2020-2021 College/Draft Thread Part 3

[thebuzzardman]

You brag about him being a top 10 pick acting like he's a guaranteed star because he's mocked higher than others. yet you ignore how much players in the top 10 busted. stop it.

you say im acting like a child yet you have beef with posters in pretty much every thread in you're in. at least a mod figured you out and said you stanned hard for terrence williams before you got banned previouly. so now we know how awful your takes were. carry on.

You act like a 13 year old girl. I'm allowed my opinions about Barnes, and you're allowed yours. I don't brag about anything. That's so silly to say. This is message board for fans, nothing more. Carry on, though. Continue to make yourself look like a fool.

yeah carry on. keep beefing with everyone in every thread acting like you're albert einstein of basketball.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Australia's track record with first rounders is looking a little sketchy


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Simmons


His jumpshot being a weakness is off putting.

Ben Simmons turned out well and there are other good players from Australia (Bogut, Ingles, Baynes, Mills) so I wouldnt factor that in too much. Ball and Hampton transitioning good from the league too.

Jumpshot is a concern. But I like his passing and other tools enough to gamble that he can improve the jumper. A lot of good prospects come in with shaky jumpers and improve, even on our team with RJ, Randle. Not everyone does but its worth the risk around where we will be picking.

Like his passing/vision/feel as great tools to build from

I think Simmons is a massive disappointment on offense, he is good, but you can definitely make a case for Brown, Ingram and even Siakam being better from that draft. Definitely wouldn't call LaMelo/Hamtpon Australian prospects either, I mean the guys born and raised there that developed in their system.

If we're going to go with guys that have poor shots, it might be better to look at someone like Jalen Johnson who has similar strengths but is a much better athlete with the potential to be a multi-positional defender.

I don’t really see much reverence to Giddey though. I wouldn’t rule anyone out based on where they were born/raised especially these days. The difference with Simmons is even in college he barely attempted any 3s. Giddey at least attempts them and makes over 1 a game. Think it’s at least fixable/improvable. Volume is an important metric too.

I wouldn’t call Ball/Hampton Australian prospects either, but they played in the same league at the same age. The comparison would be how those guys looked compared to Giddey. Giddey is putting up pretty good numbers in comparison.

[NewKnicks]

yeah carry on. keep beefing with everyone in every thread acting like you're albert einstein of basketball.

3ToHeadMelo in 2018, Prior to us drafting Knox:

Another Poster: " Who's that guy in this draft? Knox?"

3ToHeadMelo: "hop on the bandwagon NOW! been hypin him up since february. FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH"

As everyone can now see, Melo was on the Knox bandwagon and pushing for the Knicks to draft them since February of 2018.

With that track record, Melo, you really shouldn't be judging other people's opinions on players in the draft.

Shouldn't be flapping your jaws so much acting like you're some super talent evaluator when it's so easier for people to look at your past results. And Knox is just the beginning, I could post 4 more players you were salivating over who have turned into busts. Not a good look, bruh.

I also see you fighting with so many posters back then. I see you pick fights with everyone and you act the same way you do now. As if you know something, when you really don't know much.

Especially after seeing your pathetic draft predictions on here, I'll stick with my own evaluations, thanks. Bye Melo!

Everyone knows that i hopped off the knox bandwagon after watching him play in college. i liked him in high school. but thanks for posting something irrelevant and making yourself look dumb as usual. you can keep posting my old takes cause you keep showing to everyone you're a previously banned poster. and i never claimed to be an expert anyways which you claim i am. so i guess you're one of my biggest fans since you're obsessed with my posts from over 3 years ago. also, thanks to one of the site mods, we know that you stanned a complete garbage player terrence williams from one of your previously banned accounts. that's pretty embarassing.

Okay, I'll be back. You never give up, do you? Just admit it. You're a fraud who posts 25 players and predicts they'll be good every year, and you're bound to be right every once in awhile. Everyone knows that too, Melo.

[3toheadmelo]

yeah carry on. keep beefing with everyone in every thread acting like you're albert einstein of basketball.

3ToHeadMelo in 2018, Prior to us drafting Knox:

Another Poster: " Who's that guy in this draft? Knox?"

3ToHeadMelo: "hop on the bandwagon NOW! been hypin him up since february. FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH"

As everyone can now see, Melo was on the Knox bandwagon and pushing for the Knicks to draft them since February of 2018.

With that track record, Melo, you really shouldn't be judging other people's opinions on players in the draft.

Shouldn't be flapping your jaws so much acting like you're some super talent evaluator when it's so easier for people to look at your past results. And Knox is just the beginning, I could post 4 more players you were salivating over who have turned into busts. Not a good look, bruh.

I also see you fighting with so many posters back then. I see you pick fights with everyone and you act the same way you do now. As if you know something, when you really don't know much.

