2016 draft thread: Part 2

Post #441 » by **C.lupus** » Wed May 18, 2016 2:11 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
C.lupus wrote:
subwayJ wrote:Who does the 6ers take? Ingram? Surely they cant take a PF.

Does LAL take simmons even though they have Randell?

I assume that Boston will take a guard? Suns should take Bender?

I think Philly has to make a trade or two either way. They already have Embiid, Okafor, Noel, and Saric coming over. Adding either Simmons or Ingram to that is a giant cluster **** for minutes.

Ingram is the only SF there - have to assume that's who they'll take

Well I view Saric as a SF/PF and without moving somebody he would have to play more SF minutes because there aren't any in the frontcourt (assuming Embiid is healthy). Any way you slice it they are going to have too many 6'10" and up guys and no backcourt.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #442 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Wed May 18, 2016 2:28 am

C.lupus wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:
C.lupus wrote:I think Philly has to make a trade or two either way. They already have Embiid, Okafor, Noel, and Saric coming over. Adding either Simmons or Ingram to that is a giant cluster **** for minutes.

Ingram is the only SF there - have to assume that's who they'll take

Well I view Saric as a SF/PF and without moving somebody he would have to play more SF minutes because there aren't any in the frontcourt (assuming Embiid is healthy). Any way you slice it they are going to have too many 6'10" and up guys and no backcourt.

I was under the impression he was a PF, but I don't recall ever watching him, so I don't know. I'd be surprised if they let him factor into the equation either way. He was Hinkie's guy and Colangelo is probably itching for the chance to come in and mark his territory.

Note30 · Post #443 » by **Note30** » Wed May 18, 2016 2:58 am

Skal is still an option as well I feel. Him Dieng, Belly, Towns would make an awesome frontcourt.

Dleavitt24 · Post #444 » by **Dleavitt24** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:21 am

Few points I want to make.
- Sixers are a mess. Didn't mention okafor during lotto Interview only saric and embiid. I expect him or Noel to be traded.
- skal would be a questionable pickup. We struggle to rebound as is.
- Team needs shooting yes but don't underestimate defense and rebounding. Dunn and brown exceptional at there positions.
- trading out is an option but hard to see options out there that have as much talent and where the dollars work. We don't have alot of good tradeable contracts.
- nothing wrong with allowing a prospect develop and earn mins...except no dleague team.

ESPNSAMI · Post #445 » by **ESPNSAMI** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:22 am

What do you wolves fans think is the best/worse case for this years draft?

Worst case- Kris Dunn- don't need another point guard who can't shoot.

Best Case- trade the pick for a proven player or my choice PRAY Jamal murray is still around.

Hoping Boston falls in love with Bender and Murray lands on our lap

RationalGaze · Post #446 » by **RationalGaze** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:25 am

Note30 wrote:Skal is still an option as well I feel. Him Dieng, Belly, Towns would make an awesome frontcourt.

Skal is mentally soft. He would not be a good pick.

rugbyrugger23 · Post #447 » by **rugbyrugger23** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:32 am

To Philly
#5 (get their guard)
#11 (BPA but probably a wing)

To Magic
Noel (get their defensive PF/C)
#24

To Wolves
A Gordon
Watson

Wolves may need to throw in a future 1st swap, Bazz, but I think a value equation can be solved.

Wolves get their stretch PF who can play some D.

Towns
Gordon
Wiggins
LaVine
Rubio

Dleavitt24 · Post #448 » by **Dleavitt24** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:38 am

I'd be happy with that but no way Philly gets more picks when they are trying to get older

casteral · Post #449 » by **casteral** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:55 am

Imagine the wolves practice dunk offs with Lavine, Gordon and Wiggins, ohhhh myyyy

casteral · Post #450 » by **casteral** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:55 am

Plus, KAT, Rubio might lead league in alley oop assists

andyhop · Post #451 » by **andyhop** » Wed May 18, 2016 3:59 am

I wouldn't plan on taking any holidays to Disney World If I was you

minimus · Post #452 » by **minimus** » Wed May 18, 2016 4:11 am

gopher wolf wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:would you trade the #5 to LA for Randle?

No, the Wolves are guaranteed to get one of Bender/Murray/Hield and I'd take any of them over Randle.

I'd much rather have Randle over Murray or Hield.

I'd rather have a rookie on full rookie contract.

casteral · Post #453 » by **casteral** » Wed May 18, 2016 4:13 am

I'd doubt that trade would happen tbh. Wolves could have several good options for their pick, question is what direction does Thibs want to take. I hope they don't just trade it for a vet. Murray or Buddy would great additions if Bender doesn't fall. Do not want Dunn.

big3_8_19_21 · Post #454 » by **big3_8_19_21** » Wed May 18, 2016 4:48 am

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Ramifications-of-the-Ping-Pong-Balls-Post-Lottery-Analysis--5488

Picking Dragan Bender wouldn't really be a very Danny Ainge move judging by his track record, as he's traditionally shied away from European prospects, not to mention that Bender is the youngest player in the draft. Jaylen Brown and Skal Labissiere both have to be considered for that reason, as they both fit positions of need, while also undoubtedly possessing significant upside as former top-five high school recruits (who didn't really produce in college).

Trade up for Bender? Does 5+Bazz get it done? I do prefer Bender, but I don't know if that's enough and I probably would not give more. Dieng is too much.

the_bruce · Post #455 » by **the_bruce** » Wed May 18, 2016 5:16 am

Looks like wolves will be left with the choice of murray or hield, and I'm more than ok with that.

I guess a trade for a pf vet could fit too. Faried + 19 for #5

gopher wolf · Post #456 » by **gopher wolf** » Wed May 18, 2016 5:42 am

I'm starting to warm up to Skal. Of course #5 would be too much of a reach but I wouldn't mind trading down to about #12. He has potential as a rim protector and has good feet that enables him to be competent guarding on the perimeter and has shown flashes of both a great post game and a nice mid range game. I feel like he could be the Myles Turner of this year's class. Both were ranked the #2 prospects in the country by espn in HS, were relatively unproductive in college and Skal is projected to go in a similar range to Turner and has a similar game. If we do end up taking an unproductive, underwhelming big, I'd much, much prefer him over Deyonta Davis whom I don't care for one bit.

gopher wolf · Post #457 » by **gopher wolf** » Wed May 18, 2016 6:03 am

Actually, Skal's and Turner's weaknesses from their DX videos are nearly identical. Skal's are Strength/Toughness, Defensive rebounding, offensive polish and fundamentals on D. Tuner's were athleticism, strength/toughness, offensive polish and fundamentals on D. His NBA stats ended up being nearly identical to his college stats. Also, Skal is a better athlete than Turner and should be a better perimeter defender.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #458 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Wed May 18, 2016 6:13 am

Draft Murray and call it a day.

Hes got ties to both Kat and Wiggins.

Vindicater · Post #459 » by **Vindicater** » Wed May 18, 2016 6:48 am

Note30 wrote:Skal is still an option as well I feel. Him Dieng, Belly, Towns would make an awesome frontcourt.

No.

If we take Skal it better be because we traded down to #8/9/10 and gained another asset.

urinesane · Post #460 » by **urinesane** » Wed May 18, 2016 8:32 am

I honestly don't care who they draft. I trust Thibs to get good value.

I just hope that we don't trade away Bazz/Dieng/Rubio/LaVine (Wiggins/Towns are untouchable imo).

I think all of those guys could make big strides with Thibs. I'm not interested in trading one of them for a rookie (or even a rotation guy).