Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[YogurtProducer]

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"POR wouldn’t be a real contender if TOR gave us OG and Siakam for free."

Pure hyperbole, but consider this is the stance. Renders the discussion pointless.

POR made the WCF and lost to the Warriors starting Dame, CJ, Aminu, Kanter, Harkless

I’d say Dame / Siakam / OG / Grant / Nurk is an easy contender lol

The best part of this thread is people getting annoyed with JRoy not realizing that’s exactly how y’all sound talking here about rebuilding as well

[MavCarter]

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This is great news because I'd much rather trade Pascal than OG.

Do people not remember who matt moore is? This dude is not a legitimate source for anything lmao. He makes calculated guesses based on other reporting and sticks "sources" onto it

[JRoy]

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"POR wouldn’t be a real contender if TOR gave us OG and Siakam for free."

Pure hyperbole, but consider this is the stance. Renders the discussion pointless.

POR made the WCF and lost to the Warriors starting Dame, CJ, Aminu, Kanter, Harkless

I’d say Dame / Siakam / OG / Grant / Nurk is an easy contender lol

The best part of this thread is people getting annoyed with JRoy not realizing that’s exactly how y’all sound talking here about rebuilding as well

You think a Billups coached team could win a playoff series?

Lol.

[Bruin]

viewtopic.php?p=106205210#p106205210

"POR wouldn’t be a real contender if TOR gave us OG and Siakam for free."

Pure hyperbole, but consider this is the stance. Renders the discussion pointless.

POR made the WCF and lost to the Warriors starting Dame, CJ, Aminu, Kanter, Harkless

I’d say Dame / Siakam / OG / Grant / Nurk is an easy contender lol

The best part of this thread is people getting annoyed with JRoy not realizing that’s exactly how y’all sound talking here about rebuilding as well

You think a Billups coached team could win a playoff series?

Lol.

Then what’s the point of the Blazers doing anything if you have a complaint in every aspect of the team? Might as well abolish the team or send it to Seattle

Try to compete? Nah the coach sucks and Dame isn’t good enough to get us there

What makes you think Billups would develop young talent any better than he’d help the team win

[ArthurVandelay]

Just purely curious here, where do you guys value Barnes in relation to Miller & Scoot?

If you could pick 2 out of those 3 given no restriction, which 2 would you ultimately pick to be the duo?

Barnes and Miller

[ArthurVandelay]

Not sure why everyone continues to jump on JRoy.

He’s a tanker. Wants to build the through the draft for many of the same reasons tWo exists (not a FA destination, high end talent typically found top of draft, control player W/ rookie deal and RFA).

IMO difference between JRoy/Portland and tWo/Raptors is Lillard is a legit 1st option who’s had dreadful management.

[JRoy]

POR made the WCF and lost to the Warriors starting Dame, CJ, Aminu, Kanter, Harkless

I’d say Dame / Siakam / OG / Grant / Nurk is an easy contender lol

The best part of this thread is people getting annoyed with JRoy not realizing that’s exactly how y’all sound talking here about rebuilding as well

You think a Billups coached team could win a playoff series?

Lol.

Then what’s the point of the Blazers doing anything if you have a complaint in every aspect of the team? Might as well abolish the team or send it to Seattle

Try to compete? Nah the coach sucks and Dame isn’t good enough to get us there

What makes you think Billups would develop young talent any better than he’d help the team win

I don’t believe for a moment that Billups is good at either.

Hiring a rookie head coach with zero experience as head coach on any level is not the right decision when contention is the goal.

Was it a stealth-rebuild hire or a tragic mis-hire?

That I do not support trading top assets for guys who will not make POR a contender, in the name of contention, does not mean I do not support my team.

I support my team more than TOR fans support my team in arguing against a trade that is NOT in the best interest of my team.

It is in the best interest of your team.

[TrustFundBaby]

Just purely curious here, where do you guys value Barnes in relation to Miller & Scoot?

If you could pick 2 out of those 3 given no restriction, which 2 would you ultimately pick to be the duo?

The thing is, Scoot would be going #1 in many drafts. He's just stuck behind Wemby. Barnes isn't worth a #1 pick, which is Scoots value.

I can't tell how much of Miller going at 2 is real and how much of it is an intense smokescreen to pump up Portlands pick value. But he's in a similar tier to predraft Barnes. I'll give Barnes the edge though because he's won ROY and seems like at worst he's a starter level player

So Scoot>Scottie>Miller

[Bruin]

You think a Billups coached team could win a playoff series?

Lol.

Then what’s the point of the Blazers doing anything if you have a complaint in every aspect of the team? Might as well abolish the team or send it to Seattle

Try to compete? Nah the coach sucks and Dame isn’t good enough to get us there

What makes you think Billups would develop young talent any better than he’d help the team win

I don’t believe for a moment that Billups is good at either.

Hiring a rookie head coach with zero experience as head coach on any level is not the right decision when contention is the goal.

Was it a stealth-rebuild hire or a tragic mis-hire?

