21-22 Season: Game 2 7:30pm ET 10/22/21 - 76ers vs Nets GDT

[Ferry Avenue]

This also - Embiid is still way too sloppy with the ball in dealing with doubles, and he dribbles into trouble far too often for a player of his level. I guess those are things you just accept as part of the package, but it's a big reason why he has no business handling the ball anywhere but the post down the stretch.

Embiid should be doing nothing in the clutch other than awaiting a pass from the guy who breaks the defense down from the point.

[Mik317]

well at least we aren't the Lakers.

when we get housed like they are right now..this place would be nuts lol

[Ferry Avenue]

well at least we aren't the Lakers.

when we get housed like they are right now..this place would be nuts lol

The Lakers are somehow trying to win without the ability to shoot the ball.

[phillynative]

I still feel like Embiid needed more paint touches against a team with ole crusty LMA, washed Blake and that beanpole Claxton. Instead of punishing them for the lack of interior defense they tried to out shot create James Harden and Kevin Durant of all people when they simply don't have the personnel. Get in the paint and move the ball , no need for unnecessary dribbles that doesn't break anyone down, overzealous passing. They went away from the simple plays while KD and LaMarcus made it look easy and just rose up and shot over everyone.

[dlts20]

LOL you've got to be kidding me.

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Wiz fan here. It's very possible. I remember when Joe Gibbs came back years ago, he hired an ex ref to be in charge of the challenges. We won the 1st game of the season. In game 2 we came right down on the opening drive and scored 7. The next drive we March right down the field inside the 5 yard line. It was 3rd down. Clinton Portis clearly ran for a 1st down but the refs marked it short. We didn't challenge and settled for a FG. It completely killed the momentum and we lost. All of the fans and local media were upset about it. The ex ref arrogantly tried to justify it after the game but luckily Washington fired him.

Once doc sees the replay of the game, that dude should be fired tomorrow. Can't have idiots like that in charge of game changing decisions

[NYSixersFan]

LOL you've got to be kidding me.

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Wiz fan here. It's very possible. I remember when Joe Gibbs came back years ago, he hired an ex ref to be in charge of the challenges. We won the 1st game of the season. In game 2 we came right down on the opening drive and scored 7. The next drive we March right down the field inside the 5 yard line. It was 3rd down. Clinton Portis clearly ran for a 1st down but the refs marked it short. We didn't challenge and settled for a FG. It completely killed the momentum and we lost. All of the fans and local media were upset about it. The ex ref arrogantly tried to justify it after the game but luckily Washington fired him.

Once doc sees the replay of the game, that dude should be fired tomorrow. Can't have idiots like that in charge of game changing decisions

We also had Bruce Allen doing that. Worked out great. Ha

[Skates]

LOL you've got to be kidding me.

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Wiz fan here. It's very possible. I remember when Joe Gibbs came back years ago, he hired an ex ref to be in charge of the challenges. We won the 1st game of the season. In game 2 we came right down on the opening drive and scored 7. The next drive we March right down the field inside the 5 yard line. It was 3rd down. Clinton Portis clearly ran for a 1st down but the refs marked it short. We didn't challenge and settled for a FG. It completely killed the momentum and we lost. All of the fans and local media were upset about it. The ex ref arrogantly tried to justify it after the game but luckily Washington fired him.

Once doc sees the replay of the game, that dude should be fired tomorrow. Can't have idiots like that in charge of game changing decisions

We also had Bruce Allen doing that. Worked out great. Ha

And Gibbs didn't stay long either, so if we are continuing that analogy out to Doc leaving fairly soon I am totally onboard with the comparison you are making (-;

[syntax]

An awful loss, just so bad, and mostly on Rivers. So many questions - why wait so long to get Embiid back in the game? Why is Danny Green even in the game at that point? Why does Korkmaz get only 20 minutes, when the guy looks ready to break out? And for crying out loud, how on earth do you not challenge that blocking call?

