New Head Coach Mega Thread

Ccwatercraft · Post #401 » by **Ccwatercraft** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:26 pm

Jvaughn wrote:Nets just hired Steve Nash to 4 year deal. Where the hell did that come from? Was there even talks that were publicized?

Wow, that's out of left field. Wasn't paying close attention but didn't even know he interviewed.

Red8911 · Post #402 » by **Red8911** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 7:51 pm

Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

MoSalad · Post #403 » by **MoSalad** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:03 pm

The Nets roster next year is comically better than any other roster in the east. 60+ wins and a cake walk to the finals would not be crazy.

TheChad708 · Post #404 » by **TheChad708** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:17 pm

Red8911 wrote:Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

Why does Screamin' A act like Kyrie and KD didn't have any input?

ImSlower · Post #405 » by **ImSlower** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:30 pm

Red8911 wrote:Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

I don't recommend paying attention to SAS or any of the other ESPN characters. They are less than Journalists and closer to entertainment roles.

Are you upset that someone with no coaching experience was elevated to an important position? That seemed to be the crux of your opinions on Atkinson and Joerger vs Udoku and Griffin a few weeks back. Now that we are hearing several more names thrown into the hat (and, I noticed, not a peep about Griffin, who a lot of us backed).

kodo · Post #406 » by **kodo** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:48 pm

Pretty cool, I'm excited to see how Nash does as a coach, as one of my favorite floor generals of all time.

I don't know if he'll add wins to a stacked team like the Nets, but Brooklyn has my attention as an entertainment product at least.

Dominator83 · Post #407 » by **Dominator83** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:58 pm

Red8911 wrote:Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

Not to mention, the Bulls 1st choice for that job was an Asian, but Toronto cockblocked us from talking to him

Jeffster81 · Post #408 » by **Jeffster81** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:07 pm

Red8911 wrote:Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

Screamin A Smith has always been a black version of Skip Bayless. A nonsensical moron. SAS always forgets that AK hired a minority to be his GM in Marc Eversley. I agreed, Steven A. comes off a bit racist in his rants. That's why I no longer watch ANYTHING with him on.

StunnerKO · Post #409 » by **StunnerKO** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:15 pm

Chauncey Billups looking to be a coach

Red8911 · Post #410 » by **Red8911** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:18 pm

ImSlower wrote:
Red8911 wrote:Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

I don't recommend paying attention to SAS or any of the other ESPN characters. They are less than Journalists and closer to entertainment roles.

Are you upset that someone with no coaching experience was elevated to an important position? That seemed to be the crux of your opinions on Atkinson and Joerger vs Udoku and Griffin a few weeks back. Now that we are hearing several more names thrown into the hat (and, I noticed, not a peep about Griffin, who a lot of us backed).

Honestly I don’t care who the Nets or any other team hire as their coach but they are in a different situation than the bulls. They basically already have a set team and pretty sure Durant/Irving were on board with Nash. I’m not 100% against new experienced coaches, just think it’s a bad idea for the bulls and this roster.

The bulls need to rebuild and get back to winning. The last two coaches the bulls hired were first time NBA coaches and both were a failure. The best bet for this team right now is to hire an experienced NBA coach. An assistant is always an unknown, sure they could turn out to be good but they could also turn out to be worse than Boylen and Hoiberg.

For me Atkinson and Joerger are safer choices who have proved themselves in this league. This is a big decision for AK and I just hope it works out with whoever they end up getting.

bennjuiced34 · Post #411 » by **bennjuiced34** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:37 pm

I don't think AK and Eversley can mess this up going off the initial candidate interview list. Good names, good resumes.

Right now, my top guys are Unseld, Vanterpool, Craig and Udoka. But I'd likely be happy with any of them.

MrFortune3 · Post #412 » by **MrFortune3** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:42 pm

MoSalad wrote:The Nets roster next year is comically better than any other roster in the east. 60+ wins and a cake walk to the finals would not be crazy.

