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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:41 am
by MikeIsGood
xTitan wrote:I have not heard of Jacob Jenkins, what is his story? Is Isiah Nunn the 6'5" kid from Moline who plays for Mayville High Schools old coach there? Or am I off on that one?


Jacob is a sharpshooter. He's a high-octane scorer and he has proven this year that he can really light it up from outside. I believe he is shooting near a 50% clip from three this season (Junior). He plays in a very tough conference in Kentucky and he has done well in tournaments against top competition. He has nice size to boot (listed 6'4 or 6'5), and a great release. I get a lot of great info on him from someone who knows him and is kind enough to share the info with Badger fans. I'll round up some of the best of it and get back to you.

As an aside, he currently holds offers from Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, Notre Dame, Butler, Dayton along with Wisconsin (among other, smaller schools). I also remember reading that Florida and Indiana have shown him interest.

Isiah Nunn does play for Moline - you are correct. He scored something like 36 points against former UW target, and current Illini commit, Joseph Bertrand (one of the top perimeter players in the class). Over a five game stretch in January, he put up 30 with 10 boards. Reports I've read say he worked very hard over the past summer so that he could make an impact his final season and try to earn a scholarship offer to a major program. It sounds like he's a true perimeter scoring threat - shooting and slashing. He's worked hard on his defense and three point shot. Cites Wisconsin and Iowa as his favorites. Neither have yet offered.

You're right on with the coach. I can't think of his name, but he has connections with Bo Ryan. Cap Times had a nice article on this kid a couple weeks ago. I'll try to find it and post it with that info on Jenkins.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:46 am
by xTitan
Thanks for the info Mike, I really hope Bo can land a thouroughbred wing or 2, this team needs that so bad. I thought I had heard Nunn had yet to qualify, thats why some teams were staying back, but not sure.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:48 am
by MikeIsGood
xTitan wrote:Thanks for the info Mike, I really hope Bo can land a thouroughbred wing or 2, this team needs that so bad. I thought I had heard Nunn had yet to qualify, thats why some teams were staying back, but not sure.


It sounds like he has a qualifying GPA/class rank, but an ACT score might be the issue. He's going to be retaking it per the Cap Times article, which I found...

Badgers Eye High-Scoring Prep From Moline

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:51 am
by xTitan
MikeIsGood wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



It sounds like he has a qualifying GPA/class rank, but an ACT score might be the issue. He's going to be retaking it per the Cap Times article, which I found...

Badgers Eye High-Scoring Prep From Moline


Thanks for the info Mike.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:07 am
by El Duderino
While i'd like the Badgers to get a bit more athletic, it's pretty hard for me to complain about how Ryan recruits given all the success he's had.

The state of Wisconsin has moments of turning out good recruits, but it's hardly the most fertile of in state recruiting grounds. Mix in that Wisconsin has no basketball tradition outside the last 10 years or so and Bo is largely responsible for that.

Ryan has to make sure any recruit fits the system he runs and can qualify academically, Wisconsin doesn't let in nearly anyone like some schools do.

To bad they don't allow trades in college ball. Wisconsin and Marquette would make ideal trading partners. Crean can't recruit any decent bigs if his life depended on it, but Ryan has plenty of them and could use one of the many skilled/athletic guards/SF's that Crean has.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:25 am
by MikeIsGood
Here's Jenkins' Rivals profile. I'm not sure what of it you can/cannot see - I forgot what it's like not having a subscription :)

Unfortunately, the board I would be getting this info from keeps regular maintenance and only goes back about 5 pages of topics, so a lot of the info I was hoping to find has been deleted from the system. But here's what I can remember, and what I did find.

To start off, he was recently named the state of Kentucky's Player of the Week after leading his High School (Manual) to its first Louisville Invitational title for the first time since 1959. Here's a short video of him from a local news station which showcases his shot (cannot view in Mozilla). You can see he has solid elevation on his jumper, releases at a high point with good rotation, and overall has just a smooth shot. The site makes one error, though. He is a Junior. Class of 09.

http://www.hsgametime.com/louisville/co ... f8e6f.html

He regularly lights up from outside, and many times this season he has only missed two or three shots in a game. Seems to hit at least three 3-pointers a game, and as seen in this article from earlier in January, sometimes he lights up for five of them in one quarter. Some consider him to be one of the best shooters in the region (Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, etc). Over the summer, he lit up an AAU match at Assembly Hall against some of the top Junior competition in America (a team that includes Stephen Van Treese and Jordan Prosser) and was the weekend's leading scorer. It sounds like Kentucky does not have a scholarship to offer him in 09, and it's believed Louisville has not offered because of other SG commits and depth. Thinks highly of UW's coaching staff and team.

