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I guess someone on our team has to reach the FT line, right?Wiltside wrote:somerandomdude wrote:Harden's offensive efficiency is way too reliant on drawing fouls and we're a team that's hated by the league so Harden wouldn't thrive here.
Hasn’t impacted Jimmy?
Harden would thrive here, but it’s not gonna happen regardless.
dshearn wrote:Shewasfly wrote:Is Christian Wood a solid defender?
When he was locked in and thought he was playing for the post season with Harden and Wall, i would say he was solid.
He was a block threat and rangy enough to not get pick and rolled to death. I remember thinking at that time he could make a Chris Bosh-esq dedication to pick and roll defense given the right mindset. He had footspeed but does chase the play from behind alot. Every once in a while he would get caught out on the perimeter and looked a bit Bamish. With Bam we expect him to show out against guards, with Wood you hope he does not get embarrassed, but he has and can shut down drives from the perimeter.
The Problem with Wood, is that not what you always get from him. It is fair to ask if he is a fit in Miami, his offense is pretty much always on. His defensive effort is not.
If he was to play for Maimi, he has to share the ball, and his defensive effort has to always be on.
Can he do it? I think so. His effort was though the roof when he was playing with Harden and Wall and for a few weeks the team was a play off threat. The organization gave up, and I think Wood started to "Stat Pad" with 20+ shot games.
A coupe things going in our favor. Wood is absolutely talented. He is cheap, and we are replacing Duncan Robinson. Wood is a better defender on his worst day, and if he went all in on Miami basketball, could be surprisingly good. He fits in with Bam on offense and defense.
Yurt will get an opportunity. He is not getting traded.rate_ wrote:^^^^ That and Wood would also bring size and length (pause) against teams like the Bucks. Miami cannot afford to field small ball lineups against the Bucks again. If Yurt or Markieff doesn't get traded in the process, Miami would have a frontcourt rotation of:
C Bam/Dedmon/Yurt
PF PJ/Wood/Markieff
SF Jimmy/Caleb
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We’ve got to take advantage of this stretch, we have a really good chance to build some separation for the 1st seed. No more Hawks and Kings like games, get the job done. But I disagree with the tweet, I want Lowry back asap lol
insfo wrote:AirP. wrote:
Interesting chart. Who is the dude in blue right near the center?
Also doesn't look like Duncan is as big of a defensive liability like he looks on court. If he can get his offense back on track, he will look much better on this chart.
Also is that Haslem peeking from behind Dedmon's left shoulder?
Maybe I'm missing it, but don't think I saw Morris on the chart.
greg4012 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We’ve got to take advantage of this stretch, we have a really good chance to build some separation for the 1st seed. No more Hawks and Kings like games, get the job done. But I disagree with the tweet, I want Lowry back asap lol
I stated since we got Lowry that I expected him to miss like 1/4 of the season. My expectation was preservation mode for him until it was time for playoff mode. I expected similar for PJ Tucker and to a lesser extent Jimmy.
I definitely wasn't accounting for Bam to miss 1/3 of the season or for the form that it would take. But I always figured that in some form or fashion, our older vets would be in maintenance mode to the greatest extent possible throughout the regular season.
AirP. wrote:insfo wrote:AirP. wrote:
Interesting chart. Who is the dude in blue right near the center?
Also doesn't look like Duncan is as big of a defensive liability like he looks on court. If he can get his offense back on track, he will look much better on this chart.
Also is that Haslem peeking from behind Dedmon's left shoulder?
Maybe I'm missing it, but don't think I saw Morris on the chart.
Haywood Highsmith in his 76ers uniform.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/6155/
Duncan is with the starters so his defense won't look all that bad, I'd suspect that for defense they only look at points given up while on the court and some sort of adjustment for steals and blocks plus removing possessions teammates get steals or blocks. Say Lowry gets a steal, it's highly likely he stopped the other teams possession by himself. I doubt it has second by second account of what's going on, just a parsing of the play by plays.
he should be back before the playoffs because he needs conditioning under the system
I'm glad they are having patience with his rehab. He is only 29, he should have a good 4 to 5 years left of possible high level play.eddieheatfan wrote:he should be back before the playoffs because he needs conditioning under the system
eddieheatfan wrote:greg4012 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We’ve got to take advantage of this stretch, we have a really good chance to build some separation for the 1st seed. No more Hawks and Kings like games, get the job done. But I disagree with the tweet, I want Lowry back asap lol
I stated since we got Lowry that I expected him to miss like 1/4 of the season. My expectation was preservation mode for him until it was time for playoff mode. I expected similar for PJ Tucker and to a lesser extent Jimmy.
I definitely wasn't accounting for Bam to miss 1/3 of the season or for the form that it would take. But I always figured that in some form or fashion, our older vets would be in maintenance mode to the greatest extent possible throughout the regular season.
so you guys think that lowry is in maintenance mode? if so they would have made a fake injury and he would be traveling with the team. the fact that he's absent.....worries me
eddieheatfan wrote:greg4012 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We’ve got to take advantage of this stretch, we have a really good chance to build some separation for the 1st seed. No more Hawks and Kings like games, get the job done. But I disagree with the tweet, I want Lowry back asap lol
I stated since we got Lowry that I expected him to miss like 1/4 of the season. My expectation was preservation mode for him until it was time for playoff mode. I expected similar for PJ Tucker and to a lesser extent Jimmy.
I definitely wasn't accounting for Bam to miss 1/3 of the season or for the form that it would take. But I always figured that in some form or fashion, our older vets would be in maintenance mode to the greatest extent possible throughout the regular season.
so you guys think that lowry is in maintenance mode? if so they would have made a fake injury and he would be traveling with the team. the fact that he's absent.....worries me
JLop wrote:twix2500 wrote:JLop wrote:You are right about everything. However, if Harden leaves Brooklyn at the end of this season and they aren't sure of winning, a trade is the most logical option. Harden earns $44,310,840 and Miami is capped. Any trade would have to include Jimmy, Bam, or Kyle. This is just a hypothetical question for twix2500 since he brought up the topic.
Kyle got a hefty contract. He will not be here for the entirety of his contract. Trading him for a role player, the Heat wouldn't disrespect him like that. For a move for Harden yes and gets to play with Durant or even with Embiid if moved. He is still with a contender. Its not inconceivable, just as I told many here last year that Dragic was going to be traded.
And Oladipo is here as a possible future replacement for Lowry. Not to say Heat will trade Lowry for Harden, but I am pretty sure he will eventually be traded. An elite player would be who they would trade him for.
Combine with Harden age and his a pending free agency, his agent leaking his looming departure ala how Dragic and Lowry got traded here, Nets lost a lot of trade leverage.
This doesn't mean I would do it. But its a move Riley would certainly do if Harden puts Heat as a preferred designation again.
Not doing any real research on salary i would suspect this
Lowry, Herro and Robinson for Harden.
Nets turnaround and send a package to 76ers for Ben Simmons that could send Lowry to Philly.
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If Harden's trade includes Kyle, Duncan and draft picks, I'd pull the trigger. However, I wouldn't if we had to include Tyler as well. And yes, this is a move Riley would certainly make.