How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today?

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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#41 » by RipHamilton » Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:30 pm

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Dutchball97 wrote:I'd rather have Luka, Curry, Lillard, SGA, Morant, Harden, Kyrie, Mitchell, Haliburton, Jrue, Booker, Garland and Trae than peak Parker.


No way mate. Are you smoking something? Or you simply can't think properly? You must be one of those kids who think NBA nowadays is better than any other era, just because players now are stronger and faster (and have more tatoos), but the majority of players nowadays have low basketball IQ, and can't do anything more than run and shot.


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Someone was born on the wrong side of the bed, to think Haliburton or Garland are better than prime Tony Parker.

Were you born in 1997 as your nickname implies? That would explain all, you watched Parker winning MVP finals with 10 years old. I understand everything now.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#42 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:47 pm

Probably even better now. His floater is still a bucket in either era.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#43 » by dooki667 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:12 pm

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Dutchball97 wrote:I'd rather have Luka, Curry, Lillard, SGA, Morant, Harden, Kyrie, Mitchell, Haliburton, Jrue, Booker, Garland and Trae than peak Parker.


No way mate. Are you smoking something? Or you simply can't think properly? You must be one of those kids who think NBA nowadays is better than any other era, just because players now are stronger and faster (and have more tatoos), but the majority of players nowadays have low basketball IQ, and can't do anything more than run and shot.

Parker is history of the NBA. He has proven to be key to winning championships. He is a winner. He was fast, clever, full of quality, great mid-range shot, great finisher. Prime Parker would be a pain in the ass in today's nba.

Any great offensive player in the past, would be a better player nowadays. As simple as that. Today's NBA is easier to score, easier to be an offensive player.

Haliburton? Garland? They have a lot to prove to look Parker in the eye. They are kids, nothing proven yet. Even SGA and Morant? Still they have to prove they can be winners. They are stronger and better physically, but quite far in quality and IQ. They have accomplished ****.

Jrue? Not the quality of Parker, great player, though.

Curry and Luka are clearly ahead of Parker. Booker is not a PG so I don't consider this comparison.

Parkers last year was the 18-19 season I highly doubt anyone thinks players have gotten faster stronger in 3-4 years
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#44 » by RipHamilton » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:46 pm

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Dutchball97 wrote:I'd rather have Luka, Curry, Lillard, SGA, Morant, Harden, Kyrie, Mitchell, Haliburton, Jrue, Booker, Garland and Trae than peak Parker.


No way mate. Are you smoking something? Or you simply can't think properly? You must be one of those kids who think NBA nowadays is better than any other era, just because players now are stronger and faster (and have more tatoos), but the majority of players nowadays have low basketball IQ, and can't do anything more than run and shot.

Parker is history of the NBA. He has proven to be key to winning championships. He is a winner. He was fast, clever, full of quality, great mid-range shot, great finisher. Prime Parker would be a pain in the ass in today's nba.

Any great offensive player in the past, would be a better player nowadays. As simple as that. Today's NBA is easier to score, easier to be an offensive player.

Haliburton? Garland? They have a lot to prove to look Parker in the eye. They are kids, nothing proven yet. Even SGA and Morant? Still they have to prove they can be winners. They are stronger and better physically, but quite far in quality and IQ. They have accomplished ****.

Jrue? Not the quality of Parker, great player, though.

Curry and Luka are clearly ahead of Parker. Booker is not a PG so I don't consider this comparison.

Parkers last year was the 18-19 season I highly doubt anyone thinks players have gotten faster stronger in 3-4 years


Is just not 3-4 years. Parker has 17 years more than Morant or Shai. They belong to different eras. They have grown up with a different style of basketball. Today's basketball is more physical and more individual and less tactical than the basketball of 20 years ago. In general, of course. There are always exceptions
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#45 » by ShazamDaShiznt » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:53 pm

He'd be averaging about 3 married wives per season.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#46 » by cupcakesnake » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:57 pm

I think he'd be a mix of Fox and Brunson. Fast like Fox with Bruson's crafty interior finishing.

There were times when Parker's scoring was one of the deadliest weapons in playoff basketball. From 2006-2009 he was an absolute menace who's game scaled up to the highest level.

