Trade Ideas (Part III)

[Stillwater]

After the blowout loss to T-Wolves I think a larger level trade than previously needed is not out of the question . If it's just the change at pg impacting everything maybe it fixes itself in a couple weeks,but I don't know,they just look really bad right now.

How has IT looked now that he's back?

good not great but for someone out of game shape coming off injury and playing the point, it's going to take time to overhaul the assignments which is why if we are making any trades NOW is the time.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6989153
The trade you didn't see coming?
Not sure Jordan is worth it, and Beverley is a next season asset if IT3 walks. But, it wouldn't surprise me if something like this happens.

[CaptainCanada]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6989153
The trade you didn't see coming?
Not sure Jordan is worth it, and Beverley is a next season asset if IT3 walks. But, it wouldn't surprise me if something like this happens.

If The Clippers trade DeAndre Jordan I think it will be for a rebuild (young players & pick). They won't want TT's albatross contract.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6989153
The trade you didn't see coming?
Not sure Jordan is worth it, and Beverley is a next season asset if IT3 walks. But, it wouldn't surprise me if something like this happens.

If The Clippers trade DeAndre Jordan I think it will be for a rebuild (young players & pick). They won't want TT's albatross contract.

I don't see them going into full rebuild after paying Blake.
They still have a decent roster without the 3 players they'd ship out here and TT along with JR and Crowder put them back in the playoff picture for the next couple seasons.
I don't want the Cavs to trade for Jordan, don't see him as enough of an upgrade to TT to justify it, however it wouldn't surprise me if we did.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6989422
Charlotte gets Dallas 2019 1st top 20 protected for 2 years and then unprotected.
Dallas gets Cavs 2020 2nd from Miami.

[ubernathan]

DET/CLE

Boban Marjanovic for Channing Frye. What think?

[Stillwater]

DET/CLE

Boban Marjanovic for Channing Frye. What think?

not sure whether you are trolling

Frye as a expiring contract big who can stretch the floor and is a better rim protector (which aint saying much)than what you are offering, so this would have no chance of happening.
Detroit would have to add a pick for the Cavs to even remotely consider this.
We need a mobile big who can defend the perimeter as well as protect the rim,if they are not capable of hitting 3's. So any traditional rim protectors esp one's that are over paid and cannot shoot cannot be a reasonable target.
Detroit would have to give up their own first this year minimum just to rent Frye from us to take on Boban's 2 years and even that probably wouldn't get it done unless we knew Lebron was leaving, so I don't see it.

[ubernathan]

DET/CLE

Boban Marjanovic for Channing Frye. What think?

not sure whether you are trolling

Frye as a expiring contract big who can stretch the floor and is a better rim protector (which aint saying much)than what you are offering, so this would have no chance of happening.
Detroit would have to add a pick for the Cavs to even remotely consider this.
We need a mobile big who can defend the perimeter as well as protect the rim,if they are not capable of hitting 3's. So any traditional rim protectors esp one's that are over paid and cannot shoot cannot be a reasonable target.
Detroit would have to give up their own first this year minimum just to rent Frye from us to take on Boban's 2 years and even that probably wouldn't get it done unless we knew Lebron was leaving, so I don't see it.

Boban has a PER of 24, on the offensive end he's elite. He's not some no good stiff like Roy Hibbert.

[jbk1234]

DET/CLE

Boban Marjanovic for Channing Frye. What think?

We give you a bad contract for one of your expiring contracts. What you think?

[jbk1234]

Assuming we absolutely have to make a move: JR/Shump for Bazemore/Bellenelli - straight up.

[jcsunsfan]

So. What would you be willing to give up for Monroe?

First, you would have to send $17 million in salary back. These don't have to be players the Suns want, it just has to make the deal work. But no salary can be past the summer of 2019. They will probably cut the players anyway.

Then. You have to give the Suns something they want. They do not need more picks, they need better picks. I think they would be willing to swap multiple picks for a better pick in some deal. The Suns have potentially three first round picks this year: Their own, Miami's and Milwaukees (not likely to convey). They have all their own picks in future years and a 2020 unconditional Miami picks. They have lots of second rounders.

Monore is a free agent, but you would also get his Bird Rights in the trade, so resigning him this next summer would be easy, and probably at a decent deal.

[Stillwater]

So. What would you be willing to give up for Monroe?

First, you would have to send $17 million in salary back. These don't have to be players the Suns want, it just has to make the deal work. But no salary can be past the summer of 2019. They will probably cut the players anyway.

Then. You have to give the Suns something they want. They do not need more picks, they need better picks. I think they would be willing to swap multiple picks for a better pick in some deal. The Suns have potentially three first round picks this year: Their own, Miami's and Milwaukees (not likely to convey). They have all their own picks in future years and a 2020 unconditional Miami picks. They have lots of second rounders.

Monore is a free agent, but you would also get his Bird Rights in the trade, so resigning him this next summer would be easy, and probably at a decent deal.

Just don't see Monroe as a starter on this roster, despite being a desirable scoring asset off the bench. So we would be unlikely to give any picks besides our own in 2018 which doesn't help you, and you would have to take back Thompson who isn't a fa until the summer of 2020 along with 1 of Rose or Calderon's expiring's for us to even consider it.

[jbk1234]

So. What would you be willing to give up for Monroe?

