JMaster5K wrote:Now, a third of the way through, we are seeing Stix and I-Jax both get time at the 4
isn't iJax mostly playing the 5 with Toppin at the 4?
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JMaster5K wrote:Now, a third of the way through, we are seeing Stix and I-Jax both get time at the 4
Wizop wrote:basketballwacko2 wrote:now we're talking about Walker being better suited at SF.
who is "we?" I've not heard anyone official say he's a three. I don't think we know anything beyond he is still learning how to play a switching defense.
plus, we've played Stix at 4 and I won't be surprised if iJax also plays some with Turner. I think it's too early to know what our rotation will look like in May.
as for TJD, didn't he tell a lot of teams not to draft him? not that always matters but you don't want an unhappy camper.
Wizop wrote:JMaster5K wrote:Now, a third of the way through, we are seeing Stix and I-Jax both get time at the 4
isn't iJax mostly playing the 5 with Toppin at the 4?
Wizop wrote:Pacers Forever wrote:Wizop wrote:
Stix can opt out and test the free agent market.
Nope not letting him get away from the team whom gave him a chance to get on the court.
I didn't mean he'd be gone. I only meant we're going to have to give him a competitive raise to keep him.
Wizop wrote:JMaster5K wrote:Yup,.. still need a real 4, with size, that can defend,.... Gee, I think I heard that before?.... LOLOL =}
I'm gaining patience. starting Stix has put Toppin and Jackson on the second unit which has helped them.
Pacers Forever wrote:Wizop wrote:Pacers Forever wrote:I do think Smith and I Jax will be kept even though we should draft or trade for a rebounding first 4.
Stix can opt out and test the free agent market.
Nope not letting him get away from the team whom gave him a chance to get on the court.
JMaster5K wrote:basketballwacko2 wrote:JMaster5K wrote:
TJD fell into a great spot for him. He is playing exceptionally well, in their offense and defense. It's interesting that TJD & Toppin were mentioned together. They both are fast for their size, but have limited lateral mobility. TJD is the better rebounder, and puts more effort into defense, so yeah, I'd probably rather have him than Toppin. However, neither really fit the Pacers scheme's.
So, I understand us passing, particularly as all our 2nd's were signed to two-ways, or overseas. We just didn't have the space to give him that guarantee. Still,.. I'm happy for him. He is in a great spot, that could lay the foundations for a long career.
Yeah,.. I feel a LOT better about SF after watching Nesmith, as well. LOL - I had to go back and look, but the critiques of him prior to the 2020 draft marked him as 'the best shooter in the draft'. Hopefully, this is just the beginning for him. =]
I agree with you and Wizop that Nesmith should be the starter at SF. Where does that leave Bruce Brown and his 1+1 with a team option? I'd think there are teams that would like to have him, I know he's a good defender, but unless he's playing the SG at 6'4'' he's too small to be a Forward.
As for the 2024 draft, looks to me like a PF is needed again. I just really hope the Pacers don't trade their pick/picks for an Expiring like Siakam. I am 99% sure he'd leave in free agency.
I think you are right on the money... One of the 'oh yeah' comments on 3 of the websites of basketball 'reporters' who were actually at the G-League Showcase talking to people (and posted interviews from the actual site),... was that there was a new name casually floating in the trade rumors,.. Bruce Brown. It was also commented on (in passing) by Woj. Woj even said the same thing you did,.. that he still has the reputation as a excellent on-ball defender, even if he hasn't been able to show it in Indiana.
Yup,.. still need a real 4, with size, that can defend,.... Gee, I think I heard that before?.... LOLOL =}
basketballwacko2 wrote:Pacers Forever wrote:Wizop wrote:
Stix can opt out and test the free agent market.
Nope not letting him get away from the team whom gave him a chance to get on the court.
Smith has a player option that will make him a UFA, I don't think he will get any big offers so I'd think he could be had for a contract like Nesmith's 3/$36 or there about.
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basketballwacko2 wrote:I know this tread was about the 2024 draft but how about a trade idea?
basketballwacko2 wrote:I know this tread was about the 2024 draft but how about a trade idea?
Pacers send Brown to GSW for Wiggins and a 2026 #1 pick. Wiggins is having a bad season IDK if it's from injuries or what? He's more the big wing type that we talk about he'd be the SF with Nesmith. GSW owes a #1 to Portland likely to convey this year so they can't trade any pick until 2026 at the soonest, make it top 4 protected. This would allow them to play Brown at SG and move Klay to the SF. And they lose Wiggin's long term money. Would they pay a #1 to do that? Should the Pacers take on Wiggins and his long term money to gain a 2026 #1 pick?
Grang33r wrote:basketballwacko2 wrote:I know this tread was about the 2024 draft but how about a trade idea?
I love chatting about the draft, even if it ends up with us not having a pick, but, id bet we trade our pick, atleast our own.
JMaster5K wrote:....teams begin to believe they need a defensive 2 for a post-season run?....
JMaster5K wrote:basketballwacko2 wrote:I know this tread was about the 2024 draft but how about a trade idea?
Pacers send Brown to GSW for Wiggins and a 2026 #1 pick. Wiggins is having a bad season IDK if it's from injuries or what? He's more the big wing type that we talk about he'd be the SF with Nesmith. GSW owes a #1 to Portland likely to convey this year so they can't trade any pick until 2026 at the soonest, make it top 4 protected. This would allow them to play Brown at SG and move Klay to the SF. And they lose Wiggin's long term money. Would they pay a #1 to do that? Should the Pacers take on Wiggins and his long term money to gain a 2026 #1 pick?
honestly,, idk,.. but it's at least plausible. Not sure the Pacers would want to take on 3 more years of 26M - 30M contracts? But it's not unthinkable.
If Woj is accurate, then I gotta think Brown's value is going to increase the closer we get to the deadline, and teams begin to believe they need a defensive 2 for a post-season run? Even more likely in that his contract is a club option for next year. If he fits great,.. they have another year. If not, he can move along, and a playoff team has 22M come off their books.
I could see NYK being interested? Maybe Atl, Bkn, Den, GS, Phi, Pho,... all seem to make sense from playstyle, opportunity?
For us, I do think we will looking, not because there is anything specifically wrong, but if we can get additional value from a young player, move up in this draft, or even get another selection in 26? In the long run, it could be worth it?
Tom White wrote:JMaster5K wrote:....teams begin to believe they need a defensive 2 for a post-season run?....
Does that description not also fit the Pacers?
basketballwacko2 wrote:I guess it all depends on how well the Pacers play over the next 3-4 weeks. Crushing the Hawks tonight was a good sign. I still say it is Haliburton and Turner who are wrecking some of these teams. One of them getting hurt could have a terrible effect of the team.
JMaster5K wrote:Hoopshyle released their second 2024 NBA Aggregate Mock Draft for the season.
Wizop wrote:JMaster5K wrote:Hoopshyle released their second 2024 NBA Aggregate Mock Draft for the season.
I haven't seen enough basketball other than IU and Butler to judge, but if this is accurate I see several guys with the size we need available after the lottery.
Wizop wrote:JMaster5K wrote:Hoopshyle released their second 2024 NBA Aggregate Mock Draft for the season.
I haven't seen enough basketball other than IU and Butler to judge, but if this is accurate I see several guys with the size we need available after the lottery.