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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#41 » by gigantes » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:37 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Y’all are truly wildin’ smh…
NetsWorld wrote:Some of you guys seriously need chill pills. Nets are probably going to finish 6 so I’m sure the rotations out there are to prep for the playoffs and develop chemistry

Seriously. It's way too early to be freaking out or drawing rash conclusions.

The idea that the Nets are a classic treadmill team is beyond absurd.

CamT seems to have a pretty enormous ego, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he's been resisting JV on stuff, and Jacques is for the moment saying: 'show me you're willing to work with me, and you can have minutes.' If so, it's a pretty classic situation, and doesn't in the least mean that the Nets have forgotten about him or don't value him.

Maybe Curry is getting the minutes he is because we still don't have a true PG, and he can do some things as a PG sub that aren't so much Widdie's strengths. Agree, it would be nice to see more of Sumner, tho.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#42 » by sashaturiaf » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:51 am

JoseRizal wrote:How will our organization be perceived? Not competent enough to handle Superstars and not good enough to develop young players?

We're a classic example of a treadmill team.


Spot on evaluation of the current Nets.

I've observed Marks/Tsai long enough to know these guys don't really have a cohesive vision in place. It's reactionary move after reactionary move.

Burying Cam for free agent to be Seth and Sharpe behind proven scrub Noel is classic Nets.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#43 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:51 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Y’all are truly wildin’ smh…

It is funny sometimes coming here after the game and seeing reactions from the start of it. Of course I'm yelling at my tv 6 minutes into the game... but we're just all so reactionary especially as Nets fans. :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#44 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:57 am

Keith Van Horn wrote:what I'm looking for tonight is consistency and stable play. I know that might be a big ask, but look at the last 2 games. Huge comeback win v Celtics... that stuff happens for us once every few years. Hornets, blew massive lead.

Can we show some consistency this game? Come out strong each quarter and maintain our style of play?
Mikal has been balling and it seems like the team is gelling a bit here.

So we came out a little flat and gave up a lot of easy baskets, but definitely found our way as time went on.

I love seeing Bridges get to the line a lot, but I want more. I'm sure that'll come over time. CJ was bricking a lot tonight. Clax has been such a bright spot this year. Joe was hitting his shots for a stretch there. Welcome to the Nets Nerlens... now stop fouling so much lol.

No Cam Thomas... coach's decision? yeesh.

Glad we were able to keep our cool and build a lead and pretty much maintain it against this team. Ain't laughing at the Rockets, those guys are young and got nothing to lose, so happy the Nets showed up tonight.

I just wish we got to see some more Yuta and less DFS. Maybe it's time to start Royce again?

Din/Royce/Bridges/CJ/Clax

Seth/Joe/Cam/DFS/Yuta/Noel

Don't know why we can't keep 11 fresh... I get it that the postseason is approaching... but is it really?? :roll: :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#45 » by Papi_swav » Wed Mar 8, 2023 4:02 am

Bridges is really that guy !!! He took over in the 4th, he throws those lob passes to Claxton better then our point guard does. I've been saying we need to play O'neale more than DFS, he's just better.
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Post#46 » by Shark » Wed Mar 8, 2023 4:07 am

It was good seeing Clax being more involved on the offensive end. There's no reason he should be frozen out.
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Post#47 » by gigantes » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:47 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:How will our organization be perceived? Not competent enough to handle Superstars and not good enough to develop young players?

We're a classic example of a treadmill team.

Spot on evaluation of the current Nets.

I've observed Marks/Tsai long enough to know these guys don't really have a cohesive vision in place. It's reactionary move after reactionary move.

Burying Cam for free agent to be Seth and Sharpe behind proven scrub Noel is classic Nets.

IMO Noel is more effective than Sharpe at this point, and I'm not sure Sharpe has any significant future in the NBA.

As for the rest, it's like you guys are completely throwing out history & massive amounts of context in order to complain about something that doesn't actually exist. Seems pretty weird to me.
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Post#48 » by Sharcm1 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 11:46 am

I’m glad to see everyone seems to agree with me that they need to play the young guys and develop them. We played Allen and levert and developed them. Play cam. Yes he’s young and will make mistakes but now is the time to play him.
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Post#49 » by therealbig3 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:59 pm

gigantes wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:How will our organization be perceived? Not competent enough to handle Superstars and not good enough to develop young players?

We're a classic example of a treadmill team.

Spot on evaluation of the current Nets.

I've observed Marks/Tsai long enough to know these guys don't really have a cohesive vision in place. It's reactionary move after reactionary move.

Burying Cam for free agent to be Seth and Sharpe behind proven scrub Noel is classic Nets.

IMO Noel is more effective than Sharpe at this point, and I'm not sure Sharpe has any significant future in the NBA.

As for the rest, it's like you guys are completely throwing out history & massive amounts of context in order to complain about something that doesn't actually exist. Seems pretty weird to me.


As if Cam and Sharpe haven't proven to be scrubs at this current point in time themselves. Seth and Noel are simply better players as of right now, and also as of right now, we are still a playoff team, with a chance to put some wins together and get some chemistry going. Teams in that position don't sacrifice wins for player development. Cam and Sharpe have a whole off-season to improve their games and earn their playing time.

