much as you all hates it, this is true and that is why kids still till today try to copy Jordan more than LeBron.
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SoulJah wrote:Well MJ was an icon around the
world, known to be the super athlete that people wanted to follow. With Air Jordan his legacy has been etched in history and will always remain. Bulls Jersey is known for Jordan on the back.
Whereas Lebron is a superstar who is known to take easy routes to championships. He is popular and as great as he is, his legacy is jumping teams to teams and colluding in search for easy championships. As much as you all hates it, this is true and that is why kids still till today try to copy Jordan more than LeBron.
Sure, buddy...
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boomershadow wrote:I think Giannis and Lebron play similarly, probably not identically.
I think that Giannis plays more like a super sized (young) Wade than he does Lebron.
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because who is born to be 6'8" 240 lbs with that athleticism? It's 85% genetics 15% PEDs. This isn't something to brag about or something that bolsters his GOAT case. It's the exact opposite in fact. No clones because he's a genetic freak. Sadly, he didn't get the clutch gene along with it.
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The Real Dalic wrote:Luka Doncic is a LeBron clone. He's not as strong or athletic, but he absolutely plays like him. Also, only Kobe was a Jordan clone of those you listed. Lol at suggesting Iverson. This was a weird way to make the case for LeBron as GOAT.
I dont remember Lebron taking step back threes watching him growing up. Luka might play similarly to Lebron now, but this is just the Lebron we've seen the past couple of seasons. Young Lebron was this freaky above the rim athlete constantly dunking on people's heads and guarding everything on defense, completely unlike Luka.

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Petrucci wrote:MJ Copycats = Kobe, Tmac, Vince Carter, Iverson, Durant.
While there have been players who had a Lebron comparison in their draft like Wiggins and Simmons they have been exposed as frauds, 17 years on since Lebron has been drafted yet we have not seen anyone close who has a complete package of physicality, dominance, post game, inside and outside game, half court and full court offense, athleticism and excellent passing skills.
That's why he's the GOAT and we might never see someone like him again while Jordan clones come and go.
Lol how long have you been watching the nba kid? 4? 5 years? People copycat jordan cause they wanna be jordan. Maybe nobody wanted to be like le clown...you ever think of that? And only kobe was a jordan clone
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DarkAzcura wrote:If you are going to count Iverson and Durant as MJ clones, you clearly have a loose definition, but for whatever reason have a tight definition for Lebron clones. If those two are MJ clones, Harden and Doncic definitely qualify as Lebron clones.
If we are being equally tight, there is only one MJ clone in Kobe. For Lebron, there is none with Doncic being the closest.
Doncic does not come close to LeBron. LeBron was once an elite 2 way player and still could he in spurts, Doncic will never be that he does not have LeBron's speed,athleticism, or IQ on the floor. LeBron thinks the game much more than Luka and isn't trigger happy from 3.
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Dino353 wrote:DarkAzcura wrote:If you are going to count Iverson and Durant as MJ clones, you clearly have a loose definition, but for whatever reason have a tight definition for Lebron clones. If those two are MJ clones, Harden and Doncic definitely qualify as Lebron clones.
If we are being equally tight, there is only one MJ clone in Kobe. For Lebron, there is none with Doncic being the closest.
Doncic does not come close to LeBron. LeBron was once an elite 2 way player and still could he in sports, Doncic will never be that he does not have LeBron's speed,athleticism, or IQ on the floor. LeBron thinks the game much more than Luka and isn't trigger happy from 3.
I have literally watched games where Le bron wasn’t even trying to play defense so just stop with this two way player crap. Lukas basketball IQ is ever bit of Le Brons. Maybe try watching him play? Both are horrible at the free throw line and neither has a midrange game either. Big difference is Luka will probably be like dirk and be loyal to Dallas while Le bron is only loyal to Le bron. Bird wasn’t very athletic or fast but it didn’t keep him from dominating
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Doncic plays a lot like Lebron, especially with how he can kick out to shooters off the pick and roll
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People don't copy LeBron because people prefer to copy the best
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Haven't seen a lot of new Shaq's either.
