1/21/08 Game Thread Monday

Storm Surge · Post #41 » by **Storm Surge** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:45 pm

swede wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Otaaaaaaaaaaaayy

hold me to it

2poor · Post #42 » by **2poor** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:51 pm

Hornets officially sit atop the Southwest Division.

deeney0 · Post #43 » by **deeney0** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:52 pm

Marko Jaric is 2 rebounds shy of a triple double at the start of the 4th for the Wolves.

Black Jesus 1 · Post #44 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:28 pm

109-108 Minny .. 6.9 left, GS Ball

Give it to Baron, he has to attack the rim though

deeney0 · Post #45 » by **deeney0** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:29 pm

Wolves win!

Black Jesus 1 · Post #46 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:30 pm

Minnesota won.

Davis' lay up just missed as did Harrington's tip

Post #47 » by **dockingsched** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:32 pm

warriors can't afford to be giving these games away. making the playoffs is going to come down to 2-3 games.

G35 · Post #48 » by **G35** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:42 pm

miller31time wrote:Just to clarify (so people don't think I'm pulling numbers out of my ass), we were 3rd in defensive efficiency last season prior to Arenas and Butler getting injured at the end of last season (so, about 70 games through). We finished the season 5th.

http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/2007/

You know if Gilbert is able to come back and provide another capable defender and let Caron and Antwan carry the offense the Wizards are going to be trouble, TROUBLE for teams in the playoff's......

J~Rush · Post #49 » by **J~Rush** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:43 pm

Barkley guarantees heat win.

Papercut · Post #50 » by **Papercut** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:45 pm

Storm Surge wrote:Blazers will play worse in the 2nd half of the season than 1st half

I think you're confused: it's Adelman's teams that consistently choke down the stretch. McMillan's teams consistently over-achieve.

Suns_Fever · Post #51 » by **Suns_Fever** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:47 pm

I HAVE A DREAM

queridiculo · Post #52 » by **queridiculo** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:53 pm

G35 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You know if Gilbert is able to come back and provide another capable defender and let Caron and Antwan carry the offense the Wizards are going to be trouble, TROUBLE for teams in the playoff's......

Bringing back one of the most efficient scorers in the league to let him play defense and let Jamison and Butler carry the offense? Now I've heard it all.

Jamison's and Butler's averages are only up slightly from last year when Arenas had one of his most prolific seasons as a scorer.

If anything they need Arenas back to keep teams from crowding Butler and to get an inside scoring threat.

prekazi · Post #53 » by **prekazi** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:01 am

Arenas' last season FG %41.8, you call that efficient?

Charlie78 · Post #54 » by **Charlie78** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:11 am

Storm Surge wrote:Blazers will play worse in the 2nd half of the season than 1st half I hope

Fixed it for you

Post #55 » by **Rafael122** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:21 am

Why is Mike Fratello whispering?

G35 · Post #56 » by **G35** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:34 am

hermitkid wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Bringing back one of the most efficient scorers in the league to let him play defense and let Jamison and Butler carry the offense? Now I've heard it all.

Jamison's and Butler's averages are only up slightly from last year when Arenas had one of his most prolific seasons as a scorer.

If anything they need Arenas back to keep teams from crowding Butler and to get an inside scoring threat.

Yeah that's what I think.

The Wizards are playing great right now. The chemistry seems to be right.

So what do you think would be more disruptive:

a. Arenas coming back into his traditional role of 20 shot attempts a game

or

b. Arenas taking 10-12 shots and putting more energy into his defense

It's an easy call to me. No one gets mad at someone defending too hard, but taking too many shots; yeah people can get irritated with that. Especially since the Wiz are winning.......

Post #57 » by **miller31time** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:37 am

prekazi wrote:Arenas' last season FG %41.8, you call that efficient?

No respectable statistician uses field goal percentage anymore. It is an unnecessary stat since the introduction of the 3pt line.

They, instead, use TS% and eFG% among other things, and Arenas ranks as one of the most efficient scorers in the nba. He hits a decent portion of his 3's (something he takes a lot of - more than 7 per game, IIRC, last season) and gets to the free throw line a ton (2nd in free throws made and attempted last season, IIRC) while being able to hit over 82% of the aforementioned free throws.

There's a reason the Wizards have gone from 3rd in offensive efficiency with a healthy Arenas to 12th without Arenas.

Post #58 » by **miller31time** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:41 am

G35 wrote:Yeah that's what I think.

The Wizards are playing great right now. The chemistry seems to be right.

So what do you think would be more disruptive:

a. Arenas coming back into his traditional role of 20 shot attempts a game

or

b. Arenas taking 10-12 shots and putting more energy into his defense

It's an easy call to me. No one gets mad at someone defending too hard, but taking too many shots; yeah people can get irritated with that. Especially since the Wiz are winning.......

At first (meaning the first 5 games or so), he will be coming off the bench -- something he has already publically stated. This will already mean less shot attempts and a less prominent role on our team for Gilbert.

But don't fool yourself, the key is to get this team back to how it was offensively last season - giving the best and most efficient scorer (Gilbert) the most scoring opportunities.

It bears repeating again - with Arenas, we are an ultra-efficient offensive team. The problem has always been defense. Defense has been corrected this year and will only improve with Arenas' return, as will the offensive (in time).

Tesla · Post #59 » by **Tesla** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:01 am

Wizards are playing really well, but Arenas will make them even better. Its not like Arenas is some kind of cancer we are talking about... A player usually takes a lot of volume shots because its what helps the team stay in or win the game. Now, because of many factors, the Wizards won't need that many volume shots from one player. I expect Arenas to take less shots when he comes back, and like any good player, just play to win (within the team).

Wizards2Lottery · Post #60 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:50 am

Tesla wrote:Wizards are playing really well, but Arenas will make them even better. Its not like Arenas is some kind of cancer we are talking about... A player usually takes a lot of volume shots because its what helps the team stay in or win the game. Now, because of many factors, the Wizards won't need that many volume shots from one player. I expect Arenas to take less shots when he comes back, and like any good player, just play to win (within the team).

Exactly. Arenas is one of the most explose guards in the league and our best player at getting to the line. Getting him will only help out Butler and Jamison but for some reason people want to think Antonio Daniels is a better than option than him.