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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#41 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:25 pm

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JustLucky wrote:I think people take records a little too far with these selections. tyler hero and jarret allen as allstars is a little cringe over guys putting up much better stats on 26-25 teams
Wut?

Allen is putting up 16 PPG 11 RPG 1.4 BPG 0.8 SPG on 69% FG on the 3 seed in the East and the game is CLE...

There is no reason a guy fighting for a play-in spot chucking on low efficiency deserves a spot just because he averages 24 PPG lol

Make the argument for Allen over LaMelo Ball.
Not sure I have to as 1 is a back court and the other is a front court.

Unless in your mind they're fighting for the 12th spot, which is a wild card. Even then, Ball can have it. If Garland or Allen are snubbed by the 15 East head coaches, I almost guarantee Silver picks a Cav as KD's injury replacement because the game is in CLE. Being a top 3 seed in the East helps too.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#42 » by King4Day » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:34 pm

Golden Knight wrote:Jared Jeffries :lol:


Reminded me of this lol

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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#43 » by yoyoboy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:09 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
JustLucky wrote:I think people take records a little too far with these selections. tyler hero and jarret allen as allstars is a little cringe over guys putting up much better stats on 26-25 teams
Wut?

Allen is putting up 16 PPG 11 RPG 1.4 BPG 0.8 SPG on 69% FG on the 3 seed in the East and the game is CLE...

There is no reason a guy fighting for a play-in spot chucking on low efficiency deserves a spot just because he averages 24 PPG lol

Make the argument for Allen over LaMelo Ball.

Allen is 1.3x more efficient as a scorer than Ball with a TS% above 70% while Ball is below league average scoring efficiency. He’s in another world as a defender, serving as the rim protector of the #3 defense with easily the best opponent FG% in the restricted area. He’s the most or second most valuable player (depending on who you ask) on a team that’s performed significantly better than the Hornets, as the Hornets have a below average #16 ranked SRS at +0.23 while the Cavs’ 5.34 SRS ranks #4 in the league. Finally, Allen outperforms Ball clearly in every single available impact metric across the board.

RAPM:
Ball: -0.25 (#356)
Allen: +1.58 (#58)

EPM:
Ball: +2.8 (#39)
Allen: +4.8 (#11)

LEBRON:
Ball: +1.30 (#66)
Allen: +3.32 (#10)

BPM:
Ball: +3.7 (#23)
Allen: +4.3 (#20)

RAPTOR:
Ball: +2.4 (#53)
Allen: +4.4 (#15)

DRIP:
Ball: +1.5 (#66)
Allen: +1.9 (#45)

DPM:
Ball: +1.0 (#87)
Allen: +1.8 (#46)

If anything, it seems crazy to try to make the argument that Ball has been better than Allen this season.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#44 » by mcgrady_1 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:25 pm

Even though i believe he falls a bit short this year, LaMelo Ball seems like the perfect type player who'll make the ASG super entertaining.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#45 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:41 pm

No idea why AD gets mentioned
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#46 » by Dacost » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:49 pm

_AIJ_ wrote:No idea why AD gets mentioned
plays for the Lakers.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#47 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:51 pm

mcgrady_1 wrote:Even though i believe he falls a bit short this year, LaMelo Ball seems like the perfect type player who'll make the ASG super entertaining.
8 spots left in the East, he's in, imo. Only way he misses it is if the 15 East coaches handout lifetime achievements to multiple guys, Beal and Sabonias, I'm looking at you.
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Post#48 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:05 pm

miamiballer wrote:If and when herro makes it this place will go nuts

He’s quietly averaging over 20 ppg off the bench on super high efficiency for the #1 seed in the East


Bench players very rarely make all-star teams.

I actually checked that once. Ginobili did it. At least one of Detlef Schrempf and/or Dennis Rodman did. McHale may have the last year before he was a starter.

And I think that's it for the past 40 years.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#49 » by Bornstellar » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:22 pm

Durant is out, so I'm gonna guess that DeMar takes his spot and Butler is named a starter instead. I also am unsure if Luka is considered a forward or guard? This also assumes Draymond will be out bec

East:
Guard: Jimmy Butler
Guard: Trae Young
Frontcourt: DeMar DeRozan
Frontcourt: Giannis Antetokounmpo
Frontcourt: Joel Embiid
Reserves
Guard: Zach Lavine
Guard: James Harden
Frontcourt: Jarrett Allen
Frontcourt: Jayson Tatum
Frontcourt: Miles Bridges
Wildcard: Fred VanVleet
Wildcard: LaMelo Ball


West:
Guard: Stephen Curry
Guard: Ja Morant
Frontcourt: LeBron James
Frontcourt: Nikola Jokic
Frontcourt: Andrew Wiggins
Reserves
Guard: Devin Booker
Guard: Chris Paul
Frontcourt: Rudy Gobert
Frontcourt: Karl Anthony-Towns (*Draymond Green replacement)
Frontcourt: Luka Doncic
Wildcard: Donovan Mitchell
Wildcard: DeJounte Murray


And yes I know Murray is a longshot because of his record but my man's putting up 19/8.4/9/2 a game and is top 10 in a/t ratio (while having a higher usage than everyone above him besides CP3). #4 in APG and the current SPG leader. Put some respeck on his name
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#50 » by Lenneth » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:41 pm

For the West, Paul, Booker, Gobert, Mitchell, Towns, and Luka seem to be obvious.
For the last slot, I thought Green would make it. But with his injury, he will either not be selected or be selected and replaced.
Ayaton, Davis, or Edwards?
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#51 » by panthermark » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:45 pm

mcgrady_1 wrote:Even though i believe he falls a bit short this year, LaMelo Ball seems like the perfect type player who'll make the ASG super entertaining.