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Copying MJ requires trying to master fundamentals and technical skills. Copying LeBron requires things you cant really develop. Even at age 35 he has physical tools and athleticism that most professional athletes could only dream about.
Some have mentioned Luka and there are some similarities, especially with the ball handling and playmaking ability that both have. With that said Doncic is more reliant on his exceptional footwork, change of pace dribbling and touch to get into the paint and finish. He can't come flying over you to catch a lob on a fastbreak the way LeBron can.
Some have mentioned Luka and there are some similarities, especially with the ball handling and playmaking ability that both have. With that said Doncic is more reliant on his exceptional footwork, change of pace dribbling and touch to get into the paint and finish. He can't come flying over you to catch a lob on a fastbreak the way LeBron can.
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Jadoogar wrote:The Real Dalic wrote:Luka Doncic is a LeBron clone. He's not as strong or athletic, but he absolutely plays like him. Also, only Kobe was a Jordan clone of those you listed. Lol at suggesting Iverson. This was a weird way to make the case for LeBron as GOAT.
i would say Luka is closer to Harden. Lebron's athleticism was integral to his playstyle earlier in his career. Ben Simmons is a closer analog to Lebron
I second that. Luka's speculative game, stopping, accelerating, going back and forth, moving all around the perimeter while combining with his teammates, etc. doesn't look at all like Lebron's.
It looks more like Harden's, although still more mobile and combinative than his.
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Petrucci wrote:MJ Copycats = Kobe, Tmac, Vince Carter, Iverson, Durant.
While there have been players who had a Lebron comparison in their draft like Wiggins and Simmons they have been exposed as frauds, 17 years on since Lebron has been drafted yet we have not seen anyone close who has a complete package of physicality, dominance, post game, inside and outside game, half court and full court offense, athleticism and excellent passing skills.
That's why he's the GOAT and we might never see someone like him again while Jordan clones come and go.
I don't believe it proves he's the goat.
Lebron with his height, size, strength, and speed makes it more difficult for others to copy him. His work ethic exceeds most, too.
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It's not easy to copy a player who is elite in every aspect of the game.
I know MJ was an amazing all around player, but his one-on-one scoring ability stands out. I'm not saying it's easy to be a great iso scorer, but the barrier to entry is certainly lower than being a 6'9" floor general.
The list of players who are reasonable physical facsimiles of MJ is fairly long. In contrast, I can count on one hand the number of players with Lebron's size, coordination, and athleticism. Ben Simmons? Giannis?
Not everyone wants to be a play-maker either. Part of Lebron's value as a teammate is his willingness to share the ball (almost to a fault). Most players like to score first. And without an exceptional understanding of the game, you won't be able to make the reads Lebron does anyway.
Ultimately, I don't think this is a useful metric for GOAT status. And I totally disagree with OP's list of supposed "MJ clones". KD? Iverson? Are you kidding me?
I know MJ was an amazing all around player, but his one-on-one scoring ability stands out. I'm not saying it's easy to be a great iso scorer, but the barrier to entry is certainly lower than being a 6'9" floor general.
The list of players who are reasonable physical facsimiles of MJ is fairly long. In contrast, I can count on one hand the number of players with Lebron's size, coordination, and athleticism. Ben Simmons? Giannis?
Not everyone wants to be a play-maker either. Part of Lebron's value as a teammate is his willingness to share the ball (almost to a fault). Most players like to score first. And without an exceptional understanding of the game, you won't be able to make the reads Lebron does anyway.
Ultimately, I don't think this is a useful metric for GOAT status. And I totally disagree with OP's list of supposed "MJ clones". KD? Iverson? Are you kidding me?
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Petrucci wrote:MJ Copycats = Kobe, Tmac, Vince Carter, Iverson, Durant.
While there have been players who had a Lebron comparison in their draft like Wiggins and Simmons they have been exposed as frauds, 17 years on since Lebron has been drafted yet we have not seen anyone close who has a complete package of physicality, dominance, post game, inside and outside game, half court and full court offense, athleticism and excellent passing skills.
That's why he's the GOAT and we might never see someone like him again while Jordan clones come and go.
there's been no magic and that's 30yrs. no one has come close to his passing skill.