Rivers is a dinosaur, stuck seeing the game as it was when he played. He has no clue about making adjustments on the fly, and is clearly a horrible game manager. He is loyal to a ridiculous extent, refusing to pull a player after three hideous air balls? And the halfcourt pass call when the entire arena saw it coming.

Finally, does this game just define Tobias Harris? Lights it up for three quarters, disappears with the money on the table. Hell, I'd rather have Maxey taking the big shots right now than anyone, he has absolutely no fear of the moment. One thing for sure, Morey has to somehow bring someone in who can create shots when it counts, or we're going to continue to see these kinds of losses, which have come to define these Sixers.

If they had a player who could simply score off the dribble or get to the free-throw line and make free throws in the clutch, none of the stuff above would even be discussed. Because they don’t have that player, they have no margin for error in the clutch against good teams, and then all the things noted above become magnified. If you have the necessary kind of talent, all of those things are hidden and compensated for.

Maxey can blow off any defender off the dribble. We have seen it enough to know this. Now. He can be a little off with the floater and iffy jumper. But he creates so
Much pressure on the defense when he’s penetrating.

Doc needs to trust Maxey.

This Tobias Harris dribble dribble shoot got to go.

Embiid rested way too long. Unless his knee is bothering him already.

Doc rivers should have challenged the charge on Kd. That’s the game there. What is his saving his timeout for?

2 ast and a -9 from Maxey (most on the team) in 36 mins. So much pressure on the D.

Outrebounded as a team by 12 (6 more offensive to BKN).
Outassisted as a team by 9.

There is where the game was lost.

[SixthStreet]

It's a regular season loss. They shot a lot more 3s today which is good. Not much to get worked up about. The kids will learn from the last 5 minutes.

[DCasey91]

Imho Maxey/Embiid isn’t a good fit, Maxey/Drummond is it’s pretty clear from my end.

A slasher with no lane (Drummond is pretty straight line) makes it so less effective. Anyway he’s too young to even be considered as a closer that’s just setting him up for failure.

He's the closest thing to one on this team. We can get by without one beating mediocre to lower level teams this year. But tonight's result is going to continue against the better teams of the league without someone to take over at the end of games. I don't see how it sets him up for failure. He's the best off the dribble player we have, he's an improving scorer, and he's clearly not afraid of the moment. What's wrong with at least trying it?

Youngsters unless your a superstar from day dot need the 2 steps forward one step back approach.

I get the let’s throw him in the deep end but not for a whole season it’ll knock a kids confidence around.

I like him but he did get picked apart in the last quarter. The coaches have to manage him properly

Doesn’t help we don’t have a senior that can create on the outside, but that’s not anyone’s fault but the FO.

[mksp]

If we can't build a team around Joel where we have at least one finisher, then just trade him.

Joel can't be the #1 guy on a championship team. He's a great player, but he just can't handle that responsibility.

[DCasey91]

As well as Seth and Tobi played you don't want them trying to create shots and that's what started to happen. I just don't understand why Embiid wasn't in the post more to create doubles.

Embiid in the post in the last 2mins of a game is a very bad idea without premium half-court guard play. Teams don’t give Embiid that it’ll be a quick force into a pass to a non creator/turnover. We’re just not threatening when push comes to shove.

Not just the last 2 mins but throughout the game. He never got any deep catches in the paint. Which means he gave the Nets defense a pass. Maybe Embiid could of gotten LMA in foul trouble that way we wouldnt have to watch him knock down set shots in every players face all game long way.

KD obviously was going to get every shot he wanted , the way to counter the Nets runs was to get Embiid in the post where he's unguardable one on one.

Ben ironically is our best entry passer by a mile like it’s not funny.

When you have 1+ Rocos on our team trying to make a simple entry pass into the elbow all the way to the hotspot it’s not as simple anymore.

Also why would the Nets give Embiid a one on one in the post? This isn’t the 90’s anymore.

