Fake Trade Thread III

[Elden Payton]

Rudy Gay would set our franchise back years.

What? I don't see that at all. He's only contracted through next year. He has one more year on his contract than Ben Gordon. He'd come cheap and for his cheap price he'd make more impact than anyone Henderson could return.

Rudy Gay would leave us with no cap space for this upcoming offseason, the only thing we could trade for him is Gordon who's salary makes up 75 percent of our 2014 free agency warchest.

Rudy Gay would set us back.

[JDR720]

Gordon is a FA after this season, that is 13 of our 20million in FA money, and besides trading for Gay might make us good enough to lose our pick to Chicago

[MasterIchiro]

Rudy Gay would set our franchise back years.

What? I don't see that at all. He's only contracted through next year. He has one more year on his contract than Ben Gordon. He'd come cheap and for his cheap price he'd make more impact than anyone Henderson could return.

Rudy Gay would leave us with no cap space for this upcoming offseason, the only thing we could trade for him is Gordon who's salary makes up 75 percent of our 2014 free agency warchest.

Rudy Gay would set us back.

What is the point of a war chest if there are no free agents worth it in 2014-2015? Jefferson - Gay - Kemba makes us a legit playoff contender for one season as the Hornets again. We round out the roster with Zeller, Biyombo, MKG, our first rounder in 2014, the POR pick, the DET pick etc.

So how does that set us back "years"?

Can you see how I don't see it?

[Liver_Pooty]

could probably package Gerald,Taylor and McBoob to get a border line All-Star like a Nicolas Batum

Portland is infatuated with Batum. It would take way more than that to pry him away.

[MasterIchiro]

could probably package Gerald,Taylor and McBoob to get a border line All-Star like a Nicolas Batum

Portland is infatuated with Batum. It would take way more than that to pry him away.

Ya think?

[Liver_Pooty]

The only person that I am somewhat interested in off of the Raptors is Demar Derozan. He seems to be finally coming around as a player this pre season and thus far in the regular season, and although he might be slightly overpaid I don't think its anything drastic.

[JDR720]

we have around 20mill in cap for this upcoming offseason, lets say that 3 1st round picks take 5 mill of that so then we have 15 to spend as we like, we could go several ways with that money to improve the team and Rudy's Gays salary is 19mill....so we would be 4million over the cap, we couldn't do anything at all in the offseason

[Liver_Pooty]

we have around 20mill in cap for this upcoming offseason, lets say that 3 1st round picks take 5 mill of that so then we have 15 to spend as we like, we could go several ways with that money to improve the team and Rudy's Gays salary is 19mill....so we would be 4million over the cap, we couldn't do anything at all in the offseason

If we can't address our shooting woes with our draft picks and 15 million in space than something is seriously wrong.

[MasterIchiro]

we have around 20mill in cap for this upcoming offseason, lets say that 3 1st round picks take 5 mill of that so then we have 15 to spend as we like, we could go several ways with that money to improve the team and Rudy's Gays salary is 19mill....so we would be 4million over the cap, we couldn't do anything at all in the offseason

McBob will decline his option and then you can package any multiple picks (if it comes to that) for just one pick. Problem solved. You also get rid of Haywood (along with Gordon) in that deal.

[JDR720]

The only person that I am somewhat interested in off of the Raptors is Demar Derozan. He seems to be finally coming around as a player this pre season and thus far in the regular season, and although he might be slightly overpaid I don't think its anything drastic.

I think he is in the border line all-star group of players like Kemba and Al, he is overpaid but its not that bad for a guy that can get 20p 4r 3a a game, jumpshot isn't that great but he is a super athlete, would kill Hendo 1v1

[catch20two]

I was interested in the Rudy Gay trade last year. I looked at him as temporary talent to make us better and a huge cap relief when he expires around the time we'd have to extend Kemba. I'm a little wary of it now because Gay was traded last year. I tend to think players lose their confidence with comfortability the more they change scenery. I probably still wouldn't mind it but like I said I would be wary.

[Liver_Pooty]

we have around 20mill in cap for this upcoming offseason, lets say that 3 1st round picks take 5 mill of that so then we have 15 to spend as we like, we could go several ways with that money to improve the team and Rudy's Gays salary is 19mill....so we would be 4million over the cap, we couldn't do anything at all in the offseason

McBob will decline his option and then you can package any multiple picks (if it comes to that) for just one pick. Problem solved. You also get rid of Haywood (along with Gordon) in that deal.

Ill agree that there is no way we keep all three draft picks if we receive all of them this year. Thats just not going to happen.

