MVP chants for Steph Curry tonight are louder than the MVP chants for Kevin Durant @ Barclays

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Post#41 » by jokeboy86 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:32 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I've seen Curry get loud MVP chants at Staples and MSG.

Hes one of the most popular athletes in the world. Second to LeBron by far as basketball players.

But yeah crowds at Barclays have been pretty subpar this season as compared to last two years. Not exactly sure why.


COVID but more importantly I think Nets fans are just waiting for the playoffs and may not really care where they end up seeding wise as long as they enter the playoffs with a healthy Durant and Harden. Plus correct me if I'm wrong but I also think Nets fans are aware that they still are missing one of their most important players and the 33 million in salary he takes up and it's hard to judge the Nets against any good teams without him(even though I'm starting to think he's not coming back).
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Post#42 » by righterwriter » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:34 am

K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.


Even though it looks like most people rightly ignored this, I'll post Curry's Finals stats for the 10,000th time on RealGM to show what kind of producer he is on the big stage.

Throughout his Finals career, Curry has averaged 26.5 points, 6.2 assists and 5.7 rebounds per game on 42.0 percent shooting from the field and 38.5 percent from 3-point range.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/steph-curry-finals-stats

That ppg average would place him 10th all time, above players like Kobe, Dirk, Dwayne Wade, Larry Bird, Kareem, Duncan, Kawhi, etc.

You might want to reconsider next time you write "rarely produces on the big stage" as the stats prove otherwise.
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Post#43 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:41 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I've seen Curry get loud MVP chants at Staples and MSG.

Hes one of the most popular athletes in the world. Second to LeBron by far as basketball players.

But yeah crowds at Barclays have been pretty subpar this season as compared to last two years. Not exactly sure why.


COVID but more importantly I think Nets fans are just waiting for the playoffs and may not really care where they end up seeding wise as long as they enter the playoffs with a healthy Durant and Harden. Plus correct me if I'm wrong but I also think Nets fans are aware that they still are missing one of their most important players and the 33 million in salary he takes up and it's hard to judge the Nets against any good teams without him(even though I'm starting to think he's not coming back).


Crowds at MSG haven't been the same either. Knicks are 16th in attendance right now.

I think it might have to do with the vaccination requirements. IDk. Its weird.
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Post#44 » by Flash Falcon X » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:12 am

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Flash Falcon X wrote:Steph is getting exposed so badly, can't do anything without KD and Klay. :lol:


[today] but but but... he has *so much* help!

[2 months ago] lol the warriors aren't even a play-in team.




Before the season started I remember someone laughing that the only moves the Warriors did was sign minimum guys and add 2 rookies.

"What are minimum signings and 2 extra rookies going to do??"

And then Jordan Poole is a chucker. Draymond is a triple single donkey. Wiggins is a bust, Minnesota praises the lord that a team was dumb enough to take Wigs off their hands.

"Warriors didn't even make the Playoffs last season so what makes you think they'll be any different this season??"

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Post#45 » by Quattro » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:29 am

Turns out they’re pretty good even without that Durant guy as long as Curry is healthy. Who’da thunk it! Scary looking team when Klay gets back.
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Post#46 » by noreaster23 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:37 am

K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.


Wonderful to see such progressive, healthy framing of masculinity in this thread!
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K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.

the man who would not have a ring without Curry? 8-)

The man who came into Curry's team, said "I'm the alpha", and took those two FMVPs.

Curry coulda had a chance at cracking top 15 players all time with a couple FMVPs. Instead, he went the easy route:

https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-news-bob-myers-credits-steph-currys-presence-for-swaying-kevin-durant/

Dude literally sat in the free agent meeting, "checked his ego" essentially saying "You can come and be the alpha, I'll be the Pippen", hence how KD won two FMVPs and bounced.
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Post#48 » by Cubbies2120 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:45 am

Flash Falcon X wrote:
GunnerWRX wrote:
Flash Falcon X wrote:Steph is getting exposed so badly, can't do anything without KD and Klay. :lol:


[today] but but but... he has *so much* help!

[2 months ago] lol the warriors aren't even a play-in team.



Draymond is a triple single donkey. Wiggins is a bust

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


To be fair, Warrior fans do the same thing when hyping up Curry...

"The help he has = old Draymond and 'max contract' Winnings", but when it comes to their chances at a playoff run, all of a sudden Draymond is a key player & Wiggins is a solid contributor...

Argument seems to change when its hyping Curry vs. hyping the Warriors...
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Post#49 » by K3nny Pow3rs » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:45 am

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K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.


Even though it looks like most people rightly ignored this, I'll post Curry's Finals stats for the 10,000th time on RealGM to show what kind of producer he is on the big stage.