We just put three straight wins together and Bridges is looking like a legitimate All-Star moving forward, with a bunch of good players around him. Dinwiddie has been playing better too and looking more like the guy we had before. Things are actually looking promising, and people want more Marshon Brooks 2.0 and Dulle :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#50 » by Tha King » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:06 pm

Shark wrote:It was good seeing Clax being more involved on the offensive end. There's no reason he should be frozen out.

the way he moves and can create off the dribble is so unique. He just needs to get stronger to be able to do that consistently.
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Post#51 » by Eatgreenz » Wed Mar 8, 2023 2:38 pm

Cam is more talented than seth yes. But contributing to winning bball seth is better. Cam still has ways to go.
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Post#52 » by Karate Diop » Wed Mar 8, 2023 4:39 pm

Shark wrote:It was good seeing Clax being more involved on the offensive end. There's no reason he should be frozen out.


He's probably the one player on the roster that could really benefit from a true pass-first playmaker. There's very little roll action right now, would be a nice offensive wrinkle to have.
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Post#53 » by Tha King » Wed Mar 8, 2023 7:22 pm

Karate Diop wrote:
Shark wrote:It was good seeing Clax being more involved on the offensive end. There's no reason he should be frozen out.


He's probably the one player on the roster that could really benefit from a true pass-first playmaker. There's very little roll action right now, would be a nice offensive wrinkle to have.

Agree. There could be some buy low opportunities this offseason (Lonzo, Fultz).
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Post#54 » by Tha King » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:03 pm

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Shark wrote:It was good seeing Clax being more involved on the offensive end. There's no reason he should be frozen out.

the way he moves and can create off the dribble is so unique. He just needs to get stronger to be able to do that consistently.

just to add to this - there was a play in the third where he played drop coverage very well and got a steal from Green near the basket then with sudden quickness he went the other way where he eventually got KJ Martin on an in and out hesi and converted a contested layup.

There is rarely any wasted movement when he dribbles and his first step and touch around the basket is guard like. There is so much potential for him offensively, even without a jumper.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#55 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:17 pm

I think its time to realize Bridges is a legitimate star.

The question is how can we maximize his talents over the next few years? What can we do to get in the Championship conversation?

Does it seem that Bridges can be the best player on a title level team?

No. But he fits the profile to a tee. Hes an elite level wing player that is good on both ends. Hes a 3 level scorer.

Yes he needs to improve things like finishing and passing for sure. But hes really good.

If you get another high level star to pair with him then the sky is the limit.
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Post#56 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 8:52 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think its time to realize Bridges is a legitimate star.

The question is how can we maximize his talents over the next few years? What can we do to get in the Championship conversation?

Does it seem that Bridges can be the best player on a title level team?

No. But he fits the profile to a tee. Hes an elite level wing player that is good on both ends. Hes a 3 level scorer.

Yes he needs to improve things like finishing and passing for sure. But hes really good.

If you get another high level star to pair with him then the sky is the limit.


I can see Bridges as first option , he can become what Kawhi was on Toronto team , it’s hard to say who was first option on that team , Kawhi Lowry or Siakam ? It’s hard to say who was their clear no 1
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Post#57 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 9:01 pm

Eatgreenz wrote:Cam is more talented than seth yes. But contributing to winning bball seth is better. Cam still has ways to go.


On a contender yes , with KD Kyrie I’ll take Seth over Cam

With our current situation, we not contenders anymore , Seth will be gone in three months , we cockblocking ourselves giving him minutes over Cam

Because of that I can see situation where both is moved in off-season and then Cam gonna take the next step on another team and all gonna cry what a talent we gave up for nothing

Guess what , to be sure what Cam is ( will be ) now it’s the time to play him , not Seth
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#58 » by therealbig3 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 9:03 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:Cam is more talented than seth yes. But contributing to winning bball seth is better. Cam still has ways to go.


On a contender yes , with KD Kyrie I’ll take Seth over Cam

With our current situation, we not contenders anymore , Seth will be gone in three months , we cockblocking ourselves giving him minutes over Cam

Because of that I can see situation where both is moved in off-season and then Cam gonna take the next step on another team and all gonna cry what a talent we gave up for nothing

Guess what , to be sure what Cam is ( will be ) now it’s the time to play him , not Seth


But we're not rebuilding or tanking either. We're trying to win games regardless. We're still a playoff team. Playing worse players for the sake of player development when we're still trying to win doesn't make sense, and no team in our current position would do that either.
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Post#59 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 9:07 pm

therealbig3 wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
Eatgreenz wrote:Cam is more talented than seth yes. But contributing to winning bball seth is better. Cam still has ways to go.


On a contender yes , with KD Kyrie I’ll take Seth over Cam

With our current situation, we not contenders anymore , Seth will be gone in three months , we cockblocking ourselves giving him minutes over Cam

Because of that I can see situation where both is moved in off-season and then Cam gonna take the next step on another team and all gonna cry what a talent we gave up for nothing

Guess what , to be sure what Cam is ( will be ) now it’s the time to play him , not Seth


But we're not rebuilding or tanking either. We're trying to win games regardless. We're still a playoff team. Playing worse players for the sake of player development when we're still trying to win doesn't make sense, and no team in our current position would do that either.


So it’s right decision to play Seth and Joe ? For sake of what ? Play ins ? First round exit ?

Yeah Tsai will make few extra bucks for two home games in first round I guess
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets- 8:00PM- 3/7/23 

Post#60 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 9:13 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:I’m glad to see everyone seems to agree with me that they need to play the young guys and develop them. We played Allen and levert and developed them. Play cam. Yes he’s young and will make mistakes but now is the time to play him.


100% Truth

There is only two ways

1 play Joe Seth and prob qualify for playoffs ( extra bucks for two home games ) but at the same time stopping development of our youth

2 play CamT , Sumner , Yuta , we still might get in into playoffs but at least we know what we have , if we don’t get in or they all will bust, so be it

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