Vuc Trade Thread

[Guru]

Well according to Windy yesterday and ESPN still 0 market for Vuc and Zach, just like I said would happen 6 months and 12 months ago....the league KNOWS what they are and what they're worth, a HOT start doesn't change that "value".

I think at the deadline we'll settle for a bad Vuc deal and keep Zach yet again as AKME will continue to think we can get more for him.

Sure...they held him out last night for fun!

[sco]

Well according to Windy yesterday and ESPN still 0 market for Vuc and Zach, just like I said would happen 6 months and 12 months ago....the league KNOWS what they are and what they're worth, a HOT start doesn't change that "value".

I think at the deadline we'll settle for a bad Vuc deal and keep Zach yet again as AKME will continue to think we can get more for him.

Sure...they held him out last night for fun!

Hey, he didn't feel good.

[Guru]

Well according to Windy yesterday and ESPN still 0 market for Vuc and Zach, just like I said would happen 6 months and 12 months ago....the league KNOWS what they are and what they're worth, a HOT start doesn't change that "value".

I think at the deadline we'll settle for a bad Vuc deal and keep Zach yet again as AKME will continue to think we can get more for him.

Sure...they held him out last night for fun!

Hey, he didn't feel good.

I'm not saying they have a trade for sure. But I am saying they didn't play him because they might have a trade.

[sco]

Sure...they held him out last night for fun!

Hey, he didn't feel good.

I'm not saying they have a trade for sure. But I am saying they didn't play him because they might have a trade.

JK I'm with you.

[Chi town]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

[sco]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

Really? Since we're talking about likely play-off teams, a late 1st for a guy playing at an near-allstar level under contract for this/next season on a reasonable deal seems pretty reasonable.

[Infinity2152]

A lot of contracts are not tradeable yet. A lot more trade possibilities opening up tomorrow, and they should be asking for as much as they think they can reasonably get. You can always negotiate down from your asking price, hard to move up unless there's a bidding war.

There are actually a few teams that really should be trying to trade for Vuc, if the mostly is only a late first. It's possible they have a couple of offers already, that the other teams can't do yet.

[dougthonus]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

I'd be looking for a late 1st too as an opening gambit.

Would settle straight expirings, but I think someone will offer at least a couple 2nds, and a late 1st isn't out of the question. Really just depends if there are multiple bidders, because the Bulls are better off just shedding the contract (ie in a single bidder market, expirings is probably enough), but he's likely got positive value now, so if there are two bidders, second rounders is on the table for sure, and if you get more bidders than that, 1st round pick is probably in the realm of possibilities.

[burlydee]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

Really? Since we're talking about likely play-off teams, a late 1st for a guy playing at an near-allstar level under contract for this/next season on a reasonable deal seems pretty reasonable.

Agreed. Bulls have no reason to sale low. I think they'll hold out for a 1st or a guaranteed high second. Could also see them taking a chance on a disappointing young player, like they did with Giddey. But the Bulls don't have a lot of incentive to just dump him.

[StephenAA]

I prefer Vuc goes to a team that prevents them from tanking ala Pels. Pistons etc.

I get that, no doubt, but getting a useful asset in return is key to me. If somehow he fetches a FRP or a guy like Jones or Vandy, I'd be thrilled.

Our top 10 pick in this draft is much more valuable than anything we will get for Vuc.

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[burlydee]

I get that, no doubt, but getting a useful asset in return is key to me. If somehow he fetches a FRP or a guy like Jones or Vandy, I'd be thrilled.

Our top 10 pick in this draft is much more valuable than anything we will get for Vuc.

This...

AA

They can always have Vuc fake an injury or nurse a real one. And I don't think trading Vuc makes the Bulls automatically worse.

[Clint Eastwood]

I prefer Vuc goes to a team that prevents them from tanking ala Pels. Pistons etc.

I get that, no doubt, but getting a useful asset in return is key to me. If somehow he fetches a FRP or a guy like Jones or Vandy, I'd be thrilled.

Our top 10 pick in this draft is much more valuable than anything we will get for Vuc.

Or we just sign the just released paul reed

[Chi town]

I get that, no doubt, but getting a useful asset in return is key to me. If somehow he fetches a FRP or a guy like Jones or Vandy, I'd be thrilled.

Our top 10 pick in this draft is much more valuable than anything we will get for Vuc.

Or we just sign the just released paul reed

Yep. Looks like they are getting ready to make a trade.

[sco]

Our top 10 pick in this draft is much more valuable than anything we will get for Vuc.

Or we just sign the just released paul reed

Yep. Looks like they are getting ready to make a trade.

So that would mean that they'd be getting more players than they are sending out?

[Hangtime84]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

Really? Since we're talking about likely play-off teams, a late 1st for a guy playing at an near-allstar level under contract for this/next season on a reasonable deal seems pretty reasonable.

He playing like an Allstar value is up and other team has him under contract for two years.

[Muzbar]

Or we just sign the just released paul reed

Yep. Looks like they are getting ready to make a trade.

So that would mean that they'd be getting more players than they are sending out?

So unlikely to be a Bulls trade.

[ChettheJet]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

It could well be that AK is floating the FRP idea to some blogger who loves to think he's getting a scoop, just to see if the phone rings before he finalizes the deal he's looking at

First, a two team deal looks all the more difficult to match both sides with players, picks and salaries. When you don't limit it to a two team trade, it's more difficult for us here to imagine who that third team is but it opens up many more possibilities. Vuc would be going to a playoff team so the pick projects to be in the 20's so maybe his destination has a roster that's close to signed for next season so they don't want to keep a FRP to take a guaranteed contract when they could draft a 2nd round project. Second. Don't rule out HOU and OKC being involved since they have multiple picks for the next few years, maybe they get somebody they like for being a facilitator with a pick.

Third. I remain interested in what path PORT finally decides to take; keep and play their veterans in hopes of winning and trade some of the youth they have assembled or the opposite, move the veterans to contenders for kids and pick and play the youth and see who develops by the end of the year. Not that popular but I still would like to get Ayton and would be fine with sending PORT back their pick a part of a deal. Fourth. I would monitor what the Spurs might do, if there's any way to get the 2025 pick back or even send them someone to change the protection to a lower number.

I would be interested in scooping up Paul Reed, he and Smith would cover the 5 spot and increase the take back options for Vuc.

[Guru]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

This board is the best.

AK is terrible is the conclusion and then it's trying to find logic for that conclusion.

It's like a choose your own adventure book.
If you think that AK is the worst because he isn't getting enough for Vuc turn to page 23.
if you think that AK is the worst because he is asking for too much for Vuc turn to page 47.

It's a conclusion that somehow any evidence leads too.

[Dez]

AK overplaying his had for a 1st. Shocked if he gets it without taking back bad contract.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/278395/Bulls-Seeking-First-Round-Pick-For-Nikola-Vucevic

This board is the best.

AK is terrible is the conclusion and then it's trying to find logic for that conclusion.

It's like a choose your own adventure book.
If you think that AK is the worst because he isn't getting enough for Vuc turn to page 23.
if you think that AK is the worst because he is asking for too much for Vuc turn to page 47.

It's a conclusion that somehow any evidence leads too.

There's plenty of evidence to suggest AKME is terrible, what are you smoking?

[step]

Our top 10 pick in this draft is much more valuable than anything we will get for Vuc.

This...

AA

They can always have Vuc fake an injury or nurse a real one. And I don't think trading Vuc makes the Bulls automatically worse.

Not really... the league loves to make an example of the Bulls in anything/everything shady.