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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:04 am
by The Letter V
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:22 am
by The Letter V
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:01 am
by hype_2004
We need Rasho Nesterovic on steroids, A bulked up Rasho with anger issues is going to be 1 scary dude

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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:38 am
by AlvinWilliams_fan
does anyone rememebr the portland game this past sunday when the showed travis outlaw being one of the gatorade xfactors. they showed bo outlaw's pic got me

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:32 pm
by TheMainEvent
AlvinWilliams_fan wrote:does anyone rememebr the portland game this past sunday when the showed travis outlaw being one of the gatorade xfactors. they showed bo outlaw's pic got me

Yeah, I saw that too. I'm assuming they just got the pic from NBA.com without double checking or something... cuz I remember NBA.com's player profile of Travis Outlaw had Bo's picture as well. But NBA.com has fixed that already.
Oh and uhhhh... I'd love to get Jeff Foster. He's not a great shooter, so BC probably wont like him too much... and he has a fairly large contract. But I really like his rebounding, toughness, and hustle. And despite what his face tells you, I've read that he's a nice guy... so BC would like that.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:38 pm
by BiggerthanBoykins
Nick Collison, would do wonders for us. I doubt Sonics would let him go though.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:51 pm
by right between the eyes
I can't believe PJ Brown is still a free agent. He would be exactly what the doctor ordered. Solid veteran big man rebounder. Only problem is he would probably prefer a championship contender.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:41 pm
by bill russell
The Letter V wrote:If Chicago is seriously considering moving Tyrus Thomas, if I'm BC, I do everything in my power to put a package together for him without including any core player.
Anthony Parker
Rights to Ukic
2008 1st unprotected
Future picks
Cash
this is an interesting point. it's bothered me for the last week or two that colangelo would sign ukic and then announce he's looking to trade for a point guard, when we've already got TJ and Jose (whom he's promising to sign), and Martin for the end of the year. gave us too much at one position. i hadn't considered that Ukic might simply be trade bait.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:17 pm
by C Court
The only advice I have for Bryan Colangelo is for god sakes, do not pay attention to anything that's posted on RealGM.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:28 pm
by fame
For thoes of you asking for Tyrus Thomas. Unfortunatley I think Toronto is an even worse situation for him than Chicago.
1) The fans will eat him alive after a while. He's more raw, less offensively talented, and even more foul prone than Bargnani himself. If Bargs gets ripped on this bad then Tyrus would probably get it even worse.
2) Mitchell would mess up his development. I honestly have doubts that Mitchell can even coach a young player and develop him. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing with Bargnani, he already stunted Joey Graham's development, maybe even Araujo could of ended up a better player had he started his career somewhere else.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:39 pm
by Nolan
We already have one his name is Kris Humphries.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:57 pm
by ruckus
A few points:
1) The Rasho trade was a great move by BC. When that trade was made, the team needed a change in direction and attitude. Although his contributions don't really show up in the stats sheet, he brought experience and a winning attitude to a team that was severely lacking in those 2 attributes. It was sad that we had to give up the Red Rocket but, its a give and take business.
2) If you bring in a banger, you need to consider the impact on your roster. Whose minutes will this guy get? Bargs? If so, that means we're effectively giving up on the guy. Which means no trade value if that would be the next move. Do you take away Hump's minutes? Only if the guy coming in is an upgrade. Personally, I think Hump has played exceptionally well in the role he's been given.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:04 pm
by Kordic27
fame wrote:For thoes of you asking for Tyrus Thomas. Unfortunatley I think Toronto is an even worse situation for him than Chicago.
1) The fans will eat him alive after a while. He's more raw, less offensively talented, and even more foul prone than Bargnani himself. If Bargs gets ripped on this bad then Tyrus would probably get it even worse.
2) Mitchell would mess up his development. I honestly have doubts that Mitchell can even coach a young player and develop him. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing with Bargnani, he already stunted Joey Graham's development, maybe even Araujo could of ended up a better player had he started his career somewhere else.
What about Bosh? Or TJ? Or Jose?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:13 pm
by Jimmy The Greek
Reggie Evans or Kurt Thomas would be great on this team.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:16 pm
by fame
Kordic27 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
What about Bosh? Or TJ? Or Jose?
Bosh was here before Mitchell. I think his development can be attributed to having different systems and styles of coaching around him during his career with Kevin O'neil and Sam Mitchell.
TJ has played more career games with The Milwaukee Bucks than The Raps. So part of his development must be attributed to there system.
With Calderon I might give him credit for. But Calderon was already 24 when he came to the team, and had loads and loads of experience playing in Europe.
Now that I think of it...I think Mitchell does a fine job developing point guards/guards..But as evidenced by Araujo and Bargnani. He seems to have trouble with bigmen.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:20 pm
by The_Hater
bill russell wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
sucks to be chicago. wonder if they'd ever give up on noah. he seems to have bounced back well from his tantrum. 11 rebounds last game. he's probably not an immediate solution but he'll be a good banger in this league
They'd probably want Bargs. And while Bargs is struggling, I can't say I like Noah quite
that much.
Think I'd consider trading Bargs for Thomas though. They're both in that 'struggling with their current teams' rut.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:32 pm
by Kordic27
fame wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Bosh was here before Mitchell. I think his development can be attributed to having different systems and styles of coaching around him during his career with Kevin O'neil and Sam Mitchell.
TJ has played more career games with The Milwaukee Bucks than The Raps. So part of his development must be attributed to there system.
With Calderon I might give him credit for. But Calderon was already 24 when he came to the team, and had loads and loads of experience playing in Europe.
Now that I think of it...I think Mitchell does a fine job developing point guards/guards..But as evidenced by Araujo and Bargnani. He seems to have trouble with bigmen.
True that all these guys were influenced by their past teams/coaches, but I think that Bosh/TJ/Jose show that Mitchell can be a positive influence on young players (for all we know). And I don't think that Hoffa and Bargs are evidence that Sam has trouble with bigmen - If I was 7 ft tall and went down to the ACC today, and Mitchell couldn't turn me into a good NBA player, where would you place the blame?
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:32 pm
by Kordic27
fame wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Bosh was here before Mitchell. I think his development can be attributed to having different systems and styles of coaching around him during his career with Kevin O'neil and Sam Mitchell.
TJ has played more career games with The Milwaukee Bucks than The Raps. So part of his development must be attributed to there system.
With Calderon I might give him credit for. But Calderon was already 24 when he came to the team, and had loads and loads of experience playing in Europe.
Now that I think of it...I think Mitchell does a fine job developing point guards/guards..But as evidenced by Araujo and Bargnani. He seems to have trouble with bigmen.
True that all these guys were influenced by their past teams/coaches, but I think that Bosh/TJ/Jose show that Mitchell can be a positive influence on young players (for all we know). And I don't think that Hoffa and Bargs are evidence that Sam has trouble with bigmen - If I was 7 ft tall and went down to the ACC today, and Mitchell couldn't turn me into a good NBA player, where would you place the blame?