[url=http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/2007/04/jacob-jenkins-update.html]Here's another article from over the summer during the AAU circuit.
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Major thanks to "7thPride" for the info. Really appreciate everything he is kind enough to share.

I'm still looking for season averages...

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:47 am
by MikeIsGood
Diamond Taylor committed to the Badgers today. With two commits in the 2009 class, now, and as the coaches continue to actively pursue another swing in the 2008 class, from what we know now I see no way Jacob Jenkins is in the Badgers' future. With likely one other 2009 scholly left, it's likely to be saved should Jamil Wilson indicate that he'd like to become a Badger, or even to wait on the grades of someone like Rodney Williams up in Minnesota. I could be wrong, but at this point I just don't see it. We'll see if anything is freed up this summer.

I think it's most likely they turn their attention at this point to finding the player they seem to think is missing from the 2008 class. Isiah Nunn appears to be pursued, still, as well as some others. Beyond that, they should start making headway in the 2010 class, which is promising in-state with players like Vander Blue, Evan Anderson, and Flavien Davis. At this point, all three are being recruited by major programs.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:59 am
by Mags FTW
Do you subscribe to rivals? They said they know when Jamil Wilson will make his decision.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 2:52 pm
by LUKE23
Huge get, need to start making inroads to Chicago for recruiting and this should help. Mike, do you have a scouting report on Taylor? I know he's light of build and very athletic, that's about it.

The other thing to take out of this is it kind of seems that UW's chances of landing Jamil Wilson are getting worse by the day. We have 2 of the 3 2009 schollies already taken, and he's not going to announce until March of 2009 I believe. Doubt Ryan waits that long.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 3:43 pm
by xTitan
LUKE23 wrote:Huge get, need to start making inroads to Chicago for recruiting and this should help. Mike, do you have a scouting report on Taylor? I know he's light of build and very athletic, that's about it.

The other thing to take out of this is it kind of seems that UW's chances of landing Jamil Wilson are getting worse by the day. We have 2 of the 3 2009 schollies already taken, and he's not going to announce until March of 2009 I believe. Doubt Ryan waits that long.


You beat me to it! Mike what can you tell us about Diamond??? Hopefully he is not to rough :rofl: ..that was bad. I believe UW has 1 schollie left for 09, some kid from Minnesota already committed and what I understand he is a bit of a project. I also heard that the Wilson kid from Racine won't commit until 1 year from today, thats a long time to wait, does UW have a chance for him? I also caught some of the Eau Claire/Tosa East game last night and that Soph Evan Anderson is going to be a beast....any word on him yet?

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 3:48 pm
by LUKE23
No word on Evan Anderson yet but we appear to be the favorites at this moment from what I've read. He's only a sophomore so he probably won't announce until next year.

Found a couple things on Diamond Taylor. This guy says he's the best player in the Illinois 2009 class right now:

http://citysuburbanhoopsreport...-top-of-09.html

Sounds like his stock is really rising. His father also teaches a summer fundamentals camp, so that must have really been something Bo liked.

As far as overall ranking, here's a link (#67 overall and #14 SG in 2009, and rising):

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/ ... _key=68239

I don't think the chances of us landing Jamil Wilson are very good, which sucks. But I don't see Bo holding the final scholarship until March of next year to see if he commits. All the backup plans for Wilson would be gone at that point.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:01 pm
by MikeIsGood
xTitan wrote:You beat me to it! Mike what can you tell us about Diamond??? Hopefully he is not to rough :rofl: ..that was bad. I believe UW has 1 schollie left for 09, some kid from Minnesota already committed and what I understand he is a bit of a project. I also heard that the Wilson kid from Racine won't commit until 1 year from today, thats a long time to wait, does UW have a chance for him? I also caught some of the Eau Claire/Tosa East game last night and that Soph Evan Anderson is going to be a beast....any word on him yet?


Here is some info on Diamond Taylor. This comes from over the past summer when Diamond first started to really make headway up the rankings. It's written by Joe Henricksen, who has been covering Illinois High School basketball with the Suburban Hoops Report for 13 years.

