Marcus Smart's trade value

[Marvel]

I want to send Brogdon to New Orleans for Dyson Daniels

Heeeeeeeees baaaaack

[Triple7]

Smart is fine as our pg. The pg's in the Finals are Jamal Murray who is a great player/scorer, but not a great playmaker/traditional pg and Gabe Vincent who I can't say anything nice about but he just torched us so I'll leave him alone. The difference is Jokic for Denver and how the Heat play as a team with movement compared to us. Smart is a good playmaker, albeit not great, and is still one of the best backcourt defenders in the league with his versatility. We couldn't switch like we do, Rob becomes less effective as a result, or we live with our new pg getting switched into the post and eaten alive. A new ball dominant pg would just make JT and JB stand around more if nothing else in the offensive philosophy changes.

I'm not saying he's the best pg in the league and there's no upgrade to be made, but it's too far down the list of concerns for me to pursue it realistically.

Flip smart while he still has value. or move him to the bench. White should definitely start next season, and playing him alongside smart limits his game. Smart is not a good playmaker actually. He makes dangerous passes. Poor alleyoops, and wanted that highlight passes than making the efficient one.

[chrisab123]

Trade value to this front office? Probably Wemby. In reality he's worth the 20th-25th pick. Disparity on how he's viewed around the league and how he's viewed here.

[zoyathedestroya]

He's the inverse of JB. They have to get back to letting him have the ball more and set the table. Ime did a good job defining their roles, got Smart to play PG full-time. He has less value as an off-the-ball player though still did well hitting his corner threes in the playoffs. He had to sacrifice some of those onball possessions in favor of White, Brogdon, and the Jays. It's no wonder he had a worse regular season with Joe than with Udoka. White, I have no issue with being turned more into a secondary playmaker or even the starting PG. Cs can trade Brogdon for a PF/C that has a bit of an inside game. Tatum can have the ball in the 4th/clutch.

Would still hold on to Smart but with a better-defined role. If they're trading him, most we could get is probably a lottery-protected 1st and a project bench player with some upside.

[watsonthedragon]

He's the inverse of JB. They have to get back to letting him have the ball more and set the table. Ime did a good job defining their roles, got Smart to play PG full-time. He has less value as an off-the-ball player though still did well hitting his corner threes in the playoffs. He had to sacrifice some of those onball possessions in favor of White, Brogdon, and the Jays. It's no wonder he had a worse regular season with Joe than with Udoka. White, I have no issue with being turned more into a secondary playmaker or even the starting PG. Cs can trade Brogdon for a PF/C that has a bit of an inside game. Tatum can have the ball in the 4th/clutch.

Would still hold on to Smart but with a better-defined role. If they're trading him, most we could get is probably a lottery-protected 1st and a project bench player with some upside.

Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm pretty sure Marcus had the best stretch of his career at the beginning of THIS season playing with the ball in his hands a ton up until he got hurt. Not sure this is a Ime/Joe thing (though I know how much some fans love to pin every little thing on Mazzulla and deify Udoka).

[zoyathedestroya]

He's the inverse of JB. They have to get back to letting him have the ball more and set the table. Ime did a good job defining their roles, got Smart to play PG full-time. He has less value as an off-the-ball player though still did well hitting his corner threes in the playoffs. He had to sacrifice some of those onball possessions in favor of White, Brogdon, and the Jays. It's no wonder he had a worse regular season with Joe than with Udoka. White, I have no issue with being turned more into a secondary playmaker or even the starting PG. Cs can trade Brogdon for a PF/C that has a bit of an inside game. Tatum can have the ball in the 4th/clutch.

Would still hold on to Smart but with a better-defined role. If they're trading him, most we could get is probably a lottery-protected 1st and a project bench player with some upside.

Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm pretty sure Marcus had the best stretch of his career at the beginning of THIS season playing with the ball in his hands a ton up until he got hurt. Not sure this is a Ime/Joe thing (though I know how much some fans love to pin every little thing on Mazzulla and deify Udoka).

Injury was a part of it. But they had Tatum and Brogdon handle the ball more 2nd half of the season, relegating Smart's role as more of an offball player. It's not just coaching, but how the roster was constructed.

[threrf23]

Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm pretty sure Marcus had the best stretch of his career at the beginning of THIS season playing with the ball in his hands a ton up until he got hurt. Not sure this is a Ime/Joe thing (though I know how much some fans love to pin every little thing on Mazzulla and deify Udoka).

I agree with you, Marcus early in the season and at times in the postseason was better than what we saw in the past.

But the thing is our whole team was mostly awesome early in the season, then I don't know what exactly what happened but Jaylen wanted more on ball reps and what not, Joe caved, etc. I'm sure Joe is good at knowing what our team needs and how our players are best utilized (in a general no adjustments made by our opponent sense). The problem is, things fall apart easy where there is no one on the sidelines sticking his hands out to help keep everything in its place.

So I am still also inclined to blame Joe (and Brad) and miss Ime in general.