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Post#41 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 1:37 pm

Poole's contract isn't looking as terrible when you consider what other guards are getting

Haliburton 5 year / $260,000,000
Bane 5 year / $207,000,000
VanVleet 3 year / $130,000,000
Irving 3 year / $126,000,000
Poole 4 year / $128,000,000
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Post#42 » by GunnerWRX » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:07 pm

I thank him greatly for being a key piece for the 21-22 ring.

He took the blame for everything wrong in 22-23, but never forget that he only made $3.9M in 22-23. It was like the CEO and veteran employees blaming a failed company on a new grad they hired a couple of years ago.

Whether he is worth the new contract or not, it is irrelevant. Say we didn’t extend him and he becomes a RFA, and we don’t want to keep him. We would need to pay him this amount to S&T for CP3 anyway.

Do you care what DLo gets once he is traded for Wiggins?

I find it absurd that fans blame all the failures on a dude making $3.9M, and give a pass to 3 dudes making a combined $115M. Then justified their hate by what the dude will make *next* year. Irrational.

I like our team moving forward and believe we can contend if CP3/Draymond/Klay stay healthy. I also will watch what Poole does in Washington and wish him the best!
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Post#43 » by xdrta+ » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:22 pm

GunnerWRX wrote:I thank him greatly for being a key piece for the 21-22 ring.

He took the blame for everything wrong in 22-23,....


The narrative has been revised so far that now he also takes the blame for getting punched by Draymond.
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Post#44 » by e83pw2oa9hl5f » Sat Jul 1, 2023 7:51 pm

Yesterday I almost punched road works people who keep coming in front of my property to train their crews on how to set up lights and all that kind of stuff. They do it here because it is quiet and remote. Complained formal channels before, kept coming. Used to be in frequent but all the time lately. So went out to talk to the trainer and trainee's, and turns out they brought higher ups , because they knew of complaints bet came anyway. He thought he could talk out of it. I chased those muppets off they will not be coming back. Point is, people have limits. I had even explained about the effects on my disabled child when they do that. Sets em off all day. They could care less. Dad is going to kick some ass now because I do not give a F...


Pool from day one, came off like an ass. I think PR teams helped him later. But I am talking before he broke through. Go look at his early stuff. The guy is a wanker.

We have no clue what really happened. But I can totally see wanting to kick his ass if any of the stories are true or not, who knows.

This coming from a guy takes a lot to make go that way. Like usually I have to get punched first before I will go full Speed.

Time to move on, The front Office Did.

bet if a few of these board posters were in a room, I can guarantee that a few people probably get to this point as well. By the way people conduct themselves and word choices used to communicate. It is designed to get a response. Others choose sentence construction much more diplomatically, while some are downright egging on people for a smack. Sometimes karma is a bitch. This has been going on next level since 2016 that most people on the diplomatic way of communicating, will get. And the others, break a sweat and winge like babies. See that is good example. Trigger.

But literally Chaplinsky is watered down now. This stuff used to all be called "FIGHTING WORDS" and it was known your going to get your teeth knocked in. Now its somehow excepted and your supposed to tolerate unhinged people in your face going off. And now it is rampant through those identifying and validating this type of talk...I say smack the teeth in.
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Post#45 » by Onus » Sun Jul 2, 2023 5:25 pm

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Post#46 » by KevinMcreynolds » Sun Jul 2, 2023 5:29 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Poole's contract isn't looking as terrible when you consider what other guards are getting

Haliburton 5 year / $260,000,000
Bane 5 year / $207,000,000
VanVleet 3 year / $130,000,000
Irving 3 year / $126,000,000
Poole 4 year / $128,000,000


I would take him over Kyrie, that’s about it
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Post#47 » by watch1958 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 5:46 pm

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oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Poole's contract isn't looking as terrible when you consider what other guards are getting

Haliburton 5 year / $260,000,000
Bane 5 year / $207,000,000
VanVleet 3 year / $130,000,000
Irving 3 year / $126,000,000
Poole 4 year / $128,000,000


I would take him over Kyrie, that’s about it

On the other hand, Clarkson 3 years/ $55,000,000. Strange year.
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Post#48 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Jul 2, 2023 6:32 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Poole's contract isn't looking as terrible when you consider what other guards are getting

Haliburton 5 year / $260,000,000
Bane 5 year / $207,000,000
VanVleet 3 year / $130,000,000
Irving 3 year / $126,000,000
Poole 4 year / $128,000,000


All 4 of those guys are better than Poole.

