sfernald wrote:Is he better than Luka at this point? Has the apprentice finally become the master?
How can one be an apprentice to a person with less professional experience?
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sfernald wrote:Is he better than Luka at this point? Has the apprentice finally become the master?
Demagoog wrote:OkcSinceSGA wrote:sfernald wrote:Is he better than Luka at this point? Has the apprentice finally become the master?
This series he’s way better than Luka. Especially when you factor in defense. In general, no.
Luka has been nothing short of sensational on defense this series.
sp6r=underrated wrote:xchange55 wrote:] I think the league/media is not pushing him as a star or face of any teams because of the various controversies off the court.
His controversies aren't off the court. He's flat out caused problems for multiple teams he played on. He had a season he basically refused to play basketball.
Petergrifindor wrote:The other day, during the 5th game I actually opened another window in my computer to buy myself a Kyrie jersey.
You now, after THAT play.
sfernald wrote:Is he better than Luka at this point? Has the apprentice finally become the master?
Tommy Heinsohn wrote:The game is not over until they look you in the face and start crying.
mademan wrote:sp6r=underrated wrote:xchange55 wrote:] I think the league/media is not pushing him as a star or face of any teams because of the various controversies off the court.
His controversies aren't off the court. He's flat out caused problems for multiple teams he played on. He had a season he basically refused to play basketball.
What season was this? Refusing to take the vaccine /=/ refusing to play basketball...multiple other players didnt take the vaccine, they just didnt play in NY.
Kyrie has a lot of controversies to answer for but the COVID year was just unfortunate, not his fault.
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cgf wrote:mademan wrote:sp6r=underrated wrote:
His controversies aren't off the court. He's flat out caused problems for multiple teams he played on. He had a season he basically refused to play basketball.
What season was this? Refusing to take the vaccine /=/ refusing to play basketball...multiple other players didnt take the vaccine, they just didnt play in NY.
Kyrie has a lot of controversies to answer for but the COVID year was just unfortunate, not his fault.
It was 100% his choice. He knew he played in NY and he knew the rules, but he chose to follow his beliefs despite the consequences. Whether because he thought the rules didn't apply to him, because he didn't care about his team enough, because he likes the attention he gets for being a contrarian, or just because he lacks experience reading scientific papers, the reason doesn't really matter.
Whatever it was that inspired him to do so, Kyrie made the decision not to be there for his team when he could've been.
Astaluego wrote:cgf wrote:mademan wrote:
What season was this? Refusing to take the vaccine /=/ refusing to play basketball...multiple other players didnt take the vaccine, they just didnt play in NY.
Kyrie has a lot of controversies to answer for but the COVID year was just unfortunate, not his fault.
It was 100% his choice. He knew he played in NY and he knew the rules, but he chose to follow his beliefs despite the consequences. Whether because he thought the rules didn't apply to him, because he didn't care about his team enough, because he likes the attention he gets for being a contrarian, or just because he lacks experience reading scientific papers, the reason doesn't really matter.
Whatever it was that inspired him to do so, Kyrie made the decision not to be there for his team when he could've been.
or maybe a guy true to his principles, who doesn't sell himself for money/social pressure, I don't know how things look on the other side of the pond, but in my eyes he did totally the right thing by not injecting that graphene **** with dark or dubious purposes..but even if you think differently where is free will??? now kill me
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
Astaluego wrote:cgf wrote:mademan wrote:
What season was this? Refusing to take the vaccine /=/ refusing to play basketball...multiple other players didnt take the vaccine, they just didnt play in NY.
Kyrie has a lot of controversies to answer for but the COVID year was just unfortunate, not his fault.
It was 100% his choice. He knew he played in NY and he knew the rules, but he chose to follow his beliefs despite the consequences. Whether because he thought the rules didn't apply to him, because he didn't care about his team enough, because he likes the attention he gets for being a contrarian, or just because he lacks experience reading scientific papers, the reason doesn't really matter.
Whatever it was that inspired him to do so, Kyrie made the decision not to be there for his team when he could've been.
or maybe a guy true to his principles, who doesn't sell himself for money/social pressure, I don't know how things look on the other side of the pond, but in my eyes he did totally the right thing by not injecting that graphene **** with dark or dubious purposes..but even if you think differently where is free will??? now kill me
OkcSinceSGA wrote:sfernald wrote:Is he better than Luka at this point? Has the apprentice finally become the master?
This series he’s way better than Luka. Especially when you factor in defense. In general, no.
cgf wrote:Exactly Kyrie put his own scientific illiteracy above his team-mates and used his free will to choose not to be available. I'm a biologist, so you're not going to have a lot of success trying to argue that the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus.
Froob wrote:sfernald wrote:Is he better than Luka at this point? Has the apprentice finally become the master?
No, but he is best as the secondary ball handler. Best he’s been in his career as been playing with LeBron, Harden and Luka.
Happy for Kyrie, he’s fun to watch. Boston stuff is old news. Wasn’t going to work out timeline wise. Kyrie shouldn’t be your number one player.
nate33 wrote:cgf wrote:Exactly Kyrie put his own scientific illiteracy above his team-mates and used his free will to choose not to be available. I'm a biologist, so you're not going to have a lot of success trying to argue that the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus.
For young, healthy, professional athletes, the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus. The chances of myocarditis impact Kyrie's career were higher than the virtually zero chance that a healthy, not-fat, non-immunocompromised 27-year-old would be killed by Covid.
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
nate33 wrote:cgf wrote:Exactly Kyrie put his own scientific illiteracy above his team-mates and used his free will to choose not to be available. I'm a biologist, so you're not going to have a lot of success trying to argue that the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus.
For young, healthy, professional athletes, the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus. The chances of myocarditis impact Kyrie's career were higher than the virtually zero chance that a healthy, not-fat, non-immunocompromised 27-year-old would be killed by Covid.
tsherkin wrote:nate33 wrote:cgf wrote:Exactly Kyrie put his own scientific illiteracy above his team-mates and used his free will to choose not to be available. I'm a biologist, so you're not going to have a lot of success trying to argue that the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus.
For young, healthy, professional athletes, the vaccine was more dangerous than the virus. The chances of myocarditis impact Kyrie's career were higher than the virtually zero chance that a healthy, not-fat, non-immunocompromised 27-year-old would be killed by Covid.
Myocarditis was hardly the only complication of COVID. The risk of ARDS and other serious respiratory complications were significant. We saw that plenty responding to calls in Toronto.
Conversation about the vaccine mandate and stuff is complex for a variety of reasons, no doubt, but you could be any age and be completely screwed over that virus, even without any inherent immunosuppression or other complications. Particularly the Alpha and Beta variants.
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
cgf wrote:...but let's say that wasn't an intentionally misleading way of framing the question, the risk of transmission to someone who wasn't a healthy, non-fat, non-immunocompromised 27yo was still much higher.