Throughout his Finals career, Curry has averaged 26.5 points, 6.2 assists and 5.7 rebounds per game on 42.0 percent shooting from the field and 38.5 percent from 3-point range.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/steph-curry-finals-stats

That ppg average would place him 10th all time, above players like Kobe, Dirk, Dwayne Wade, Larry Bird, Kareem, Duncan, Kawhi, etc.

You might want to reconsider next time you write "rarely produces on the big stage" as the stats prove otherwise.

Your stats prove Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Those stats are well below his best fg% and 3pt%, and below his best scoring.
Not that we needed to see those stats, we saw the Finals.
And that's why he never wins Finals MVP.

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K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.


Wonderful to see such progressive, healthy framing of masculinity in this thread!

Progressive is the opposite to masculine, and the most healthy man is masculine.
Boys of course are less masculine and accomplish less than men.
In the Finals, Curry is the boy, and KD is the man.
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Post#50 » by WarriorGM » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:10 am

K3nny Pow3rs wrote:
righterwriter wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.


Even though it looks like most people rightly ignored this, I'll post Curry's Finals stats for the 10,000th time on RealGM to show what kind of producer he is on the big stage.

Throughout his Finals career, Curry has averaged 26.5 points, 6.2 assists and 5.7 rebounds per game on 42.0 percent shooting from the field and 38.5 percent from 3-point range.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/steph-curry-finals-stats

That ppg average would place him 10th all time, above players like Kobe, Dirk, Dwayne Wade, Larry Bird, Kareem, Duncan, Kawhi, etc.

You might want to reconsider next time you write "rarely produces on the big stage" as the stats prove otherwise.

Your stats prove Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Those stats are well below his best fg% and 3pt%, and below his best scoring.
Not that we needed to see those stats, we saw the Finals.
And that's why he never wins Finals MVP.


Why would one expect to see a player's best numbers in the finals when one assumes the competition is tougher? Because players raise their game? But that would suggest they weren't playing their best at other times wouldn't it?

Something about Curry that is underappreciated is that his level of play is consistently great throughout an entire season. Other players have dogged it in the regular season and just turn on for the playoffs. Why should that be considered better? In fact it's worse.

That's one reason the FMVP is an inferior award. But then you add all the other junk related to it and one wonders why anyone even brings it up. Bill Russell never won it. Magic received it instead of Kareem because Kareem wasn't available to receive it and the network didn't like that. It's the award for who the media wants the public to believe is the best player.

We did see the finals but it appears some people cannot process what they see unless the media tell them what it is.

But there are others like those chanting MVP tonight who know what their eyes are telling them.
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Post#51 » by turnaroundJ » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:33 am

they only have to swap wiggins for barnes now. throw in wiseman who says no?
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Post#52 » by K3nny Pow3rs » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:36 am

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K3nny Pow3rs wrote:
righterwriter wrote:
Even though it looks like most people rightly ignored this, I'll post Curry's Finals stats for the 10,000th time on RealGM to show what kind of producer he is on the big stage.

Throughout his Finals career, Curry has averaged 26.5 points, 6.2 assists and 5.7 rebounds per game on 42.0 percent shooting from the field and 38.5 percent from 3-point range.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/steph-curry-finals-stats

That ppg average would place him 10th all time, above players like Kobe, Dirk, Dwayne Wade, Larry Bird, Kareem, Duncan, Kawhi, etc.

You might want to reconsider next time you write "rarely produces on the big stage" as the stats prove otherwise.

Your stats prove Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Those stats are well below his best fg% and 3pt%, and below his best scoring.
Not that we needed to see those stats, we saw the Finals.
And that's why he never wins Finals MVP.


Why would one expect to see a player's best numbers in the finals when one assumes the competition is tougher? Because players raise their game? But that would suggest they weren't playing their best at other times wouldn't it?

Something about Curry that is underappreciated is that his level of play is consistently great throughout an entire season. Other players have dogged it in the regular season and just turn on for the playoffs. Why should that be considered better? In fact it's worse.

That's one reason the FMVP is an inferior award. But then you add all the other junk related to it and one wonders why anyone even brings it up. Bill Russell never won it. Magic received it instead of Kareem because Kareem wasn't available to receive it and the network didn't like that. It's the award for who the media wants the public to believe is the best player.

We did see the finals but it appears some people cannot process what they see unless the media tell them what it is.

But there are others like those chanting MVP tonight who know what their eyes are telling them.

Because KD produces the best shooting of his life when he plays NBA Finals, even when he lost to Miami, he averaged 30.6 points, .548 field, .394, all above his career averages, and the fg% is higher than he's ever shot in a season.

Overall in NBA Finals, KD is averaging 30.3 points, .546 field, .448 trey, 7.7 rebounds, 4.5 assists in 15 games.
Overall in the regular season, KD is averaging 27.1 points, .496 field, .385 trey, 7.1 rebounds, 4.2 assists.

