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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#421 » by humanrefutation » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:04 pm

It's not as good of a package as I would have expected, tbh. Lock ain't it. Milwaukee own Shelby Harris is on the other side of his prime. Fant is a nice piece, but isn't a game changer. The picks are to be expected, though.

If I was Seattle, I would have insisted on Surtain.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#422 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:20 pm

humanrefutation wrote:It's not as good of a package as I would have expected, tbh. Lock ain't it. Milwaukee own Shelby Harris is on the other side of his prime. Fant is a nice piece, but isn't a game changer. The picks are to be expected, though.

If I was Seattle, I would have insisted on Surtain.
When you're trading for a QB to compete now you probably want to keep your good players.

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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#423 » by humanrefutation » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:21 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:It's not as good of a package as I would have expected, tbh. Lock ain't it. Milwaukee own Shelby Harris is on the other side of his prime. Fant is a nice piece, but isn't a game changer. The picks are to be expected, though.

If I was Seattle, I would have insisted on Surtain.
When you're trading for a QB to compete now you probably want to keep your good players.

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...and if you're trading your Pro Bowl level QB you probably want to get the best package possible.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#424 » by th87 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:25 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:It will be very interesting to track Seattle's path over the next few years.


Can't wait to see how this plays out.

Teams aren't worth a damn without a QB, so at best they draft some solid players and then have to give up a haul of their own to acquire a franchise QB 2-3 years from now.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#425 » by Matches Malone » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:28 pm

Kinda weird the team account posted this lol.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#426 » by Profound23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:34 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:It's not as good of a package as I would have expected, tbh. Lock ain't it. Milwaukee own Shelby Harris is on the other side of his prime. Fant is a nice piece, but isn't a game changer. The picks are to be expected, though.

If I was Seattle, I would have insisted on Surtain.
When you're trading for a QB to compete now you probably want to keep your good players.

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...and if you're trading your Pro Bowl level QB you probably want to get the best package possible.



Also, trading Surtain would have cost them over 10 mil in cap space.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#427 » by Dennis Reynolds » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:35 pm

Pretty impressive haul for a short QB who relies on his legs a lot and is gonna turn 34 during the next season. Not to mention Wilson was pretty poor to end the 2020 season and had an even worse 2021 season. Will be interesting to see how it works out with a rookie coach but I guess at least Broncos' O-line is better than Seattle's which should help Wilson out.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#428 » by Dennis Reynolds » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:35 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Kinda weird the team account posted this lol.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#429 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:37 pm

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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#430 » by humanrefutation » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:43 pm

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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#431 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:49 pm

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Maybe they wanted him in the AFC.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#432 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 8:53 pm

Very happy Rodgers coming back. But if that Denver package was ever an option for Green Bay…..wow.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#433 » by M-C-G » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:01 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
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Maybe they wanted him in the AFC.


Russ had a full no trade, I think. So if he wouldn't accept a trade, no point countering on it.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#434 » by Treebeard » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:09 pm

Leery of Washington's potential for ownership and front office chaos now that there's different investigators involved?
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#435 » by humanrefutation » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:33 pm

M-C-G wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
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Maybe they wanted him in the AFC.


Russ had a full no trade, I think. So if he wouldn't accept a trade, no point countering on it.


Yeah, that's probably it.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#436 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Mar 8, 2022 9:44 pm

Wait, there's people that think that Denver package isn't a massive haul for a guy who's never sniffed an All-Pro selection? Maybe Russ is the guy that makes Denver a contender, but that's only because this is a Stafford situation and the team already has all the other pieces in place. Not because Russ is this franchise altering superstar.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#437 » by Profound23 » Tue Mar 8, 2022 10:23 pm

Tell me the last time there was this many good-to-great QBs in one conference.

If Mac (I don't think so) and Trevor (I do think so) progress and you add them to Josh Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Mahomes, Russ, Lamar

If I am Deshaun Watson get me the he** out of the AFC.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#438 » by humanrefutation » Tue Mar 8, 2022 11:49 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Wait, there's people that think that Denver package isn't a massive haul for a guy who's never sniffed an All-Pro selection?


He was a second team All-Pro in 2019. I think that's more than a sniff of an All-Pro selection (putting aside the limitation of that metric because there is only 1 First Team All-Pro QB every season). 9x Pro Bowler. 101.8 career passer rating.

Russ has never been my cup of tea as a QB, but he's, without question, a franchise player. The numbers back that up.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#439 » by Matches Malone » Wed Mar 9, 2022 1:33 am

Market is drying up quickly on QB's. Curious if Jimmy G now because the belle of the ball and gets a big deal from a QB starved team. Pitt, Indy, Carolina, Washington and probably some other teams I'm not thinking about.
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Re: ATL - Broncos Acquire Russell Wilson 

Post#440 » by Matches Malone » Wed Mar 9, 2022 2:38 am

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