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Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis

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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#41 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 5:10 am

tradez401 wrote:grant for myles seems more realistic depending on what the pacers want to do.


Honestly, I think I'd prefer Myles.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/12/8/22823195/myles-turner-domatas-sabonis-indiana-pacers-trade-deadline
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#42 » by tradez401 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 6:52 am

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
tradez401 wrote:grant for myles seems more realistic depending on what the pacers want to do.


Honestly, I think I'd prefer Myles.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/12/8/22823195/myles-turner-domatas-sabonis-indiana-pacers-trade-deadline


he just makes alot of sense for this team a legit 6'11 rim protector, still young at 25 so he somewhat fit our youth timeline, capable at stretching the floor.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#43 » by DBC10 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 2:25 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
tradez401 wrote:grant for myles seems more realistic depending on what the pacers want to do.


Honestly, I think I'd prefer Myles.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/12/8/22823195/myles-turner-domatas-sabonis-indiana-pacers-trade-deadline


Sabonis is the real prize in terms of fit and sheer value. But Myles might not actually be bad for us either. Considering he'd already be better than our current center rotation by a healthy margin.

That and it'll take a bit less to get Myles over Sabonis
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#44 » by ComboGuardCity » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:24 pm

I’d rather try and trade lesser pieces for Myles. He’s in a Jerami Grant type situation and would make a great 2a.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#45 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:22 am

Seems highly, highly unlikely, but if we could grab Myles without losing Cade, Grant, or doing any first round pick swaps (since we can't outright trade a first anyway) it'd be a major coup and a core of Cade, Grant, Myles, and next year's first rounder would be a real solid core that could probably make the playoffs if it gelled.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#46 » by sfballa13 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:54 am

Kalamazoo317 wrote:Seems highly, highly unlikely, but if we could grab Myles without losing Cade, Grant, or doing any first round pick swaps (since we can't outright trade a first anyway) it'd be a major coup and a core of Cade, Grant, Myles, and next year's first rounder would be a real solid core that could probably make the playoffs if it gelled.


I dont know if Indiana would do it but I would move:

Grant, KO, and Killian for Myles and LeVert

Cade - LeVert - Bey - Stewart - Turner

Fun to watch, bad enough for a top 5 pick
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#47 » by Spider156 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:36 am

I think okc should go for Sabonis and give up three picks but I can see them giving two picks for Turner. If they don’t, not many teams have an asset like ours (frp) that they are willing to give up. I would trade our pick for Myles Turner but that’s about it. After that maybe add Josh jackson and the most to give up is Stewart. I would give up Stewart if pacers wanted a first round pick swap cuz we know they’ll be in the lottery too. Pretty good trade for both teams.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#48 » by pistons4ever » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:58 am

We are going to have a top 4 pick at least....so never i give this pick for turner....i thought bout a trade too...but you dont trade such a pick for an ok Player...of cause he is the best blocker and can strech the floor.. but such a pick together with ko or kilian must give you more....i had zion in mind cause he will never stay in NO ....perhaps towns although i find him soft....even jaren jackson would be better ....
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#49 » by 7r5ur » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:42 pm

Yeah, on no planet would I give up a likely top 5 pick for Myles Turner. That could end up catastrophically bad in a very short period of time.

A center who doesn't rebound, has a limited offensive game, and who would be an unrestricted FA after next season is absolutely NOT worth a top 10 pick. Not to mention, it sounds like he wants to be a go-to guy, which means whatever team he ends up on is almost guaranteed to be bad, because he just doesn't have that game.

I'd take him if it's a no-brainer type of deal, for sure, but this team is way too bad to be giving up 1st round picks unless it's for an absolute stud.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#50 » by Piston Pete » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:20 pm

Grant for Christian Wood??

Newsfeed says Rockets are open to trading Wood.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#51 » by 7r5ur » Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Grant for Christian Wood??

Newsfeed says Rockets are open to trading Wood.

Pretty sure the Rockets want to trade Wood so they can get back to tanking and gather a pick or two.

Also think there's basically no chance he comes back. Seems the relationship was not great.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#52 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:53 pm

If Portland's smart, they'll go after Wood. They're the most desperate right now for that kind of player.
We can't trade any first round picks until we convey one to Houston. Most we could do is a pick swap with Indiana, I believe.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#53 » by sfballa13 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:01 pm

The proposed deal on these forums - Grant for Pat Williams from the Bulls is another good one.

Williams is out for pretty much the rest of the season - pretty much guaranteeing us a top 3 pick

Grant gets to go to a top 3 team in the East so it's not like we traded him to a bottom feeder
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#54 » by bstein14 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:22 pm

sfballa13 wrote:The proposed deal on these forums - Grant for Pat Williams from the Bulls is another good one.