You can still “cheat” on this team just follow Embiid wherever he goes and cover the shooter and funnel everything towards him inside the last couple of minutes. Makes defending really really predictable because there’s zero threat on the outside. Also love the big guy but his playmaking isn’t up to scratch when boxed in which he will be every time he gets the ball near the rim.

Brown ran spam DHO for a reason. Embiid’s not I repeat not a PNR operator.

So it’s contested mid ranges in the middle (free throw line) or spam DHO. Really anything else doesn’t work as well as you’d think it would.

[DCasey91]

Won’t happen now or ever again but simply our two man best practice in crunch time is actually Ben and Embiid. It happened very rarely but it was a glimpse of very very fruitful dividends, wasn’t about shooting it was about bully ball.

They didn’t learn to Tetris all the way to a bucket/foul enough because either don’t want to or never developed pnr operation.

Embiid floats, slow to make a move and the moves are predictable. Even with Butler who loves to pnr Embiid got a distinct lack off easy Lobs/receives on pnr pass. Because he is a floater

That’s one area you can rightfully be critical off him. It gets worse without someone who can get in there with ease.

[Tomjas]

Joel/Ben are the best duo in the NBA

Supporting cast has been the problem FOREVER

[Wilfried]

This team sucks once again. Missing the key ingredient of winning in the NBA.

Well, we are minus 1 all star

[DCasey91]

Joel/Ben are the best duo in the NBA

Supporting cast has been the problem FOREVER

The amount of times we say Ben you got to the middle do something ffs. At least he can get to the middle because the defense sags off so he has “free” real estate to enter every time.

Should be like this:

No one is allowed to enter (Harris’s problem consistently) stay at the 3 point line moving ready to catch and fire. Something like Curry, Korkmaz, Niang or Curry, Korkmaz, Green.

1. Joel starts the action (wing or central 3pt line)
2. Simple small over the top pass to Ben as the high “post” big.
3. Defense sags way back
4. It gives the team plenty to work with now. Embiid is doubled/triple tagged. Ben waltzing together with Embiid as a huge meat shield with shooters in his eye line. Start it right shooters on the left and vice versa.
Ben’s good enough to hit Embiid on the short drop or over the top lob off/hit the moving shooter.
5. Teams literally gave up on the easy midrange shot for him but is too chickensh*t to attack the obvious space.

Saw it happen a couple times in random games but it somehow always causes good offensive action even while Ben was being a p*ssy lol.

Starting a pass action with Embiid deep with 2mins to go isn’t correct but funnily enough in practice it is for Ben, just jokic the thing he hits cutters easy too.

He’s still by far and away our best passer. Ben + Embiid with Embiid establishing deep post with Harris wanting to get inside doesn’t work because Ben has nothing to do, Embiid gets catty when doubled and Harris wants to shoot a floater rather than trying to polaxe a person I think he doesn’t know he’s 6”10 lmao.

That above is the problem. It’s a compound not a singular one.

Such a weird weird combo together.

[Tomjas]

2018

Ben brings ball up

Joel to post and rest spread out

Ben hands off, drives or gives it to Joel

Joel shoots or gives back to Ben who feeds open shooters

Defence revolves around Ben shoring up perimeter while Joel stops guys at rim

Simple gameplan is always the best

[Murray_17]

We should have kept Monty Williams

Not sure either, he's rthe mastermind behind thta horrible Shamet contract

[eyeatoma]

Still mad about this game. It was ours. So infuriating.

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[76ciology]

Joel/Ben are the best duo in the NBA

Supporting cast has been the problem FOREVER

Thats why they’re NOT the best duo in the NBA.

They have to be surrounded by stars or borderline star players like Al, Jimmy, Tobi or JJ.

The best duo should be good enough that they wouldnt rely complimentary pieces for us to be good.

Building around Biid and Ben is a very steep uphill climb when you are going against the trend and you need to have more talent to go a certain distance compared to other teams.