2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[KnicksGadfly]

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Potential downfall? They've already fallen.

Their downfall began when they decided Vuc and DeRozan were the missing pieces to their team...this is some Isiah Thomas shyt lol

The interesting thing if you trade for LaVine is that you could also then flip him for Donovan Mitchell if you wanted.

Either a 3 way deal or if Cleveland is still 'going for it' with Mitchell then you wait the 2 month moratorium and then see if they want to deal by trade deadline or the offseason.

You have Donte Divincenzo now who makes Quickley and Grimes more 'expendable'. Obviously Quickley is the best of the 3 but DD gives you a little of both Grimes and Quick. He has the enough height for a half decent sized shooting guard, he can play point capably in spurts and he is a plus type defender like Quick/Grimes.

So in a deal for another guard , at minumum Quckley or Grimes get traded. Possibly both.

Don’t think we can assume we can flip Lavine. Safest thing is to assume Cleveland will be bitter like their fans and refuse to deal with us. We’ve beat their ass enough plus they have past trauma from Lebron and Kyrie.

Bulls are also not giving away Lavine for cheap. It may be easier to just trade for Mitchell, if that’s really the end goal, or threaten to sign him out right by using assets to clear space.

[thebuzzardman]

Get Caruso to play backup PG

[HopelessKnick]

Get Caruso to play backup PG

I like Caruso but he'll cost picks and really doesn't add much that we don't already have. At this point I feel like we should stick adamantly to the one player type we don't have ---a two way wing that can score and slow down opposing big wings. Too bad Mikal Bridges is on the Nets....would have really really loved him here.

[HopelessKnick]

The Nets have Johnson-Bridges-DFS and O'Neal. They lack guards.....but would these two teams really do business with each other?

Bridges is likely untouchable for them but would any of you look at Cam Johnson or DFS as a trade target?

[8516knicks]

The Nets have Johnson-Bridges-DFS and O'Neal. They lack guards.....but would these two teams really do business with each other?

Bridges is likely untouchable for them but would any of you look at Cam Johnson or DFS as a trade target?

I think the consensus is Philly and Nets won't trade with us so as to avoid potential devastatingly bad publicity over being rookked . And Toronto is pissed at us. And Boston won't deal either. Need to look elsewhere from our immediate division.

[Esq-4]

Their downfall began when they decided Vuc and DeRozan were the missing pieces to their team...this is some Isiah Thomas shyt lol

The interesting thing if you trade for LaVine is that you could also then flip him for Donovan Mitchell if you wanted.

Either a 3 way deal or if Cleveland is still 'going for it' with Mitchell then you wait the 2 month moratorium and then see if they want to deal by trade deadline or the offseason.

You have Donte Divincenzo now who makes Quickley and Grimes more 'expendable'. Obviously Quickley is the best of the 3 but DD gives you a little of both Grimes and Quick. He has the enough height for a half decent sized shooting guard, he can play point capably in spurts and he is a plus type defender like Quick/Grimes.

So in a deal for another guard , at minumum Quckley or Grimes get traded. Possibly both.

Don’t think we can assume we can flip Lavine. Safest thing is to assume Cleveland will be bitter like their fans and refuse to deal with us. We’ve beat their ass enough plus they have past trauma from Lebron and Kyrie.

Bulls are also not giving away Lavine for cheap. It may be easier to just trade for Mitchell, if that’s really the end goal, or threaten to sign him out right by using assets to clear space.

Always liked the concept of Randle+ to CHI, LaVine to CLE, DMitch to NY. But without having an in house replacement for Randle or not getting one back in the trade, it doesn't work without another trade lined up. Also, even assuming the "+" is Grimes or IQ, in addition to picks, with the minutes Brunson and DMith there will be a glut at the 1/2. Almost requires the "+" to be IQ because Grimes can at least play the 3. Problem there is, you have a better shot getting a starting 4 with IQ. Is IQ, EF (salary) and a bunch of picks enough if you remove Randle?

[Jalen Bluntson]

We need a backup PF more than anything else right now. No superstars are even close to going on the block . None. Maybe some trade ideas for something attainable makes more sense than these multi team trades for players that won't happen.

DM is the one player I think we have the best shot of getting...next year.

[dukeknicksirish]

*Palpetine Voice*

“Do It”

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273654/Zion-Williamson-Trying-My-Best-To-Buy-In-Right-Now

[sol537]

if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?