KD is the yardstick, since this conversation was comparing the two....
And if you win MVP and never win Finals MVP (and after multiple attempts), you are clearly less suited to the NBA Finals than say a 2-time Finals MVP.
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Post#53 » by Impuniti » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:38 am

turnaroundJ wrote:they only have to swap wiggins for barnes now. throw in wiseman who says no?

the Warriors say no, that doesn't make any sense. I'm loving all these trade proposals from non-Warrior fans on how to make the team noticeably worse.
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Post#54 » by righterwriter » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:49 am

turnaroundJ wrote:they only have to swap wiggins for barnes now. throw in wiseman who says no?


The Warriors say no.
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Post#55 » by DIO » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:00 am

Read on Twitter

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Post#56 » by WarriorGM » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:01 am

K3nny Pow3rs wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Your stats prove Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Those stats are well below his best fg% and 3pt%, and below his best scoring.
Not that we needed to see those stats, we saw the Finals.
And that's why he never wins Finals MVP.


Why would one expect to see a player's best numbers in the finals when one assumes the competition is tougher? Because players raise their game? But that would suggest they weren't playing their best at other times wouldn't it?

Something about Curry that is underappreciated is that his level of play is consistently great throughout an entire season. Other players have dogged it in the regular season and just turn on for the playoffs. Why should that be considered better? In fact it's worse.

That's one reason the FMVP is an inferior award. But then you add all the other junk related to it and one wonders why anyone even brings it up. Bill Russell never won it. Magic received it instead of Kareem because Kareem wasn't available to receive it and the network didn't like that. It's the award for who the media wants the public to believe is the best player.

We did see the finals but it appears some people cannot process what they see unless the media tell them what it is.

But there are others like those chanting MVP tonight who know what their eyes are telling them.

Because KD produces the best shooting of his life when he plays NBA Finals, even when he lost to Miami, he averaged 30.6 points, .548 field, .394, all above his career averages, and the fg% is higher than he's ever shot in a season.

Overall in NBA Finals, KD is averaging 30.3 points, .546 field, .448 trey, 7.7 rebounds, 4.5 assists in 15 games.
Overall in the regular season, KD is averaging 27.1 points, .496 field, .385 trey, 7.1 rebounds, 4.2 assists.

KD is the yardstick, since this conversation was comparing the two....
And if you win MVP and never win Finals MVP (and after multiple attempts), you are clearly less suited to the NBA Finals than say a 2-time Finals MVP.


We can return to this subject when KD wins a finals without Curry.

I will always put a premium on the win rather than an interpretation of it by vested interests and the basketball acumen of Rachel Nichols (multiple times).
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Post#57 » by Edrees » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:08 am

Curry exposed jokes will never, ever get old. Keep em coming folks
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Post#58 » by Doctor MJ » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:10 am

Peregrine01 wrote:Fans see what we all see: a once-in-history type talent.


I think there's a solid chunk of folks who have somehow trained themselves not to see it.

It's amazing what polarization does to us.
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Post#59 » by Doctor MJ » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:17 am

Pennebaker wrote:I don't think it's Warriors fans. More like Steph fans.


At my work, they sometimes offer tickets to Clipper games.

The upcoming game against the Warriors offer came with a stern statement that anyone taking tickets is not allowed to cheer for the Warriors.

Good they did that because the Warriors were far are more popular than the Clippers during their 5-year run and that may well be roaring back to life, but not because of actual traditional "Warrior fans". They aren't worried about Bay Area transplants. :lol:
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Post#60 » by nfmos » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:29 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
cpower wrote:
K3nny Pow3rs wrote:Finals MVP is what its all about, and Curry rarely produces his best on the big stage.
Finals separates the men from the boys, and KD is the man in this relationship.

the man who would not have a ring without Curry? 8-)

The man who came into Curry's team, said "I'm the alpha", and took those two FMVPs.

Curry coulda had a chance at cracking top 15 players all time with a couple FMVPs. Instead, he went the easy route:

https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-news-bob-myers-credits-steph-currys-presence-for-swaying-kevin-durant/

Dude literally sat in the free agent meeting, "checked his ego" essentially saying "You can come and be the alpha, I'll be the Pippen", hence how KD won two FMVPs and bounced.


The same reason that Curry "checked his ego" at the door is the same reason Curry will always be better than Durant. He's selfless and humble, and team success is more important to him than hero ball. So he's fine playing off ball and never yells at teammates to pass it to him, and thats why he got a ring before Durant and will always raise his teams to levels above Durant. Durant is an incredible and legendary scorer, but Curry is more of a winner. Just look at the quality of teammates both have had; Curry has done more with less than Durant has had.

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