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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#441 » by jonjames » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:59 pm

Fischella wrote:Holy hell Jawun Evans, the guy is damn amazing, dont even know how many possesions did he had, almost 40 I'd say, but superefficient, no turnovers for the usage he has, and he can do it all, really high on him



Jawun Evans lookin like Chris Paul out there. Excellent floor general.
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Post#442 » by treefi » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:15 pm

Will the real Ben Lammers come back down to Earth? Junior at Georgia Tech is averaging 17.3ppg, 10.5rpg, 6.0bpg, 62.2fg%, 81.3ft%
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#443 » by doordoor123 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:23 pm

I love this draft right now. So much talent and I'm sure more players will develop as the year goes on. I suspect a lot of sleepers.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#444 » by doordoor123 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:53 am

Lonzo Ball is going to be much better in the NBA. UCLA is running only set-plays. When he starts playing with the P&R he's going to be hard to stop.
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Post#445 » by treefi » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:42 pm

doordoor123 wrote:Lonzo Ball is going to be much better in the NBA. UCLA is running only set-plays. When he starts playing with the P&R he's going to be hard to stop.


I don't know how DX can rank him #16 right now.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#446 » by doordoor123 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:43 pm

treefi wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:Lonzo Ball is going to be much better in the NBA. UCLA is running only set-plays. When he starts playing with the P&R he's going to be hard to stop.


I don't know how DX can rank him #16 right now.


I honestly don't know why DX's mocks are so highly regarded. They have good evaluators, but their mocks are completely biased and not well thought-out.


I also think TJ Leaf should be a lottery pick. He moves so well at 6'10, passes very well, has a very nice stroke, super soft hands. His issues are confidence, defense and maybe motor. When I say motor, he doesn't attack rebounds the way rebounding bigs in the NBA do, but I think it's a spacing thing and something he could learn.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#447 » by GimmeDat » Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:34 am

From memory, someone asked Mike Schmitz on Twitter the other day why Ball was so low and he said it was because he's got some question marks that they want to feel confident in before they boost him up. I still don't see how he's not top 10 at the very least, though.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#448 » by No-Man » Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:40 pm

Enough with Leaf he's a multiyear player for sure, below average length, not that athletic, although mobile and basically needs to be a superstar shooter to make it, he might but no way as a lotto pick, no way this season.
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Post#449 » by doordoor123 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:40 pm

Fischella wrote:Enough with Leaf he's a multiyear player for sure, below average length, not that athletic, although mobile and basically needs to be a superstar shooter to make it, he might but no way as a lotto pick, no way this season.


I agree he doesn't have the length, but he's sneaky more athletic than you might think. I'm also not saying he's an all-around prospect, but he has a lot of potential offensively. I think he will be a good shooter with his stroke and great passer. That in itself has a lot of value from his position.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#450 » by No-Man » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:15 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Enough with Leaf he's a multiyear player for sure, below average length, not that athletic, although mobile and basically needs to be a superstar shooter to make it, he might but no way as a lotto pick, no way this season.


I agree he doesn't have the length, but he's sneaky more athletic than you might think. I'm also not saying he's an all-around prospect, but he has a lot of potential offensively. I think he will be a good shooter with his stroke and great passer. That in itself has a lot of value from his position.

he might be an NBA player down the road, if he hones his shooting skills might be a better passer, more mobile, muhc less stiffier version of Wiltjer, but like I said gotta wait and see and he should stay at least 2 years in UCLA
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#451 » by Coeur » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:41 pm

treefi wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:Lonzo Ball is going to be much better in the NBA. UCLA is running only set-plays. When he starts playing with the P&R he's going to be hard to stop.


I don't know how DX can rank him #16 right now.

On the knicks board it's a laughable thought to trade this years 1st and a future first for a pick to get Lonzo.


I figure knicks at a pick between 12-19. A future pick and pick ? 16 for Lonzo at pick 5-7?


Is that laughable?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#452 » by Coeur » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:43 pm

This draft is awesome. It usually ends up
A 1.2.3 player draft and this time there maybe be 10 guys
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#453 » by GimmeDat » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:22 am

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treefi wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:Lonzo Ball is going to be much better in the NBA. UCLA is running only set-plays. When he starts playing with the P&R he's going to be hard to stop.


I don't know how DX can rank him #16 right now.

On the knicks board it's a laughable thought to trade this years 1st and a future first for a pick to get Lonzo.


I figure knicks at a pick between 12-19. A future pick and pick ? 16 for Lonzo at pick 5-7?


Is that laughable?


They wish they could get Ball with those 2 assets.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#454 » by TheSuzerain » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:05 am

Robert Williams on A&M may deserve his own thread.
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Post#455 » by treefi » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:04 am

Peter Jok on Iowa... 25.3ppg in 27.8mpg on 53.1% shooting, 45.3% from 3(4.0/8.8 per game) and he is 6'6" 210.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#456 » by treefi » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:04 am

TheSuzerain wrote:Robert Williams on A&M may deserve his own thread.


Yeah those are some mighty impressive statistics for the amount of playing time!! Nice one.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#457 » by treefi » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:13 am

Fischella wrote:
treefi wrote:1) PF - Caleb Swanigan (6'9", 245, 7'3.5" wingspan) is a couple months younger than Josh Jackson and putting up:
20.7ppg, 13.0rpg, 4.3apg on 58.8% shooting through 3 games for Purdue.

2) PF - Dedric Lawson (6'8" 235, 7'2.5" wingspan) is a few months younger than Caleb Swanigan and putting up:
21.0ppg, 13.0rpg, 3.7apg, 1.7spg, 1.3bpg on 47.1% shooting through 3 games for Memphis.


Check the 1st page of this post, those guys were sleepers last year at this point, not anymore.
Leaf is nice and all but he is not an NBA athlete, plus short for his height, gonna be an uphill battle for him to make it and he's a multiyear player 100%.
Typical guy that plays Euroleague, plus he is from Israel, gonna get more $$ playing for Maccabi than in the league-dleague.


Wait, why can't we talk about Dedric Lawson as a sleeper again? Are we just putting a list together or discussing the prospects? I know you and I were following Lawson closely last year, but what % of NBA fans were? I'd say he is still a sleeper... Sot of a super sleeper imo cuz if he keeps this level up play up he could end up a late lottery pick and right now no one is noticing or talking about him as a prospect at all yet. Tubby Smith seems to have made a major impact on him and he just turned 19 last month. Maybe he's not a sleeper two months from now, but wouldn't that make him one right now?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#458 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:18 am

Probably wont ever play a second in the NBA but just saying this because the dude is just one of the biggest human beings Ive seen. Michael Ojo. 7'1 and 300+ pounds of pure muscle.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#459 » by Marcus » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:49 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Robert Williams on A&M may deserve his own thread.


sooooo first time seeing him play last night against the Bruins. Ummmm yeah. Something scary there with that kid. I'll save it for the head to head because I don't want to jump out the window just yet BUT I will say I can't wait to see him versus Bam Adebayo to see who's better. I'm reserving judgment for the time being since this was just a first impression. Pretty similar in what they bring to the table.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#460 » by Marcus » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:58 pm

doordoor123 wrote:Kaleb Swanigan lost a lot of weight. He must have pushed himself this offseason. I really think he's going to be a steal wherever he goes. You can just tell he loves basketball by the way he plays. If he can push himself to get his body right, he can push his skills to higher and higher levels. I'm a fan.


came in here looking for something on Swan. I've loved his game since high school. Glad to see how hard he's continued to work on his frame. Added the range, like the IQ. Big fan of Caleb's wonder how legit of a shot he has as a first rounder.
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