There will be people out there that may call it ludicrous, but the Hoops Report now believes Taylor is, along with Bertrand, one of the two best college prospects in the Class of 2009. This is a kid some people don't even have in their top 10 in the class of 2009. After watching Taylor for two days at the Illinois Satellite Camp at Moody Bible Institute, Taylor showed he is without question the most complete scorer in the junior class. He has a beautiful stroke and rotation on his shot from three-point range, has already developed a mid-range game with a nice pull-up jumper for a prospect with his amount of experience and, despite his slight build, he's not afraid to take it to the basket.

While his slender frame and overall lack of strength is still clearly his biggest drawback and often prevents him from finishing around the basket consistently, his scoring mentality and capabilities are so far above and beyond the other top players in this class. He still has work to do and he knows it, whether it be improving as a ballhandler, getting a stronger off-hand or adding weight and strength. Nonetheless, Taylor, who played minor minutes off the bench for St. Joe's last season, will be a coveted high-major prospect after playing this summer with Mike Mullins' Illinois Wolves and Gene Pingatore's young St. Joseph team.


Following tournaments over the past holiday season (i.e. more recent), this was Joe's updated list of the top prospects in Illinois. Numbers 1, 2, and 4 are Illinois commits. Bertrand, 2, was a major UW target.

1. Brandon Paul, 6-4, 2G, Gurnee (Warren)
2. Joseph Bertrand, 6-5, 2G/WF, Sterling
3. Diamond Taylor, 6-3, 2G, Westchester (St. Joseph)
4. D.J. Richardson, 6-3, PG/2G, Peoria (Central)
5. Jack Cooley, 6-8, PF, Glenview (Glenbrook South)
6. Chris Colvin, 6-2, PG, Chicago (Whitney Young)
7. Jordan Prosser, 6-8, PF, Eureka
8. Dyricus Simms-Edwards, 6-1, PG, Washington
9. Michael Haynes, 6-6, WF/PF, Chicago (Washington)
10. Marcus Jordan, 6-2, 2G, Chicago (Whitney Young)
11. Darius Smith, 6-2, PG, Chicago (Marshall)
12. Nik Garcia, 6-5, 2G, Skokie (Niles West)
13. Kyle Rowley, 6-11, C, Lake Forest (Academy)


I went down through number 13 for a reason. It's largely believed that Rowley is shooting up Illinois Prep lists because of his size and work ethic. Most reports I've read maintain that he's still very raw, though. He does have UW interest.

Finding info on Diamond can be a real pain in the ass. All recruiting services have had a hard time getting a hold of him, and it's been hard to get a hold of his stats. I would assume he wants to stay away from it all, which I wholeheartedly respect, but it makes armchair analysis a bit more difficult.

I've always taken a liking to Diamond, mostly because his legendary coach (Gene Pingatore) speaks so highly of him. He doesn't tout his kids up needlessly either - the ones he praises have generally become solid-to-great players for power conference teams. Evan Turner, who considered Wisconsin before choosing Ohio State, comes from the same school. Before the season he sort-of appointed Diamond as the guy that needed to step up and take control of the team.

Reports I've read say it's been a learning process so far. He still has development to do in many areas, mainly gaining strength as he really is a scrawny kid. At 6'3/6'4, 160 pounds is pretty slight. That said, it has been said that he has been trying to bulk up in preparation for college play, and I would assume he has gained weight since I last saw the numbers. 160 is probably a low estimate now.

He's quick and athletic. He has the tools to be great on perimeter defense, but as said he really needs to gain the proper strength to pair with lateral quickness. But he's able to apply his quickness when driving to the hoop, which it sounds as if he does quite well despite underdeveloped ball skills. IIRC, I believe he was going to be taking on more point guard duties this year (though not total PG responsibilities). In the past that has not been the case and he has been more of a pure 2-guard. But make no mistake about it, by all accounts I've read he has a complete scorers mentality. Good shot from deep, has developed it midrange, and able to finish at the hoop. It sounds as if he'll best be able to flourish when kept in that role.