Especially after seeing your pathetic draft predictions on here, I'll stick with my own evaluations, thanks. Bye Melo!

If you keep coming at me, I'll keep posting more of your brilliant draft evaluations. It's up to you, really. I'll let you decide how much you prefer to be exposed for your miserable draft prediction failures.

keep posting them. i never said im an expert. you're so butthurt that whenever someone disagrees with you, you're quick to bring up random irrelevant takes from years ago like an obsessed ex that lives in the past. im not the only one you did this to. it's a weird flex cause you swear you're right but you got banned plenty of times for being a garbage poster. keep attacking everyone on this board and you'll get banned.. again. sad.

and if you're gonna post a bad take of mine at least post something that is credible. i wanted the knicks to draft sexton, not knox.

[3toheadmelo]

3ToHeadMelo in 2018, Prior to us drafting Knox:

Another Poster: " Who's that guy in this draft? Knox?"

3ToHeadMelo: "hop on the bandwagon NOW! been hypin him up since february. FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH"

As everyone can now see, Melo was on the Knox bandwagon and pushing for the Knicks to draft them since February of 2018.

With that track record, Melo, you really shouldn't be judging other people's opinions on players in the draft.

Shouldn't be flapping your jaws so much acting like you're some super talent evaluator when it's so easier for people to look at your past results. And Knox is just the beginning, I could post 4 more players you were salivating over who have turned into busts. Not a good look, bruh.

I also see you fighting with so many posters back then. I see you pick fights with everyone and you act the same way you do now. As if you know something, when you really don't know much.

Especially after seeing your pathetic draft predictions on here, I'll stick with my own evaluations, thanks. Bye Melo!

Everyone knows that i hopped off the knox bandwagon after watching him play in college. i liked him in high school. but thanks for posting something irrelevant and making yourself look dumb as usual. you can keep posting my old takes cause you keep showing to everyone you're a previously banned poster. and i never claimed to be an expert anyways which you claim i am. so i guess you're one of my biggest fans since you're obsessed with my posts from over 3 years ago. also, thanks to one of the site mods, we know that you stanned a complete garbage player terrence williams from one of your previously banned accounts. that's pretty embarassing.

Okay, I'll be back. You never give up, do you? Just admit it. You're a fraud who posts 25 players and predicts they'll be good every year, and you're bound to be right every once in awhile. Everyone knows that too, Melo.

you can keep posting them but it doesn't matter to really anyone here. i own up to what i was wrong on. and i never claimed to be an expert. so not sure what you're trying to prove here. you're really that butthurt that i didn't put scottie barnes on the poll cause he's not in our range you're going on some rampage posting irrelevant takes from over 3 years ago from me. you really need help man.

[NewKnicks]

Everyone knows that i hopped off the knox bandwagon after watching him play in college. i liked him in high school. but thanks for posting something irrelevant and making yourself look dumb as usual. you can keep posting my old takes cause you keep showing to everyone you're a previously banned poster. and i never claimed to be an expert anyways which you claim i am. so i guess you're one of my biggest fans since you're obsessed with my posts from over 3 years ago. also, thanks to one of the site mods, we know that you stanned a complete garbage player terrence williams from one of your previously banned accounts. that's pretty embarassing.

Okay, I'll be back. You never give up, do you? Just admit it. You're a fraud who posts 25 players and predicts they'll be good every year, and you're bound to be right every once in awhile. Everyone knows that too, Melo.

you can keep posting them but it doesn't matter to really anyone here. i own up to what i was wrong on. and i never claimed to be an expert. so not sure what you're trying to prove here. you're really that butthurt that i didn't put scottie barnes on the poll cause he's not in our range you're going on some rampage posting irrelevant takes from over 3 years ago from me. you really need help man.

I'm not going to derail the thread anymore. You win buddy!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Ben Simmons turned out well and there are other good players from Australia (Bogut, Ingles, Baynes, Mills) so I wouldnt factor that in too much. Ball and Hampton transitioning good from the league too.

Jumpshot is a concern. But I like his passing and other tools enough to gamble that he can improve the jumper. A lot of good prospects come in with shaky jumpers and improve, even on our team with RJ, Randle. Not everyone does but its worth the risk around where we will be picking.

Like his passing/vision/feel as great tools to build from

I think Simmons is a massive disappointment on offense, he is good, but you can definitely make a case for Brown, Ingram and even Siakam being better from that draft. Definitely wouldn't call LaMelo/Hamtpon Australian prospects either, I mean the guys born and raised there that developed in their system.

If we're going to go with guys that have poor shots, it might be better to look at someone like Jalen Johnson who has similar strengths but is a much better athlete with the potential to be a multi-positional defender.

