RealGM 2020 Top 100 Project: #100 (Bill Walton)

[Clyde Frazier]

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Congrats on another job well done!

[Doctor MJ]

I mentioned Hawkins being in the top 100. But because it’s the last spot I prefer Walton here by far. Btw I don’t see Hawkins being close to Magic as the archetype, Erving/Baylor? Yes. Magic is an outlier of a distributor even amongst the greatest ever. I have Barry ahead of Hawkins same with Erving and Gilmore.

Did it not occur to you why I was making the Magic comparison?

You might want to read my post if you're willing to admit you don't know everything about everything.

No I do not know everything that’s absurd. Yes Hawkins had big hands could get steals and deflections etc. I read your paragraph. Pretty sure MJ/Erving had big ones too. Heck Leonard has big hands could get blocks and deflections, steals etc.

My rebuttal was sound in saying about Magic, he’s an outlier of a distributor even amongst the greatest ever. I repeated that part again
That’s his greatest weapon that you failed to ignore. Heck even LBJ is behind Magic as a distributor for comparable size for godsakes.

Hawkins for me once again is closer to the archetype of Baylor/Erving not Magic it’s a sound assessment.

For crying out loud, I guess I'll spell it out for you:

Any time anyone say "He was more like Magic and less like <volume scorer>", that's a reference to passing.
That's that person saying that you'll understand that player better if you think of him more in terms of passing.

Hence, when someone makes a Magic analogy in situation like that it will never, ever make sense to say "That's a bad analogy because Magic was known for his passing", because the person talking has already made clear that they are trying to make you think about passing by making the Magic analogy.

You are free to disagree with that particular assessment of passing of course, but the conversation is already focused on passing, so it will never make sense to say anything like "You forgot about passing"...even if there isn't a long post in the thread that speaks to stuff like that player's passing that said poster has already told you multiple times to go read if you want to have a productive conversation.

[Doctor MJ]

And just like that, we're done. Hazzah!

Catharsis!

It's an epic journey every time. Thanks for driving us from coast to coast trex!

[Odinn21]

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Thanks a lot for running the project and all the work you did. I really appreciated that you ran the project and also provided well thought out votes and arguments.

[sansterre]

TRex, thanks so much for all the work you did on this. I learned so much and gained so much from participating here. Thanks for giving your time to make it possible!

[penbeast0]

Thank you Trex for running this project without ever faltering. Amazing job!

[homecourtloss]

2020 List
1. LeBron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Tim Duncan
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Magic Johnson
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. Kevin Garnett
12. Kobe Bryant
13. Jerry West
14. Oscar Robertson
15. Dirk Nowitzki
16. Karl Malone
17. David Robinson
18. Julius Erving
19. George Mikan
20. Moses Malone
21. Charles Barkley
22. Kevin Durant
23. Chris Paul
24. Stephen Curry
25. Bob Pettit
26. John Stockton
27. Steve Nash
28. Dwyane Wade
29. Patrick Ewing
30. Walt Frazier
31. James Harden
32. Scottie Pippen
33. Elgin Baylor
34. John Havlicek
35. Rick Barry
36. Jason Kidd
37. George Gervin
38. Clyde Drexler
39. Reggie Miller
40. Artis Gilmore
41. Dolph Schayes
42. Kawhi Leonard
43. Isiah Thomas
44. Russell Westbrook
45. Willis Reed
46. Chauncey Billups
47. Paul Pierce
48. Gary Payton
49. Pau Gasol
50. Ray Allen
51. Dwight Howard
52. Kevin McHale
53. Manu Ginobili
54. Dave Cowens
55. Adrian Dantley
56. Sam Jones
57. Bob Lanier
58. Dikembe Mutombo
59. Elvin Hayes
60. Paul Arizin
61. Anthony Davis
62. Robert Parish
63. Bob Cousy
64. Alonzo Mourning
65. Nate Thurmond
66. Allen Iverson
67. Tracy McGrady
68. Alex English
69. Vince Carter
70. Wes Unseld
71. Tony Parker
72. Rasheed Wallace
73. Dominique Wilkins
74. Giannis Antetokounmpo
75. Kevin Johnson
76. Bobby Jones
77. Bob McAdoo
78. Shawn Marion
79. Dennis Rodman
80. Larry Nance
81. Ben Wallace
82. Hal Greer
83. Grant Hill
84. Sidney Moncrief
85. Damian Lillard
86. Chris Bosh
87. Horace Grant
88. Jeff Hornacek
89. Billy Cunningham
90. Dan Issel
91. James Worthy
92. Carmelo Anthony
93. Terry Porter
94. Cliff Hagan
95. Nikola Jokic
96. Jack Sikma
97. Gus Williams
98. Draymond Green
99. Walt Bellamy
100. ???

Tremendous amount of Kudos to you, TREX—the consistency, the counting, the additions...this is the most thoroughly analyzed top 100 player list in existence with the most amount of footage and data available that was analyzed.

[Gibson22]

Thank you guys and especially you for running the project for basically one entire year, love y'all

[Baski]

And just like that, we're done. Hazzah!

Amazing work t-rex. The consistency and dedication it must take to see this whole thing through...........Again amazing job.

I'm glad I got to be part of this. And thanks to eveyone else who took part. This was educational as hell.