I think he will make it.

I think DeRozen will replace Durant, and a guard (hopefully Lavine) will into the starting line-up.

I also agree that LaMelo seems like a ASG type player...which is part of why I want Lavine starting.

I honestly don't want to watch DeRozen mid-range pump-fake and fall down his way to the FT line. Just like I don't want to watch Harden (or to an extent Young). But I would LOVE to watch a (LaMelo) Ball/Lavine back-court in an All-Star game.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#52 » by bisme37 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

I believe Tatum automatically becomes the replacement starter for KD since he was the next leading vote getter among East frontcourt players. That's the way they usually do it at least. Silver names the replacement but he doesn't want to play favorites or overrule the vote, so he just promotes the next guy in the voting.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#53 » by floppymoose » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pm

Jeffries (and Novak) were ballin' back in the Linsanity moment, though, back when Melo was out. Those guys were capable role players who just needed a team player to be running the offense.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#54 » by Patsfan1081 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:21 am

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Shy Gorgeous-Al wrote:Rofl... Darius Garland is being disrespected so much by the fans and the media it seems.

He is the biggest reason the Cavs have a 30-19 record.


I don't know what some of the players/media were doing with their votes, but Garland at 5th (players) and 6th (media) is pretty fair. The fans (9th) probably could have done better, but he still wouldn't have been starting.

Tatum being 6th and 4th compared to Siakam at 10th and not even placing in the media is whack. Their teams have almost identical records and their stats are very similar (Tatum scores 5 more points on 4 more FGA and Siakam gets 1.5 more assists while everything else including efficiency and numerous advanced stats paint them in the same light). It must just be because Tatum is only 19 years old though.


Every single advanced stat (PER,Vorp, box, ect…) favors Tatum and he might have had the worst half of basketball in his career. People have to be reminded every year that its a all star game, not a “my team has the best record and I have good advanced stats game.” Fans want to see star players, spmone averaging a assist a game more only matters when youre trying to make a srguement for your own teams players….
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#55 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:52 am

bisme37 wrote:I believe Tatum automatically becomes the replacement starter for KD since he was the next leading vote getter among East frontcourt players. That's the way they usually do it at least. Silver names the replacement but he doesn't want to play favorites or overrule the vote, so he just promotes the next guy in the voting.

Idk, Kerr picked three starters in 2015.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#56 » by bisme37 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:22 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
bisme37 wrote:I believe Tatum automatically becomes the replacement starter for KD since he was the next leading vote getter among East frontcourt players. That's the way they usually do it at least. Silver names the replacement but he doesn't want to play favorites or overrule the vote, so he just promotes the next guy in the voting.

Idk, Kerr picked three starters in 2015.
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That was 7 years ago and the old ASG format. Kerr named starters right before the game. Now they have to know the starters in advance so the captains can pick their teams. In fact Tatum was a starter last year under the exact circumstances. KD was injured and JT was the 4th leading vote getter.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#57 » by Johnny Tomala » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:41 am

bisme37 wrote:I believe Tatum automatically becomes the replacement starter for KD since he was the next leading vote getter among East frontcourt players. That's the way they usually do it at least. Silver names the replacement but he doesn't want to play favorites or overrule the vote, so he just promotes the next guy in the voting.


No, Tatum doesn't become a starter for KD. Coaches vote for reserves. Then coach of East All-Stars will pick starter for Team Durant in ASG.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#58 » by srhcan » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:44 am

In East:
* Heat should get 2 all-stars (Butler and Herro)
* Bulls should get 2 all-stars (Derozen and Lavine)
* Cavs should get 2 all-stars (Garland and Allen)
* Nets should get 2 all-stars (Durant and Harden)
* 76ers should get 1 all-star (Embiid)
* Bucks should get 1 all-star (Giannis)

So only 2 spots left. 1 should be Melo/Bridges. So for the last spot choose either Fred, Siakam or Tatum.
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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#59 » by spanishninja » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:47 am

Lenneth wrote:For the West, Paul, Booker, Gobert, Mitchell, Towns, and Luka seem to be obvious.
For the last slot, I thought Green would make it. But with his injury, he will either not be selected or be selected and replaced.
Ayaton, Davis, or Edwards?
i would honestly give it to edwards in that situation. ayton has missed too many games

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Re: 2022 All-Star reserves? 

Post#60 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:00 am

bisme37 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
bisme37 wrote:I believe Tatum automatically becomes the replacement starter for KD since he was the next leading vote getter among East frontcourt players. That's the way they usually do it at least. Silver names the replacement but he doesn't want to play favorites or overrule the vote, so he just promotes the next guy in the voting.

Idk, Kerr picked three starters in 2015.
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That was 7 years ago and the old ASG format. Kerr named starters right before the game. Now they have to know the starters in advance so the captains can pick their teams. In fact Tatum was a starter last year under the exact circumstances. KD was injured and JT was the 4th leading vote getter.
From last seasons game it says, "NBA Commissioner Adam Silver selected replacements for any player unable to participate in the All-Star Game, choosing a player from the same conference as the player who was being replaced. Silver's selection joined the team that drafted the replaced player. If a replaced player was a starter, the head coach of that team would choose a new starter from their cast of players instead".

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