He has habitually gotten compared to Devin because of the way he plays and the interest he has always had in Wisconsin. We have long been his leader, even before Illinois obtain commits from the other in-state players (meaning it was no longer an option for Diamond). I saw this commit as an eventual inevitability, to be honest. I'm glad he pulled the trigger when he did, but with one more scholly likely left for the 2009 class (and as they continue to pursue another 2008 swingman), it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. If Williams gets his grades in check and wants to come to Wisconsin, I have a hard time believing Bo would say no in order to wait it out on Jamil for another year. Because if Wilson ends up going to Marquette like many believe, we're left out to dry. That's very late in the game to be searching for another major contributer. Best not to do that two years in a row.

Moving to 2010, it's largely believed that we are Anderson's favorites at this point, and he has expressed his desire to make an announcement before his Junior season. It would be a good start to the 2010 class, which I also want to eventually add Vander Blue to. I hope to catch more of the tournament today to see some of these guys for myself. At this point I haven't heard much great praise for Evan despite the high rankings, but it seems to largely be a ranking based on potential more than anything else. I think it's likely he just needs to add strength, and take more control of the team when he becomes an upperclassmen.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:05 pm
by LUKE23
Vander Blue can really play. As a former Memorial alum myself, I practiced with the Memorial team a few times this winter. Extremely skilled and athletic player. Anderson and Blue would be a nice 2010 class. :lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:28 pm
by MikeIsGood
At this point, from what I have seen, I'm much more tense about adding Blue to the class. No offense to Anderson, and I would love to have him too, but I've seen more from Blue at this point and I've already heard Evan is a lean.

Can't forget Flavien, either, though. It's yet to be seen how many schollys will be available in the 2010 class, but it'd be incredible to lock up what has become probably the most highly-ranked (early evaluation), in-state recruiting class in years. Flavien is receiving elite interest at this point according to ESPN. While he has two offers at this point (Marquette, Baylor), which is normal for a Sophomore, he has received interest from Georgetown, Arizona, Pittsburgh, and Wisconsin among others. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's the best of the bunch.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:31 pm
by MikeIsGood
Be sure to turn on ABC tonight at 6:30 and watch Jeronne Maymon, Vander Blue, and the rest of Madison Memorial play.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:43 pm
by xTitan
MikeIsGood wrote:Be sure to turn on ABC tonight at 6:30 and watch Jeronne Maymon, Vander Blue, and the rest of Madison Memorial play.


Watched them yesterday, very impressed with Blue, appears to be a legit 6'3" and I thought he was unselfish...showed some good PG instincts and only a soph. I am surprised at how impressed I was with Anderson, so big and only a soph, if he has a work ethic he should be a monster by the time he is a senior....also have heard great things about Davis...he is in a Milwaukee city school isn't he??

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 7:10 pm
by MikeIsGood
That's right. Milwaukee Lutheran.

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 7:17 pm
by MikeIsGood
Month-ish old Vander Blue Article:

Blue certainly has found a home on the basketball court. He scored a season-high 23 points in a loss to Benilde-St. Margaret's (Minn.), the top-ranked team in Minnesota's Class AAA

Posted: Fri Mar 7, 2008 10:05 pm
by MajorDad
Purdue has three commits for 2009 so far. they are all 3 star players and all are from indiana. They only have 2 s o far for 2008. they lost out on a 5 star center named Zeller who decided to go to UNC. he would have been their first 5 star recruit since Big Dog and mike robinson - last century. Purdue is still looking for a big man center. I noticed purdue was recruiting taylor , but lost out to Wisconsin.

Some familier names both UW and purdue are recruiting are pg Chris Colvin out of Chicago, pg mike dixon from KC; SG colt ryan from indiana; centers Still, rowley and Sherman(MSU is firs t choice, NOTRE DAME and purdue is his third choisce); sf Wilso n fro m racine, although purdue alrread y has 2 other SF commits , so i doubt they'd sign a third SF in the same recruiting class. pf jordan prosser (visited iowa, but was not impressed, doesn't like IU with the Sampson scandel) and Treese are being recruited..

I believe purdue has a scholarship left from 2008 they could use for their 2009 class. Since they already have 3 commits , that would leave space for 2 recruits. I have to believe Purdue will sign the instate indiana prospects. they might steal prosser or Dixon from KC. Signing prosser and rowley would be nice.

Posted: Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:59 am
by MikeIsGood
Vander is off to a fast start tonight. I've seen 7 points and an assist with about 5 left in the second quarter. Memorial held O-West to 4 in the first quarter. I really do not foresee anyone but Memorial winning the Championship. Could be wrong...