The guys most mentioned as poole comps:

Coby white 3/40
Dlo 2/37
Clarkson 3/55
Maxey didn't get extended yet.
Hero, the heat are already put him in trade talks.
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Post#49 » by CDM_Stats » Sun Jul 2, 2023 6:41 pm

Onus wrote:https://warriorswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/01/klay-thompsons-issues-with-former-warriors-teammate-revealed/

The irony of Klay saying jp doesn’t pass and shoots too much. Lmao


It is funny, but I get it. Klay's job isnt to handle/facilitate.. part of Poole's job was to do that, and he didn't

This is why CP3's such a huge addition.. it literally takes the ball out of Poole's hands and puts it into CP3s. Which will also lead to less directionless passes to Klay, Wiggins or whoever was in the 2nd unit as well, which did nothing except bleed SC time
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Post#50 » by Old_Blue » Sun Jul 2, 2023 7:04 pm

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GunnerWRX wrote:I thank him greatly for being a key piece for the 21-22 ring.

He took the blame for everything wrong in 22-23,....


The narrative has been revised so far that now he also takes the blame for getting punched by Draymond.


Well, yes. Poole did put his face in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now, if we could only scrub that pesky video from every corner of the internet. Anyone know how to do that? :D
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Post#51 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 7:36 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Poole's contract isn't looking as terrible when you consider what other guards are getting

Haliburton 5 year / $260,000,000
Bane 5 year / $207,000,000
VanVleet 3 year / $130,000,000
Irving 3 year / $126,000,000
Poole 4 year / $128,000,000


All 4 of those guys are better than Poole.

The guys most mentioned as poole comps:

Coby white 3/40
Dlo 2/37
Clarkson 3/55
Maxey didn't get extended yet.
Hero, the heat are already put him in trade talks.


I don't know, 32 a year isn't that bad for Poole when you consider the market:

Haliburton 56/y
LaMelo 52/y
VanVleet 43/y
Bane 42/y
Irving 42/y
Poole 32/y
Hero 30/y
Brooks 20/y
Dlo 19/y
White 19/y
Clarkson 18/y
DiVincenzo 13/y


Right in-between Bane and Clarkson. He might have gotten that in the open market.
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Post#52 » by clyde21 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 8:07 pm

just because other guys are getting massively overpaid because the NBA is broken doesn't make Poole's any better, and none of those teams are in the cap hellhole the Warriors are in now
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Post#53 » by Coxy » Sun Jul 2, 2023 8:25 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Poole's contract isn't looking as terrible when you consider what other guards are getting

Haliburton 5 year / $260,000,000
Bane 5 year / $207,000,000
VanVleet 3 year / $130,000,000
Irving 3 year / $126,000,000
Poole 4 year / $128,000,000


All 4 of those guys are better than Poole.

The guys most mentioned as poole comps:

Coby white 3/40
Dlo 2/37
Clarkson 3/55
Maxey didn't get extended yet.
Hero, the heat are already put him in trade talks.


I don't know, 32 a year isn't that bad for Poole when you consider the market:

Haliburton 56/y
LaMelo 52/y
VanVleet 43/y
Bane 42/y
Irving 42/y
Poole 32/y
Hero 30/y
Brooks 20/y
Dlo 19/y
White 19/y
Clarkson 18/y
DiVincenzo 13/y


Right in-between Bane and Clarkson. He might have gotten that in the open market.


Poole is overpaid by at least $13m per year by this comparison scale.
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Post#54 » by Nvnervous45 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 8:42 pm

Just because poole got punched doesn't make him any better for the warriors on that contract. I swear I don't know why people still like poole. He couldn't play a lick of d and was a terrible teammate that not even curry and klay liked to play with. So much so that Dunleavy said I'd rather have a 38 year old Paul than a 24 year old poole.
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Post#55 » by Nvnervous45 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 8:45 pm

Plus poole looked like hot garbage throughout the playoffs. His game was so exposed that he was unplayable on offense and d.
But, since he was punched, he's the victim. I hate victim mentality, especially when you're trying to build a winner.
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Post#56 » by xdrta+ » Sun Jul 2, 2023 10:49 pm

Nvnervous45 wrote:Plus poole looked like hot garbage throughout the playoffs. His game was so exposed that he was unplayable on offense and d.
But, since he was punched, he's the victim. I hate victim mentality, especially when you're trying to build a winner.


You're making a category error, confusing two separate things. IMO, Poole was definitely a victim -- a victim of Draymond's stupidity, even viciousness. That doesn't mean I think he was a great basketball player or that we shouldn't have traded him. I even like Paul for him, especially if, by some miracle, he can stay on the court until the end of the playoffs.
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Post#57 » by GunnerWRX » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:22 pm

Coxy wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
All 4 of those guys are better than Poole.

The guys most mentioned as poole comps:

Coby white 3/40
Dlo 2/37
Clarkson 3/55
Maxey didn't get extended yet.
Hero, the heat are already put him in trade talks.


I don't know, 32 a year isn't that bad for Poole when you consider the market:

Haliburton 56/y
LaMelo 52/y
VanVleet 43/y
Bane 42/y
Irving 42/y
Poole 32/y
Hero 30/y
Brooks 20/y
Dlo 19/y
White 19/y
Clarkson 18/y
DiVincenzo 13/y


Right in-between Bane and Clarkson. He might have gotten that in the open market.


