Political Roundtable Part XX

montestewart wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:^^ wrong. crap. lies.^^

here's the deal. everything i have reported on here for the past year has come true.

^^ wrong. crap. lies.^^

you guys said trump colluded. you said it every day for 1.5 years. You lied.

I said HRC and the DNC colluded with steele who colluded with russians. I was right.

you said trump would impeached. you lied.

i said OBAMA DOJ was going down muthaphunkin tizzown!!! I was right.

You guys said Nuclear war!!! You lied.

I said ART of the muthaphunkin deal, baby! NK caved. I was right.

You guys all told us HRC would be pres. You lied.

I said Trump will go down as GOAT pres of the modern era. :nod:

You said Dems were "good people and trump bad person. You lied.

I said Dems were perverts and hypocrits (as another goes down last night). :nod:

You said big blue waving coming. ya lied ta me!!

I said R's hold serve and the only thing cummin is the Drumf train all up in ya mouth!!! :droop:

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TGW · Post #406 » by **TGW** » Wed May 9, 2018 12:17 am

Wizardspride wrote:

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This has a ring of truth to it, and is way more plausible than "Trump is a Putin puppet!"

The Democrats are more wrapped up in the made-up collusion narrative, and not the more plausible laundering narrative. I don't get the strategy at all, other than the Democrats want a built-in excuse not to move to the left.

dckingsfan · Post #407 » by **dckingsfan** » Wed May 9, 2018 12:21 am

TGW wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

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This has a ring of truth to it, and is way more plausible than "Trump is a Putin puppet!"

The Democrats are more wrapped up in the made-up collusion narrative, and not the more plausible laundering narrative. I don't get the strategy at all, other than the Democrats want a built-in excuse not to move to the left.

Always figured Trump had more to lose with regards to his finances.

Wizardspride · Post #408 » by **Wizardspride** » Wed May 9, 2018 12:26 am

TGW wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

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This has a ring of truth to it, and is way more plausible than "Trump is a Putin puppet!"

The Democrats are more wrapped up in the made-up collusion narrative, and not the more plausible laundering narrative. I don't get the strategy at all, other than the Democrats want a built-in excuse not to move to the left.

To be honest, this all fits in with "possible" collusion.

Don't know if you've read the Steele dossier but let's just say there's an awful lot of things that in retrospect make you say "Damn".

closg00 · Post #409 » by **closg00** » Wed May 9, 2018 12:43 am

Wizardspride wrote:
gtn130 wrote:

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It's time we started talking more about the Clinton Foundation, folks

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Holy crap. It's time once-again to play "What if Clinton/Obama did it? Fox News 24/7 coverage

Pointgod · Post #410 » by **Pointgod** » Wed May 9, 2018 1:27 am

TGW wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

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This has a ring of truth to it, and is way more plausible than "Trump is a Putin puppet!"

The Democrats are more wrapped up in the made-up collusion narrative, and not the more plausible laundering narrative. I don't get the strategy at all, other than the Democrats want a built-in excuse not to move to the left.

Look how many of these companies are tied to Russian Oligarchs. Do you think that Putin just sat on his knowledge about the Trump crime family and said neat....

closg00 · Post #411 » by **closg00** » Wed May 9, 2018 1:29 am

Hmm, STD20 has nothing to say about this

JWizmentality · Post #412 » by **JWizmentality** » Wed May 9, 2018 2:27 am

Wtf is going on. Seems the longer this goes on you dig up another Russian. Wonder how long the conservatives of this board keep their head in the sand.

stilldropin20 · Post #413 » by **stilldropin20** » Wed May 9, 2018 2:39 am

closg00 wrote:Hmm, STD20 has nothing to say about this

which "this?"

Schneiderman?

--typical POS liberal dirt bag. pretending to be a hero. Turns out...just another wolf in sheeps clothing.

Iran?

--Bout time. Great day for America!! We now will send a strong signal that we will 100% support regime change. Obviously Israel is on board. We will see who is on board next. I predict China and Russia will both be early and perhaps first to support us which will force gernany, France, and Britain and others to immediately get behind it. We will bomb the crap out of them. protecting and supporting the civil uprising which will happen soon. democracy will return to Iran as it was in the 70's when Iran was a beacon of light for the entire middle east.

Bottom line Obama and kerry were too desperate to make a deal. The focus was on putting "a deal" together. Instead, the focus should have been to prevent Iran from getting Nukes. Now trump will crush them with Sanctions the same way he crushed North Korea.

Something that both North Korea and now Iran will be forced to look at: is Syria. We demolished the entire country in 6 months. :nod:

Trump aint playin around with these douchebags. And its about phuckin time! Appeasement does NOT work. It has never worked. there is no place, no time, no regime where appeasement worked. Aggressive nations will remain aggressive until they get what they want or some/most of it. Appeasement will never work with those Kinds of aggressive nations. there are places on earth where those human beings that only understand one thing: A thorough phuckin ass kicking. Iran is about to punked. Or they can give up the sunset provision among other things in the previous deal.