First, you would have to send $17 million in salary back. These don't have to be players the Suns want, it just has to make the deal work. But no salary can be past the summer of 2019. They will probably cut the players anyway.

Then. You have to give the Suns something they want. They do not need more picks, they need better picks. I think they would be willing to swap multiple picks for a better pick in some deal. The Suns have potentially three first round picks this year: Their own, Miami's and Milwaukees (not likely to convey). They have all their own picks in future years and a 2020 unconditional Miami picks. They have lots of second rounders.

Monore is a free agent, but you would also get his Bird Rights in the trade, so resigning him this next summer would be easy, and probably at a decent deal.

Monroe is an answer to a problem we don't presently have, and no, there's really no way you're getting the Brooklyn pick in a trade for him. I'd consider TT for Monroe, who frankly would fit really well on the Suns, but I wouldn't part with the Brooklyn pick to do it.

[Stillwater]

DET/CLE

Boban Marjanovic for Channing Frye. What think?

not sure whether you are trolling

Frye as a expiring contract big who can stretch the floor and is a better rim protector (which aint saying much)than what you are offering, so this would have no chance of happening.
Detroit would have to add a pick for the Cavs to even remotely consider this.
We need a mobile big who can defend the perimeter as well as protect the rim,if they are not capable of hitting 3's. So any traditional rim protectors esp one's that are over paid and cannot shoot cannot be a reasonable target.
Detroit would have to give up their own first this year minimum just to rent Frye from us to take on Boban's 2 years and even that probably wouldn't get it done unless we knew Lebron was leaving, so I don't see it.

Boban has a PER of 24, on the offensive end he's elite. He's not some no good stiff like Roy Hibbert.

PER is not a reliable measure of a player's defensive acumen and there is no way in hell he is a better offensive player than Frye who is also not elite.

[ubernathan]

not sure whether you are trolling

Frye as a expiring contract big who can stretch the floor and is a better rim protector (which aint saying much)than what you are offering, so this would have no chance of happening.
Detroit would have to add a pick for the Cavs to even remotely consider this.
We need a mobile big who can defend the perimeter as well as protect the rim,if they are not capable of hitting 3's. So any traditional rim protectors esp one's that are over paid and cannot shoot cannot be a reasonable target.
Detroit would have to give up their own first this year minimum just to rent Frye from us to take on Boban's 2 years and even that probably wouldn't get it done unless we knew Lebron was leaving, so I don't see it.

Boban has a PER of 24, on the offensive end he's elite. He's not some no good stiff like Roy Hibbert.

PER is not a reliable measure of a player's defensive acumen and there is no way in hell he is a better offensive player than Frye who is also not elite.

Just watch Boban style on the Warriors.

Watch on YouTube

[jcsunsfan]

So. What would you be willing to give up for Monroe?

First, you would have to send $17 million in salary back. These don't have to be players the Suns want, it just has to make the deal work. But no salary can be past the summer of 2019. They will probably cut the players anyway.

Then. You have to give the Suns something they want. They do not need more picks, they need better picks. I think they would be willing to swap multiple picks for a better pick in some deal. The Suns have potentially three first round picks this year: Their own, Miami's and Milwaukees (not likely to convey). They have all their own picks in future years and a 2020 unconditional Miami picks. They have lots of second rounders.

Monore is a free agent, but you would also get his Bird Rights in the trade, so resigning him this next summer would be easy, and probably at a decent deal.

Monroe is an answer to a problem we don't presently have, and no, there's really no way you're getting the Brooklyn pick in a trade for him. I'd consider TT for Monroe, who frankly would fit really well on the Suns, but I wouldn't part with the Brooklyn pick to do it.

There are a lot of other possibilities. Options to trade picks, future first round picks. If you don't think you need Monroe though, not sure if there is a point.

TT is a non-starter. We have had our fill of Rich Paul.

[jbk1234]

So. What would you be willing to give up for Monroe?

First, you would have to send $17 million in salary back. These don't have to be players the Suns want, it just has to make the deal work. But no salary can be past the summer of 2019. They will probably cut the players anyway.

Then. You have to give the Suns something they want. They do not need more picks, they need better picks. I think they would be willing to swap multiple picks for a better pick in some deal. The Suns have potentially three first round picks this year: Their own, Miami's and Milwaukees (not likely to convey). They have all their own picks in future years and a 2020 unconditional Miami picks. They have lots of second rounders.

Monore is a free agent, but you would also get his Bird Rights in the trade, so resigning him this next summer would be easy, and probably at a decent deal.

Monroe is an answer to a problem we don't presently have, and no, there's really no way you're getting the Brooklyn pick in a trade for him. I'd consider TT for Monroe, who frankly would fit really well on the Suns, but I wouldn't part with the Brooklyn pick to do it.

There are a lot of other possibilities. Options to trade picks, future first round picks. If you don't think you need Monroe though, not sure if there is a point.

TT is a non-starter. We have had our fill of Rich Paul.

I don't blame you re: Paul but TT is signed for long enough that it wouldn't be an issue. But if TT is a non starter, then there really isn't anything to talk about.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6991169
No picks

[CaptainCanada]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6991169
No picks

If I was Chicago I wouldn't trade Dunn. Chicago is in the middle of a rebuild and want youth. I think better trade partners for Cleveland are other teams.

[jbk1234]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6991169
No picks

Come on man. Why would the Bulls do that?