Williams is out for pretty much the rest of the season - pretty much guaranteeing us a top 3 pick

Grant gets to go to a top 3 team in the East so it's not like we traded him to a bottom feeder


Wouldn't be surprised to see the Rockets try to trade Wood for Patrick Williams. If the Bulls could get Wood and Gordon(for their 6th man) I think they'd become the favorites in the East.

Ball - LaVine - DeMar - Wood - Vucevic with a bench unit backcourt of Caruso and Gordon... they'd maybe just need one more good bench big from the Waiver wire towards the end of the season to make a playoff run.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#55 » by Canadafan » Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:17 am

bstein14 wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:The proposed deal on these forums - Grant for Pat Williams from the Bulls is another good one.

Williams is out for pretty much the rest of the season - pretty much guaranteeing us a top 3 pick

Grant gets to go to a top 3 team in the East so it's not like we traded him to a bottom feeder


Wouldn't be surprised to see the Rockets try to trade Wood for Patrick Williams. If the Bulls could get Wood and Gordon(for their 6th man) I think they'd become the favorites in the East.

Ball - LaVine - DeMar - Wood - Vucevic with a bench unit backcourt of Caruso and Gordon... they'd maybe just need one more good bench big from the Waiver wire towards the end of the season to make a playoff run.


That's alot of contract to match up for Chicago to take in....
Weaver was reportedly trying to trade up for Williams so would be nice to snag him
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#56 » by bstein14 » Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:27 am

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bstein14 wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:The proposed deal on these forums - Grant for Pat Williams from the Bulls is another good one.

Williams is out for pretty much the rest of the season - pretty much guaranteeing us a top 3 pick

Grant gets to go to a top 3 team in the East so it's not like we traded him to a bottom feeder


Wouldn't be surprised to see the Rockets try to trade Wood for Patrick Williams. If the Bulls could get Wood and Gordon(for their 6th man) I think they'd become the favorites in the East.

Ball - LaVine - DeMar - Wood - Vucevic with a bench unit backcourt of Caruso and Gordon... they'd maybe just need one more good bench big from the Waiver wire towards the end of the season to make a playoff run.


That's alot of contract to match up for Chicago to take in....
Weaver was reportedly trying to trade up for Williams so would be nice to snag him


For sure I didn't look but Gordon is still making a decent amount. I wouldn't have thought he is still making $18 million per year. Bulls wouldn't have interest in him at that money. He's been scoring a very efficient 15 PPG for Houston and still looking good at 32 years of age, but not good enough for that money to be a backup unless he's the last piece to a championship team.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#57 » by MotownMadness » Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:38 am

Could see Grant going to Chicago. He would be attainable for them and fits right into their starting lineup as the missing piece (lol).
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#58 » by DET_Athletics » Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:51 am

Is Patrick Williams, Coby white, Troy Brown and Portland pick this year too much to ask for Grant? I think that's a fair trade, Bulls get their last piece to go after a championship, grant has another year on his deal and all they have to do is bring back Lavine and they get two shots at the title. We get the prospects we want, land a big in the draft and we are off to the races. Personally, I would love to get Banchero and Bamba to put in the starting lineup.


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SG: Cade/Draft Pick or 1 of Jackson's
Sf: Bey / Patrick William
Pf: Draft Pick / Olynk
C: Free agent / Stewart



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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#59 » by Sort » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:18 pm

DET_Athletics wrote:Is Patrick Williams, Coby white, Troy Brown and Portland pick this year too much to ask for Grant? I think that's a fair trade, Bulls get their last piece to go after a championship, grant has another year on his deal and all they have to do is bring back Lavine and they get two shots at the title. We get the prospects we want, land a big in the draft and we are off to the races. Personally, I would love to get Banchero and Bamba to put in the starting lineup.


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SG: Cade/Draft Pick or 1 of Jackson's
Sf: Bey / Patrick William
Pf: Draft Pick / Olynk
C: Free agent / Stewart



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Probably a little much to think Pistons can nab Coby, Williams and then a first to boot. I do like the Patrick Williams angle as that it makes sense for both teams, but I suspect Chicago values him too much. More likely of an offer will be based around the pick and Coby White. Pistons can probably do better.

To go back for a moment to the idea of Grant for Sabonis and LeVert, it's definitely a no. LeVert is another iso heavy guy who isn't efficient. Please, we need no more of that. You do have to wonder with Sabonis. H'es clearly skilled, but he just doesn't seem to have much of a game that supports the players around him enough to justify having him on your team, especially as such a mediocre to bad defender.

Myles makes so much more sense for the Pistons. He fits with Cade in the pick n pop/ pick n roll tremendously well and he offers legitimate rebounding and interior defense, and Beef Stew/Myles four/five should give some release valve for Beef Stew and give a tremendous front court defense. That I like.

That said, matching Sabonis and Grant together just doesn't make much sense for Indiana. Two to tangle.
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Re: Trade Idea: Grant for Sabonis 

Post#60 » by Kilo » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:23 pm

Weaver would do Jerami Grant for Patrick Williams and ballast straight up. Chicago wouldn't.
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