I don’t really see much reverence to Giddey though. I wouldn’t rule anyone out based on where they were born/raised especially these days. The difference with Simmons is even in college he barely attempted any 3s. Giddey at least attempts them and makes over 1 a game. Think it’s at least fixable/improvable. Volume is an important metric too.

I wouldn’t call Ball/Hampton Australian prospects either, but they played in the same league at the same age. The comparison would be how those guys looked compared to Giddey. Giddey is putting up pretty good numbers in comparison.

I don't dislike Giddey, just that his strengths wouldn't really be used here, and his jumper being shaky is worrisome. He's not going to be on ball much here to play in the PnR so his jumpshot in catch and shoot situations would need to be good. I think what we need mostly is guys who attack or shoot, there's not much room for anything in between that. Like the ideal PG for us is the combo guard PG who can shoot when they don't have the ball and attacks looking to score first when they have it.

[3toheadmelo]

Okay, I'll be back. You never give up, do you? Just admit it. You're a fraud who posts 25 players and predicts they'll be good every year, and you're bound to be right every once in awhile. Everyone knows that too, Melo.

you can keep posting them but it doesn't matter to really anyone here. i own up to what i was wrong on. and i never claimed to be an expert. so not sure what you're trying to prove here. you're really that butthurt that i didn't put scottie barnes on the poll cause he's not in our range you're going on some rampage posting irrelevant takes from over 3 years ago from me. you really need help man.

I'm not going to derail the thread anymore. You win buddy!

yeah you should take a break from the keyboard. you seem pretty mad right now. imagine being this mad because i didn't put a player not in our range on a poll. one of the most pathetic things i've ever seen.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

[NewKnicks]

you can keep posting them but it doesn't matter to really anyone here. i own up to what i was wrong on. and i never claimed to be an expert. so not sure what you're trying to prove here. you're really that butthurt that i didn't put scottie barnes on the poll cause he's not in our range you're going on some rampage posting irrelevant takes from over 3 years ago from me. you really need help man.

I'm not going to derail the thread anymore. You win buddy!

yeah you should take a break from the keyboard. you seem pretty mad right now. imagine being this mad because i didn't put a player not in our range on a poll. one of the most pathetic things i've ever seen.

The overall point is, Melo, is that you probably should refrain from talking down to other posters about their draft predictions, when your own draft predictions have been so incredibly awful in the past. That's the point, Mr. 3ToHeadMelo.

[3toheadmelo]

I'm not going to derail the thread anymore. You win buddy!

yeah you should take a break from the keyboard. you seem pretty mad right now. imagine being this mad because i didn't put a player not in our range on a poll. one of the most pathetic things i've ever seen.

The overall point is, Melo, is that you probably should refrain from talking down to other posters about their draft predictions, when your own draft predictions have been so incredibly awful in the past. That's the point, Mr. 3ToHeadMelo.

talking down? all i said was that scottie barnes isn't going to be in our range, so there's no point in putting him on the poll. you're the one going on some delusional rampage posting irrelevant takes from over 3 years ago cause you're so butthurt he's not on the poll. get help kid.

and since you're so obsessed with my draft picks why don't you post all the players i've hit on? you won't. cause it makes you look even dumber again.

[cgf]

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

A mobile 6'8"+ former top HS recruit, who can shoot but ends up dropping down boards because of a disappointing OAD season? I might be able to think of one prospect who fits that bill

[3toheadmelo]

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

i like ziarie williams

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

A mobile 6'8"+ former top HS recruit, who can shoot but ends up dropping down boards because of a disappointing OAD season? I might be able to think of one prospect who fits that bill

[cgf]

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

A mobile 6'8"+ former top HS recruit, who can shoot but ends up dropping down boards because of a disappointing OAD season? I might be able to think of one prospect who fits that bill

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

I like Ziarie Williams

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

i like ziarie williams

He needs to be put on a 10,000 a day calorie diet, but he's sort of in line with McDaniels. Think Jaden would actually be getting playing time with us cause of how well he defends.

[TheGreenArrow]

Rumors running rampant about Terrance Clarke passing away.

Hope it’s not true!!!

[3toheadmelo]

Are there any Jaden McDaniel types of prospects in this draft? The guy with high end talent/potential that drops simply because people don't like them?

Ideally someone 6'8+ that moves their feet really well and makes freethrows?

i like ziarie williams

He needs to be put on a 10,000 a day calorie diet, but he's sort of in line with McDaniels. Think Jaden would actually be getting playing time with us cause of how well he defends.

he's the only 6'8 + guy i can think of that is sorta like mcdaniels in terms of talent. if it wasn't for height i would say terrence clarke. he is 6'7 and extremely talented in my opinion. he was underwhemling in college because of his injuries

[3toheadmelo]

Rumors running rampant about Terrance Clarke passing away.

Hope it’s not true!!!

????

[N Y K]

is Tre Mann anything? I like the limited stuff I've seen so far