[JDR720]

yea i also doubt keeping all 3 picks, but if we trade all 3 of them for a higher pick (probably top 5 depending on where are picks end up being) it will still be around 5million to sign that 1 player

[JDR720]

yea i also doubt keeping all 3 picks, but if we trade all 3 of them for a higher pick (probably top 5 depending on where are picks end up being) it will still be around 5million to sign that 1 player

probably better to have 3 players for 5mill combined than 1 player for 5mill would help fill out roster if we kept all of them

[Eoghan]

Fixing our shooting issues via the draft look very dubious to me right now. The draft doesn't seem like it has an overabundance of lights out shooters. Gary Harris and McDermott are the only two I'm aware of that can actually shoot. The rest are streaky guys like Kemba which is okay but we really need a sniper. Time will tell on the incoming one and dones and foreigners like Exum and Hezonja. This is a big reason why I was against the MKG pick. Guys like Drummond don't grow on trees. Guys like MKG (athletic wings generally; Wiggins, Parker, Porter, Giannis, Randle, etc) are almost always in good availability every year. Oh well, ship has sailed.

Please, let's reserve Rudy Gay idiocy for the GB where it belongs. Gay is an awful fit practically everywhere that doesn't have limitless pockets. (So Brooklyn, LA, and NY)

I don't think we can be a good defensive team with Jefferson, he's just so bad you need a DPOY candidate to make the defense competent. Maybe we have one in Biz but they play the same position so we're ****. Zeller plays small, it's in his DNA. He'll never be a great complement to Jefferson either (more of a knock on Al than Zeller).

Find a SG that can actually shoot that his franchise wants to get rid of and swap him with Gerald, take on a little salary if you have to. But get a freaking shooter.

[JDR720]

this draft has a handful of really good 3pt shooters

Gary Harris (42%)
Doug McDermott (49%)
PJ Hairston (39%)
TJ Warren (51%)

2 SG's and 2 SF's

[Liver_Pooty]

Fixing our shooting issues via the draft look very dubious to me right now. The draft doesn't seem like it has an overabundance of lights out shooters. Gary Harris and McDermott are the only two I'm aware of that can actually shoot. The rest are streaky guys like Kemba which is okay but we really need a sniper. Time will tell on the incoming one and dones and foreigners like Exum and Hezonja. This is a big reason why I was against the MKG pick. Guys like Drummond don't grow on trees. Guys like MKG (athletic wings generally; Wiggins, Parker, Porter, Giannis, Randle, etc) are almost always in good availability every year. Oh well, ship has sailed.

Please, let's reserve Rudy Gay idiocy for the GB where it belongs. Gay is an awful fit practically everywhere that doesn't have limitless pockets. (So Brooklyn, LA, and NY)

I don't think we can be a good defensive team with Jefferson, he's just so bad you need a DPOY candidate to make the defense competent. Maybe we have one in Biz but they play the same position so we're ****. Zeller plays small, it's in his DNA. He'll never be a great complement to Jefferson either (more of a knock on Al than Zeller).

Find a SG that can actually shoot that his franchise wants to get rid of and swap him with Gerald, take on a little salary if you have to. But get a freaking shooter.

I can't really argue with anything that you have stated, but I will firmly believe that Drummond will not become anything special. A slightly better DeAndre Jordan is what he will be in my opinion. That being said thats still a pretty damn good player.

[catch20two]

Drummond is already better than DeAndre Jordan if you want to say slightly. Drummond could become a slightly better version of Dwight Howard.

[Eoghan]

this draft has a handful of really good 3pt shooters

Gary Harris (42%)
Doug McDermott (49%)
PJ Hairston (39%)
TJ Warren (51%)

2 SG's and 2 SF's

Not disagreeing, every draft has them but the question is will they be worth drafting where our picks will be? Those last three probably won't be, although McDermott really intrigues me as he's been doing well in international ball. Hairston is a knucklehead, do not want. Warren has slimmed down to play SG this year, he could be a nice later 1st round find but I don't think he has the potential to be a good starter in the NBA, could be wrong. NC State guys aren't exactly setting the league on fire.

I'm a little interested in whether GRIII can play SG in the NBA and how well he shoots. Very good athlete and great size for his position, could be a great complement to MKG. I want to see some fire in him this year, he strikes me as passive.

[Liver_Pooty]

Drummond is already better than DeAndre Jordan if you want to say slightly. Drummond could become a slightly better version of Dwight Howard.

A slightly better version of Dwight Howard? Man, awfully high praise. Thats top 5 center of all time praise right there.