That I do not support trading top assets for guys who will not make POR a contender, in the name of contention, does not mean I do not support my team.

I support my team more than TOR fans support my team in arguing against a trade that is NOT in the best interest of my team.

It is in the best interest of your team.

Makes me wonder why you waste so much of your time on the Raptors board then

[JRoy]

Just purely curious here, where do you guys value Barnes in relation to Miller & Scoot?

If you could pick 2 out of those 3 given no restriction, which 2 would you ultimately pick to be the duo?

The thing is, Scoot would be going #1 in many drafts. He's just stuck behind Wemby. Barnes isn't worth a #1 pick, which is Scoots value.

I can't tell how much of Miller going at 2 is real and how much of it is an intense smokescreen to pump up Portlands pick value. But he's in a similar tier to predraft Barnes. I'll give Barnes the edge though because he's won ROY and seems like at worst he's a starter level player

So Scoot>Scottie>Miller

I’m not a Scoot believer. There is a good chance I am wrong and he will have a fine career but I see a short athlete with a weak shot.

[HangTime]

Here are the 4 all-time trades we made with the Blazers which was one was your favourite?-

JRoy , I'd like to hear your opinion too.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/trades.fcgi?f1=TOR&f2=POR

[JRoy]

Then what’s the point of the Blazers doing anything if you have a complaint in every aspect of the team? Might as well abolish the team or send it to Seattle

Try to compete? Nah the coach sucks and Dame isn’t good enough to get us there

What makes you think Billups would develop young talent any better than he’d help the team win

I don’t believe for a moment that Billups is good at either.

Hiring a rookie head coach with zero experience as head coach on any level is not the right decision when contention is the goal.

Was it a stealth-rebuild hire or a tragic mis-hire?

That I do not support trading top assets for guys who will not make POR a contender, in the name of contention, does not mean I do not support my team.

I support my team more than TOR fans support my team in arguing against a trade that is NOT in the best interest of my team.

It is in the best interest of your team.

Makes me wonder why you waste so much of your time on the Raptors board then

I enjoy the dialogue with a passionate and engaged fanbase.

[NinjaBro]

Not sure why everyone continues to jump on JRoy.

He’s a tanker. Wants to build the through the draft for many of the same reasons tWo exists (not a FA destination, high end talent typically found top of draft, control player W/ rookie deal and RFA).

IMO difference between JRoy/Portland and tWo/Raptors is Lillard is a legit 1st option who’s had dreadful management.

The only reason tWo exists is because we never had a legit first option until Kawhi came along.

[JRoy]

Here are the 4 all-time trades we made with the Blazers which was one was your favourite?-

JRoy , I'd like to hear your opinion too.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/trades.fcgi?f1=TOR&f2=POR

The Stoudamire one; he was a local boy coming home. It had been several years since POR had a pg that could shoot.

99-01 was a pretty good Blazer team. Not good enough but good and deep.

Really liked Walt Williams.

[Clutch0z24]

What we all want to happen



Vs Reality

[TrustFundBaby]

Not sure why everyone continues to jump on JRoy.

He’s a tanker. Wants to build the through the draft for many of the same reasons tWo exists (not a FA destination, high end talent typically found top of draft, control player W/ rookie deal and RFA).

IMO difference between JRoy/Portland and tWo/Raptors is Lillard is a legit 1st option who’s had dreadful management.

tWo getting tilted dealing with JRoy when he's just tWo Portland edition

[JRoy]

Not sure why everyone continues to jump on JRoy.

He’s a tanker. Wants to build the through the draft for many of the same reasons tWo exists (not a FA destination, high end talent typically found top of draft, control player W/ rookie deal and RFA).

IMO difference between JRoy/Portland and tWo/Raptors is Lillard is a legit 1st option who’s had dreadful management.

tWo getting tilted dealing with JRoy when he's just tWo Portland edition

What is tWo?

[Jcity08]

Anyone that isn't asleep knows that Portland have been slowly rebuilding through youth movement and it would be stupid of the to trade their #3 pick and young talent just for one last hurrah with Lillard.

Frame this as tWo being upset is hilarious, since its objectively false, most tWo wanted to tank at the deadline and not have to deal with these bull homer trade scenarios.

[DemHeavyHands]

Not sure why everyone continues to jump on JRoy.

He’s a tanker. Wants to build the through the draft for many of the same reasons tWo exists (not a FA destination, high end talent typically found top of draft, control player W/ rookie deal and RFA).

IMO difference between JRoy/Portland and tWo/Raptors is Lillard is a legit 1st option who’s had dreadful management.

tWo getting tilted dealing with JRoy when he's just tWo Portland edition

What is tWo?

Just replace ‘New’ with ‘Tank’ and imagine hogan, nash and co. were raptors realgm posters who want to blow up the team

[MavCarter]

Rather, Masai discounts value of draft picks. Gives too much away in draft capital to acquire players, then asks for too much in return for his own players.

And yet that "draft capital" he's given up has yet to produce a decent player for the team using them