Prime Shaq vs Prime Embiid

Ursusamericanus · Post #41 » by **Ursusamericanus** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:19 am

Closer comparison might be Embiid vs. Ewing.

Topofthekey · Post #42 » by **Topofthekey** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:08 am

Thanks OP, I needed the laugh

Sothron · Post #43 » by **Sothron** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:18 am

Give me the Magic Shaq before he got fat in LA. That dude was a freak almost on the level of Wilt. He is on another tier than Embiid.

LAL1947 · Post #44 » by **LAL1947** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:20 am

The results here are going to be lopsided because Shaq was a beast. In an actual game, I can see it being closer than the results will indicate though. Embiid is more skilled, better shooter, smarter and might just be big enough to help keep Shaq at bay in the paint. He's also got the flop mastery to get Shaq in foul trouble... and you can't hack-a-Shaq him since he converts his free throws.

Then there's also the Kobe factor. Kobe helped Shaq win the titles that had previously eluded him. Having these titles will be counted in his favor, since Embiid doesn't have any yet. But does Embiid + Kobe win as many titles as Shaq + Kobe? I think they might win more than 3 titles TBH, if Embiid doesn't become as lazy as Shaq after winning three.

Dubnation · Post #45 » by **Dubnation** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:30 am

RoundMoundOfRebound wrote:

Post #46 » by **dockingsched** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:30 am

Embiid vs Yao would’ve been fun. That’s more even.

RoundMoundOfRebound · Post #47 » by **RoundMoundOfRebound** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:50 am

Dubnation wrote:
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RoundMoundOfRebound wrote:

RoundMoundOfReb · Post #48 » by **RoundMoundOfReb** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:01 am

lmao Shaq was doing what he was doing when teams were scoring like 86 points a game

gorz · Post #49 » by **gorz** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:49 am

Slim Charlez wrote:
gorz wrote:As physically dominant as Shaq was still feel he's one of the most overrated greats. He wouldn't have won a three peat without kobe for sure. Kobe bailed him out so many times bc he was a liabiity to make free throws not to mention drew alot of attention/focus from opposing teams which made it even more difficult to guard shaq.. Put current Embiid next to kobe barring injuries they are winning multiple titles. Skillwise shaq is below Embiid or Jokic. Embiid is one of the all time greats and could technically be a two time mvp.

No he isn't. Shaq probably deserved more than the one he got but it's disrespectful to Shaq comparing him to embiid as good as embiid is, Shaq was on another level.

I agree Shaq deserved more than 1 mvp.
Embiid mvp regular season this year is greater than Shaqs peak regular season. Highest ppg average in fewest mpg most +40 10 games since the merger. The original premise is comparison based on their peak not their career resume. Shaq had the great fortune of playing alongside great 2 guards penny kobe wade his whole career. Embiid had Ben freaking simmons and the shell of James Harden.

VDT · Post #50 » by **VDT** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:14 am

Completely different playstyles and obviously Shaq has the much better resume. Still, without prime Kobe, Penny and Wade Shaq's playoff runs werent that remarkable despite the good individual numbers.

Statlanta · Post #51 » by **Statlanta** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:21 am

Embiid is probably more comparable to 2004 and 2005 Shaq. Otherwise this thread is a complete non-starter.

Lockdown504090 · Post #52 » by **Lockdown504090** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:35 am

Giannis is the modern shaq, Joel is an amazing player though

Ugalde · Post #53 » by **Ugalde** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:43 am

i get some people do say that but shaq prime is the goat so no embiid ain’t even close.

Ugalde · Post #54 » by **Ugalde** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:44 am

gorz wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
gorz wrote:As physically dominant as Shaq was still feel he's one of the most overrated greats. He wouldn't have won a three peat without kobe for sure. Kobe bailed him out so many times bc he was a liabiity to make free throws not to mention drew alot of attention/focus from opposing teams which made it even more difficult to guard shaq.. Put current Embiid next to kobe barring injuries they are winning multiple titles. Skillwise shaq is below Embiid or Jokic. Embiid is one of the all time greats and could technically be a two time mvp.

No he isn't. Shaq probably deserved more than the one he got but it's disrespectful to Shaq comparing him to embiid as good as embiid is, Shaq was on another level.

I agree Shaq deserved more than 1 mvp.
Embiid mvp regular season this year is greater than Shaqs peak regular season. Highest ppg average in fewest mpg most +40 10 games since the merger. The original premise is comparison based on their peak not their career resume. Shaq had the great fortune of playing alongside great 2 guards penny kobe wade his whole career. Embiid had Ben freaking simmons and the shell of James Harden.

i was about to type a giant rebuttal to this then i realized this guy thinks embiid is in the same world as shaq lol. total waste of time.

MrBigShot · Post #55 » by **MrBigShot** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:17 pm

C'mon now. Come playoff time there is zero comparison between Shaq and Embiid. Shaq was casually dropping like 35/18 in the finals.

gorz · Post #56 » by **gorz** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:33 pm

Ugalde wrote:
gorz wrote:
Slim Charlez wrote:
No he isn't. Shaq probably deserved more than the one he got but it's disrespectful to Shaq comparing him to embiid as good as embiid is, Shaq was on another level.

I agree Shaq deserved more than 1 mvp.
Embiid mvp regular season this year is greater than Shaqs peak regular season. Highest ppg average in fewest mpg most +40 10 games since the merger. The original premise is comparison based on their peak not their career resume. Shaq had the great fortune of playing alongside great 2 guards penny kobe wade his whole career. Embiid had Ben freaking simmons and the shell of James Harden.

i was about to type a giant rebuttal to this then i realized this guy thinks embiid is in the same world as shaq lol. total waste of time.

This doesn't speak how "low" I think of shaq it says more how low some here think of Embiid. I've watched Shaqs prime years in LA he wasn't worlds better than Embiid. Embiid is an all time great himself as much it pains some here to admit.

KembaWalker · Post #57 » by **KembaWalker** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:37 pm

Embiid would hold his own for about a quarter before Shaq broke him. Physically and mentally

GSP · Post #58 » by **GSP** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:44 pm

This poll is killing me lmaoooooo most lopsided ever

Post #59 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:02 pm

Embiid’s awesome and definitely could’ve hung in any era. But Shaq bent the whole league, they changed the rules because of him. He could’ve averaged 40/20 if he wanted to.

IamBBAnalysis · Post #60 » by **IamBBAnalysis** » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:50 pm

gorz wrote:As physically dominant as Shaq was still feel he's one of the most overrated greats. He wouldn't have won a three peat without kobe for sure. Kobe bailed him out so many times bc he was a liabiity to make free throws not to mention drew alot of attention/focus from opposing teams which made it even more difficult to guard shaq.. Put current Embiid next to kobe barring injuries they are winning multiple titles. Skillwise shaq is below Embiid or Jokic. Embiid is one of the all time greats and could technically be a two time mvp.

And when he went to the finals with Orlando? And when he also won a ring in Miami? Shaq always was on winning teams. Terrible post.

Who do you want on your team for a 5 year apex?