Had Parker played on less talented teams, I think he would have been a big-time scorer. But we'd complain way more about his defense and playmaking.

He was a below-average 3-point shooter in terms of both efficiency and volume, so scaling for era imagine him being a 35% career 3-pt shooter on 3 attempts per game. (In his actual era he was 32% on 1 attempt). I don't think people need to be reasonable when they dock players for lower 3-point emphasis.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#47 » by Dino353 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:01 am

Thing is we never really saw him play without Duncan and Pop at his side except for those last few years with Kawhi at the helm. In his prime I'd take him over every point guard not named Curry and probably Luka.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#48 » by Ayt » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:36 am

Pelly24 wrote:
picc wrote:'23 Ja Morant: 33% 3pt
'23 De'Aaron Fox: 32% 3pt

But Tony Parker can't flourish in today's spaced out NBA because he wasn't a sharpshooter.

Dude would eviscerate the rim today. He had a billion points in the paint with the Spurs spacing. In a five out offense with his finishing ability and speed? :lol:


I saw some stat that indicated that Tony had 575 at-rim attempts in like 85 games (including playoffs) in 2012. That's such a huge amount it dwarfs any guard today. He was maybe the fastest guard of his era. With today's spacing? look out


Yep. And he was playing with Duncan at PF and Tiago Splitter. Duncan was obviously a monster overall, but he wasn't a huge threat to space the floor. It isn't hard to imagine Parker with even more space with a floor stretching PF and more of a lob threat or outside shooting threat at C.

Hell, just place him on the current Nets instead of Dinwiddie at PG. They have tons of shooters and a nice lob threat in Claxton. He'd feast and they'd be great defensively.
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Post#49 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:44 am

Kind of weird for Parker to fall off immediately after Duncan retired considering he was like 6/7 years younger. Makes you think his success was very closely tied to Duncan.
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Post#50 » by Onlytimewilltel » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:46 am

He'd probably still cheat on his wife with his teammates wifes if he was in his prime...easy answer
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#51 » by dk1115 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:53 am

Despite him being a HOF, I always thought of him as a borderline all-star.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#52 » by Ayt » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:59 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Kind of weird for Parker to fall off immediately after Duncan retired considering he was like 6/7 years younger. Makes you think his success was very closely tied to Duncan.


It makes you think he was a small guard who was 34 years old at that point and had played a ton of minutes after entering the NBA at 19 while playing in the playoffs every season. Still, he was better in the playoffs the season after Duncan than he was his last season with Duncan.

I also wouldn't say he "fell off immediately." His regular season numbers declined a bit which isn't unexpected for a PG his age.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#53 » by Dutchball97 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:25 am

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Dutchball97 wrote:
RipHamilton wrote:
No way mate. Are you smoking something? Or you simply can't think properly? You must be one of those kids who think NBA nowadays is better than any other era, just because players now are stronger and faster (and have more tatoos), but the majority of players nowadays have low basketball IQ, and can't do anything more than run and shot.


Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.


Someone was born on the wrong side of the bed, to think Haliburton or Garland are better than prime Tony Parker.

Were you born in 1997 as your nickname implies? That would explain all, you watched Parker winning MVP finals with 10 years old. I understand everything now.


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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#54 » by HMFFL » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:01 pm

art_tatum wrote:Couldn't really shoot threes until post prime.
I doubt he ever averaged one three point attempt per game in his career.

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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#55 » by HMFFL » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:13 pm

Tony has a career high 55 points. I don't believe many players in the league have scored that many points in a game so he would do just fine.

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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#56 » by OdomFan » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:56 pm

Put him with the Spurs and he'd be just as good. I think that's all it would take. Him in Pops system with a quality 2 guard next to him that can keep up and score. That shouldn't be too hard to get.
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Re: How Good Would Prime Tony Parker Be Today? 

Post#57 » by SK21209 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:33 pm

Parker was 2nd Team All NBA from 2012-2014 and 3rd Team in 2009. That is pretty damn good. He’s probably put up gaudier stats today with better spacing, he played most of his minutes with Duncan and another big in the paint.

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