[Meat]

if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?

of course you say yes

[sol537]

if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?

of course you say yes

IQ can "blow up" as a starter like a mini-Maxey.... You're sending two potential borderline all-star talents for an injury-riddled Zion... risky as heck...

[KNICKFAN374]

if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?

As much as I like IQ at the back up 1/2 spot, I do this deal just to not have to watch Randle anymore. DDV can play 12-16 mpg at PG when Brunson is out, and we also have Deuce if needed for spot minutes. IMO, DDV makes both IQ & Grimes expendable in the right deal.

[sol537]

if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?

As much as I like IQ at the back up 1/2 spot, I do this deal just to not have to watch Randle anymore. DDV can play 12-16 mpg at PG when Brunson is out, and we also have Deuce if needed for spot minutes. IMO, DDV makes both IQ & Grimes expendable in the right deal.

I probably do it as well since it could raise our ceiling but... it's risky!

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Separately, what about:

Paul George + filler for Randle + Grimes + protected 1st.... Only way LAC do this if PG13 asks out and if LAC decide to reshuffle the deck on the sinking ship. PG13 would have to play the 4 which is fine in today's NBA and we'd have to eventually get a real back-up 4 type which can be worried about later.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Zion has played in 31% of the games since being drafted. I'm not sending ANYTHING of value for him.

We do need a backup PF in case of emergency. Randle seems to have snapped out of his injury so, they probably won't do anything at all.

[dukeknicksirish]

If we keep winning like we are and see a light at the end of the tunnel, do we make an “all-in” trade for PG13/D Mitchell/Kawhi deal?

[KNICKFAN374]

if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?

As much as I like IQ at the back up 1/2 spot, I do this deal just to not have to watch Randle anymore. DDV can play 12-16 mpg at PG when Brunson is out, and we also have Deuce if needed for spot minutes. IMO, DDV makes both IQ & Grimes expendable in the right deal.

I probably do it as well since it could raise our ceiling but... it's risky!

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Separately, what about:

Paul George + filler for Randle + Grimes + protected 1st.... Only way LAC do this if PG13 asks out and if LAC decide to reshuffle the deck on the sinking ship. PG13 would have to play the 4 which is fine in today's NBA and we'd have to eventually get a real back-up 4 type which can be worried about later.

Similar to Zion's health, although I love PG-13's game, I'm very concerned about him missing games.

Also, although RJ has had a very good start to the year, I'm not all in on him. I've always been in the camp that either Randle or RJ need to go, both to ISO heavy & redundant. One of them plus IQ or Grimes plus some picks can get us what? To me, that's the move we need to make to take a few steps forward. The problem is, who is that guy we get????

[knicksfan974]

Zion gets quite a lot of hate, but really if Randle and IQ would be all it takes to get him, certainly you have to do it. For both Randle and IQ I have respect for and they are good players, but the potential upside with Zion is just at another level.

Zion is stuck on a team he don't care about, don't seem to care to train for and casually still has put up 25 and 7 career averages. I wonder what level he could reach if you put him in big spotlight like New York and sell him on the idea of being a major part of a championship level New York Knicks roster, and to become a legend for life in the city. Get him in great shape and make a run for the title. Remember also, Zion is only 23, so he fits the Knicks timeline perfectly.

[KNICKFAN374]

Also, based on history, I have very serious doubts that RJ will continue to play at this level. It seems that most teams either don't value him or even consider him a negative, therefore, I would be looking to see what we could get for him right now, while his value may be high. As I mentioned above, him or Randle must go, whoever gets us the better return should be traded.

[sol537]

Zion gets quite a lot of hate, but really if Randle and IQ would be all it takes to get him, certainly you have to do it. For both Randle and IQ I have respect for and they are good players, but the potential upside with Zion is just at another level.

Zion is stuck on a team he don't care about, don't seem to care to train for and casually still has put up 25 and 7 career averages. I wonder what level he could reach if you put him in big spotlight like New York and sell him on the idea of being a major part of a championship level New York Knicks roster, and to become a legend for life in the city. Get him in great shape and make a run for the title. Remember also, Zion is only 23, so he fits the Knicks timeline perfectly.

This is my thinking as well… gotta take that chance that Zion could be rejuvenated in NY with RJ…

[SelbyCobra]

if NOP call Leon and ask for Randle + IQ for Zion straight up... what do you say?

of course you say yes

IQ can "blow up" as a starter like a mini-Maxey.... You're sending two potential borderline all-star talents for an injury-riddled Zion... risky as heck...

You have a valid point with Zion's health and the associated risk, but your adjective choices are doing a lot of nasty work here.