These "money laundering" lies?

--just more lies from the left to distract from Trump kicking ass and taking names. Unelected officials like Obama and HRC are now and WJC was from 2000-2018 can get paid for private speeches. Especially Trump who is one of the most famous people to ever walk the earth. And that was before the 2015-16 campaign and his historic victory. Right now? He is absolutely, the most famous person of all fricking time. Julius ceasar was this famous. Not while alive.

stilldropin20 · Post #414 » by **stilldropin20** » Wed May 9, 2018 3:48 am

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stilldropin20 · Post #415 » by **stilldropin20** » Wed May 9, 2018 3:50 am

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stilldropin20 · Post #416 » by **stilldropin20** » Wed May 9, 2018 4:17 am

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Post #417 » by **Zonkerbl** » Wed May 9, 2018 4:22 am

dckingsfan wrote:
I_Like_Dirt wrote:I don't think it's a 3rd party that's needed. I do think it's past time for the fiscal conservatives to cross the floor and join the Ds, giving some ground on how the programs will work for attacks on cost drivers. The Ds will resist, of course, because it's what they do, but they desperately need it and are cooked otherwise. That kind of manoeuver is the kind of move that pushes the Rs to actually have to change tactics. Right now they're acting like a party that isn't going to be held accountable, and frankly, unless we see dramatic change at some point, they're right. They might get voted out of office here or there, but realistically their chances at long-term governance aren't going to be impacted no matter how corrupt or discriminatory they might be.

Not that this is a hard and fast rule because clearly everyone is different, but I feel like the reason they push the discriminatory stuff is largely to prevent a more unified exodus like I'm describing. It's pretty clear at this point that people are willing to overlook their better judgment to a higher degree whenever their subconscious (or conscious) beliefs that their skin pigmentation or masculinity somehow makes them superior are being challenged. Of course, it isn't going to stop everyone, but it will stop some, and then will also push others who might lean D to be concerned as well. Realistically, the party titles are irrelevant here - and the Ds also lose step here because while some clearly get it, others just don't and see Ds for life while still dealing with issues that Strom Thurmond was dealing with back when he crossed the floor. It's the issues that matter, not the party, but party names are a great buffer to having to own any particular values or actions directly if you're challenged on them ever.

And realistically, I don't think it would be long for a 3rd party (assuming it wouldn't be marginalized - see Canada) to be overrun by the same issues the Ds and Rs are both facing. Realistically, as a society, people are simply willing to give in on pretty much everything if they don't have to do anything tangible, are told their problems are somebody else's fault, and the people they hate are getting it worse because they're worse people. That holds true around the world, and just happens to be out of hand in America (as well as many other places) at the moment. Societies haven't figured out how to function with the modern social media age. It's an age of mob mentality and that isn't going away.

Yes, the fiscal conservatives crossing over would do it also... I would think the mantra of sustainable would work for the more crunchy Ds. Farming, environment and government... you could extend it to the economy as well

I think the capacity for the Democratic party to absorb fiscal conservatives is a lot greater than people realize. Just a thought.

But there is an ongoing raging debate about how trying to "reform from within" inevitably leads to the corruption of the reformers. Personally I'm torn. I don't like having no choice but to vote Democrat. Just because the other choice is evil doesn't mean I'm happy with the way Dems do things.

stilldropin20 · Post #418 » by **stilldropin20** » Wed May 9, 2018 6:29 am

so let me get this straight:

ATT paid cohen $200k for insight into trump. Perhaps thought they were even buying access. and trump blocked their merger/buyout of CNN??!!!!! :lol:

looks like $200K down the drain!!!

Trump is going to block that merger for as long as he can.

And the other one. Russian, rather an american CEO of a fully american company (with a 3rd cousin in Russia) paid cohen $400K for insight and "access" to trump. And that particular 3rd cousin was sanctioned as was russia???!! :lol:

Again, looks like rubles down the drain!!!

You guys are suckers!! Let me save you guys some Time, Avanatti is pulling your damn leg!!! he is nothing more than a clever little nat. he is holding nothing!! absolutely nothing!!! Thats why he makes so much damn noise. He got nothing.

But that wont stop CNN from having him on 100 times in 2 months!! They live off nothing. And that's why their audience's heads ar efilled with exactly that!! Nothing!! :lol:

AKA. Crap, Lies, and videotape!!

stilldropin20 · Post #419 » by **stilldropin20** » Wed May 9, 2018 6:33 am

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what a douchebag!! they cant stand it that trump is better poker player.

CobraCommander · Post #420 » by **CobraCommander** » Wed May 9, 2018 6:34 am

stilldropin20 wrote:

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Hey have you ever thought that when Trump attempts to erase Obama’s legacy that Trump starts a cycle where the NEXT president erases everything Trump does? Which essentially prevents any progress for our country and THAT causes the failure of our nation? Essentially anything Trump can do the next president can do...

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