Poole is overpaid by at least $13m per year by this comparison scale.


Irrelevant. He made $3.9M.

He cannot match CP3's salary if he doesn't make $28M next season.

So if he becomes a RFA, and you want to flip him for CP3, you have to re-sign him at this amount this summer regardless, unless you want to let him walk for nothing.

Washington is paying him the new contract now, so who cares?

Some people just hate so much and need to justify it by what the dude makes *not* on their team. So much hate and they can't even see or think rationally.
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Post#58 » by Coxy » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:50 pm

GunnerWRX wrote:
Coxy wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
I don't know, 32 a year isn't that bad for Poole when you consider the market:

Haliburton 56/y
LaMelo 52/y
VanVleet 43/y
Bane 42/y
Irving 42/y
Poole 32/y
Hero 30/y
Brooks 20/y
Dlo 19/y
White 19/y
Clarkson 18/y
DiVincenzo 13/y


Right in-between Bane and Clarkson. He might have gotten that in the open market.


Poole is overpaid by at least $13m per year by this comparison scale.


Irrelevant. He made $3.9M.

He cannot match CP3's salary if he doesn't make $28M next season.

So if he becomes a RFA, and you want to flip him for CP3, you have to re-sign him at this amount this summer regardless, unless you want to let him walk for nothing.

Washington is paying him the new contract now, so who cares?

Some people just hate so much and need to justify it by what the dude makes *not* on their team. So much hate and they can't even see or think rationally.


You better believe the true fans cared when we stupidly gave him that contract a year ago, when there was no need to. It caused all sorts of ripple effects for us, and we have now thankfully been bailed out in a really lucky scenerio of Paul being traded to a non-contender, and Washington have now taken on the headache that Poole is.

If Poole went to RFA with us, the option wasn't only to resign Poole for huge money so we could trade him for CP3. We would have had plenty of other options and scenarios. The Poole contract was stupid, and Washington are stupid for taking it on, however the number 1 pick next season for them now looks a great possibility with Poole running that show, so maybe it might turn them around bizarely.
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Post#59 » by GunnerWRX » Tue Jul 4, 2023 2:56 am

Coxy wrote:
GunnerWRX wrote:
Coxy wrote:
Poole is overpaid by at least $13m per year by this comparison scale.


Irrelevant. He made $3.9M.

He cannot match CP3's salary if he doesn't make $28M next season.

So if he becomes a RFA, and you want to flip him for CP3, you have to re-sign him at this amount this summer regardless, unless you want to let him walk for nothing.

Washington is paying him the new contract now, so who cares?

Some people just hate so much and need to justify it by what the dude makes *not* on their team. So much hate and they can't even see or think rationally.


You better believe the true fans cared when we stupidly gave him that contract a year ago, when there was no need to. It caused all sorts of ripple effects for us, and we have now thankfully been bailed out in a really lucky scenerio of Paul being traded to a non-contender, and Washington have now taken on the headache that Poole is.

If Poole went to RFA with us, the option wasn't only to resign Poole for huge money so we could trade him for CP3. We would have had plenty of other options and scenarios. The Poole contract was stupid, and Washington are stupid for taking it on, however the number 1 pick next season for them now looks a great possibility with Poole running that show, so maybe it might turn them around bizarely.


Folks always start referring themselves as true fans like others aren't, when their posts lack specifics and substance.

Heck, everyone wasting time posting here arguing with irrational folks are true fans.

The fact is the contract you repeatedly argued that you hated, and we didn't pay a cent on, got flipped for CP3. Which means it was a tradable contract when it was signed.

No matter how you have shown in failing to comprehend.
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Post#60 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 2:59 am

Coxy wrote:
GunnerWRX wrote:
Coxy wrote:
Poole is overpaid by at least $13m per year by this comparison scale.


Irrelevant. He made $3.9M.

He cannot match CP3's salary if he doesn't make $28M next season.

So if he becomes a RFA, and you want to flip him for CP3, you have to re-sign him at this amount this summer regardless, unless you want to let him walk for nothing.

Washington is paying him the new contract now, so who cares?

Some people just hate so much and need to justify it by what the dude makes *not* on their team. So much hate and they can't even see or think rationally.


You better believe the true fans cared when we stupidly gave him that contract a year ago, when there was no need to. It caused all sorts of ripple effects for us, and we have now thankfully been bailed out in a really lucky scenerio of Paul being traded to a non-contender, and Washington have now taken on the headache that Poole is.

If Poole went to RFA with us, the option wasn't only to resign Poole for huge money so we could trade him for CP3. We would have had plenty of other options and scenarios. The Poole contract was stupid, and Washington are stupid for taking it on, however the number 1 pick next season for them now looks a great possibility with Poole running that show, so maybe it might turn them around bizarely.



Had the Warriors not given him the contract he would have been free to sign wherever he wants, and the Warriors could only match or try a sign-n-trade with a team of HIS choice.

There are ups and downs to both sides
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