EH, Kyrie never stays healthy and rubs teammates the wrong way. There will be some severe growing pains.

MrFortune3 · Post #413 » by **MrFortune3** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:44 pm

Red8911 wrote:Nash went from being an analyst for Champions League soccer on TNT to a head coach of the NBA lol. Not sure how he will be as a coach but he was obviously a great player. I wonder if this is who Durant and Irving wanted?

He's also been a consultant with the Warriors since he retired :lol:

MrFortune3 · Post #414 » by **MrFortune3** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:45 pm

pylb wrote:Kirk will be our next GM after Karnisovas gets fired.

And that will be the end of my tenure as a Bulls fan. I can deal with many things, but that right there. Will end it.

Ugly Duckling · Post #415 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:01 pm

MoSalad wrote:The Nets roster next year is comically better than any other roster in the east. 60+ wins and a cake walk to the finals would not be crazy.

Whoa not so fast. We have to see how KD (and Kyrie) recover first

Ugly Duckling · Post #416 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:02 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
pylb wrote:Kirk will be our next GM after Karnisovas gets fired.

And that will be the end of my tenure as a Bulls fan. I can deal with many things, but that right there. Will end it.

Would you be okay with Ben Gordon as our head coach

DannyOcean · Post #417 » by **DannyOcean** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:04 pm

Red8911 wrote:Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

It's kinda ironic that he recommends Mark Jackson. The same Mark Jackson who got his first head coaching gig with the Warriors with no prior coaching experience anywhere.

MrFortune3 · Post #418 » by **MrFortune3** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:13 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
pylb wrote:Kirk will be our next GM after Karnisovas gets fired.

And that will be the end of my tenure as a Bulls fan. I can deal with many things, but that right there. Will end it.

Would you be okay with Ben Gordon as our head coach

No. Not even slightly ok with that.

Post #419 » by **dougthonus** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:17 pm

Red8911 wrote:Stephen A really has a problem with NBA teams hiring white coaches or managers. Today he says Nash only got the job because he’s “white privileged” and should of gave the job to Mark Jackson. Who is he to decide which coach they should get?

Every time teams hires a white guy he wants to shame them. He even had a problem when AK got hired as bulls president. This guy is ridiculous and a bit racist. Nets had their reasons to sign Nash, I’m sure being white wasn’t one of them. Same for AK.

Really not what he said at all.

What he said is:
- He understands the caliber of person that Nash is and understood why he was hired and thinks he'll do well.
- He didn't blame Marks for the hire or Nash for getting the gig, and clearly the hire was cleared by KD/Kyrie
- Nash didn't pay his dues and there are POC candidates whom have
- In these cases, every time it happens there is a reason why it makes sense "this time", but "this time" is most of the time

I don't agree with SAS on this one, but I understand his point. When you see a pattern happen repeatedly, then you can say "why is it this way". That said great PGs are often tagged as guys who go into coaching positions with little experience (Fisher, Kidd, and Jackson are three black PGs that got head coaching jobs with no assistant experience). Nash also worked as a player development consultant with the warriors, but that's fairly akin to assistant coach as well.

Not that he was ripping the Nets for the move, but I do think it is at least a little ironic that the same org did this with Jason Kidd, similar caliber player, first time head coach. So it's not like this was a franchise that hadn't hired a HOF PG to be a head coach nor is it a franchise that was afraid to make this same move with a black HOF PG. That said, different owner and gm made those decisions.

Post #420 » by **dougthonus** » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:22 pm

ChettheJet wrote:At least the Bulls won't be the team doing the most explaining all season why in the hell they hired the guy they did. To pluck Nash out of the third balcony (no left field in basketball) to coach the superstar team. Even Kirk as coach wouldn't be as much of a shock.

I don't think Nash is a shock at all except that perhaps no one knew he was interested. Once you knew he was interested, I don't think anyone goes "Steve Nash as a coach, I don't see it".