Jaylen Brown thread

FakeScreenName123 · Post #441 » by **FakeScreenName123** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 12:25 am

ya some of this criticism seems all too convenient

BostonCouchGM · Post #442 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 12:44 am

Saint Lazarus wrote:Some of y'all are really, really, and I mean REALLY pathetic. Hating on a 22 year old by questioning his mentality and heart is really sad. If you wanna call him out for being in a slump or not shooting well, fine. If you wanna bench him, fine. But are we really going to question his heart? Dude plays hard and the right way. Went from being a bench warmer without any feel for the game in his first season to becoming a starter and one of the 3 best players on this team during the playoffs. Give me a break.

I haven't really seen a lot of heart this season. He's playing lackadaisical especially on defense and has poor body language on and off the bench. I don't think it's a surprise we showed more energy as a team with him out. So I can understand why people question his heart. I'd argue that Rozier, Tatum and Horford were our 3 best players last playoffs. There's more to the game than scoring and all three were better overall players than Brown

Saint Lazarus · Post #443 » by **Saint Lazarus** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:51 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:
Saint Lazarus wrote:Some of y'all are really, really, and I mean REALLY pathetic. Hating on a 22 year old by questioning his mentality and heart is really sad. If you wanna call him out for being in a slump or not shooting well, fine. If you wanna bench him, fine. But are we really going to question his heart? Dude plays hard and the right way. Went from being a bench warmer without any feel for the game in his first season to becoming a starter and one of the 3 best players on this team during the playoffs. Give me a break.

I haven't really seen a lot of heart this season. He's playing lackadaisical especially on defense and has poor body language on and off the bench. I don't think it's a surprise we showed more energy as a team with him out. So I can understand why people question his heart. I'd argue that Rozier, Tatum and Horford were our 3 best players last playoffs. There's more to the game than scoring and all three were better overall players than Brown

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yeah someone putting his body on the line to play defense doesn't have heart. lmfao

Edug27 · Post #444 » by **Edug27** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 3:54 pm

All this heart talk is nonsense. At the end of the day, he struggles shooting the 3, shooting FT's, dribbling, creating, making the right pass/play... Pretty much anything that doesn't involve jumping. So until he shows improvement in those areas, it'll be hard to find consistent minutes on this team. He's better suited for a rebuilding situation like Atlanta.

cloverleaf · Post #445 » by **cloverleaf** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 4:04 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:
Saint Lazarus wrote:Some of y'all are really, really, and I mean REALLY pathetic. Hating on a 22 year old by questioning his mentality and heart is really sad. If you wanna call him out for being in a slump or not shooting well, fine. If you wanna bench him, fine. But are we really going to question his heart? Dude plays hard and the right way. Went from being a bench warmer without any feel for the game in his first season to becoming a starter and one of the 3 best players on this team during the playoffs. Give me a break.

I haven't really seen a lot of heart this season. He's playing lackadaisical especially on defense and has poor body language on and off the bench. I don't think it's a surprise we showed more energy as a team with him out. So I can understand why people question his heart. I'd argue that Rozier, Tatum and Horford were our 3 best players last playoffs. There's more to the game than scoring and all three were better overall players than Brown

Agreed. I'd put Smart in there too. JB was the 5th best player on the playoffs, after the team's 2 best were out due to injury. His contribution was flashy, but too much has been made of it. He is at best a limited (3, slash and D) player who can be valuable if he's doing that at the top of his game. Take away the 3 or D from that equation and he's a limited bench player -- as opposed to a limited starter.

DaTruth34 · Post #446 » by **DaTruth34** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 5:49 pm

Haters gonna hate. I never saw bashing a young player like jaylen in many years on this board. Sometimes celtics fans are bad people with selective memory

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3pt % · Post #447 » by **3pt %** » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:48 pm

Bad situation for Brown, and the team. Everyone knew it was going to be a challenge intergrating all the players.
If Brown comes off the bench and plays well, this slump will barely be remembered.

GrandTheftRondo · Post #448 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 3:53 am

DaTruth34 wrote:Haters gonna hate. I never saw bashing a young player like jaylen in many years on this board. Sometimes celtics fans are bad people with selective memory

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BECause there are a lot of fans who hated the pick from the start and refuse to admit they were wrong.

31to6 · Post #449 » by **31to6** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 4:01 am

just want to mention that the last game Jaylen played before tonight, he played the same way he played tonight. Let's go young buck!

return2glory · Post #450 » by **return2glory** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 5:46 am

I will give him credit. He had his best game of the season.

I like him off the bench with this roster. He played with purpose instead of settling for the 3. He attacked the basket all night and got to the line often. Something he would be doing more of.

Wes-J · Post #451 » by **Wes-J** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 6:33 am

When the 3 starts to fall everybody will be singing a different tune.

Bench works for me.

Post #452 » by **ParticleMan** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 8:01 am

much better mindset by jaylen this game. not settling for the first available shot, looking to penetrate and trusting your decision making. sometimes watching the flow for a few days can really open your eyes. jaylen is still learning. now just get that 3 ball going again.

cloverleaf · Post #453 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:06 pm

31to6 wrote:just want to mention that the last game Jaylen played before tonight, he played the same way he played tonight. Let's go young buck!

Good to see the injury didn't make him shy off of that too.

And yep, he figured out how to be valuable without his 3 the game before his injury, perhaps finding that he's better at attacking the basket than we was before, even though the 3's not dropping.

Brown has always reminded me a bit of Dominique Wilkins. If he can notch his rebounding up as he develops I think he could really contribute along those lines (though Nique was more developed and impactful as a young player coming up). Brown's still a year younger than Nique was his first year in the league but if he can maintain a defensive balance plus get his 3 to go again and bolster his rebounding he could be the modern version of Wilkins--which is an AS-level starting player who doesn't do everything, but is very impactful in what he does. That is also a player who is complementary to Kyrie, Gordon and Jayson (and Rob!) the way that Ray was complementary to Paul and KG.

GrandTheftRondo · Post #454 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:19 pm

Honestly I wonder if part of his struggles came from coaching.

When he came into the league I remember in summer league he was a foul drawing machine and wanted to destroy anyone in his way.

Haven’t seen much of that at all since. I don’t buy that his handle isn’t good enough. Sure he doesn’t have a real tight handle but he has the explosiveness to get to the rim if someone respects his three.

FlatearthZorro · Post #455 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:50 pm

You can say whatever you want about Brown, I still believe he's a star in the making. He can shoot, he's athletic, strong, long arms, good size, can make the big shot and isn't afraid to take it. Imo, his struggles have been as much about him as they have been about the team struggling as a whole. Kid's a stud. Can't believe most of you are writing him off cause of 11-12 games where he's not been great.

FlatearthZorro · Post #456 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 12:51 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:Honestly I wonder if part of his struggles came from coaching.

When he came into the league I remember in summer league he was a foul drawing machine and wanted to destroy anyone in his way.

Haven’t seen much of that at all since. I don’t buy that his handle isn’t good enough. Sure he doesn’t have a real tight handle but he has the explosiveness to get to the rim if someone respects his three.

Didn't even see your post before I posted. Yea, I think it's been about coaching, team chemistry as much as it's been about him. Kid averaged 18 in the playoffs shooting .480 from the field. I mean come on....

GrandTheftRondo · Post #457 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 1:55 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:Honestly I wonder if part of his struggles came from coaching.

When he came into the league I remember in summer league he was a foul drawing machine and wanted to destroy anyone in his way.

Haven’t seen much of that at all since. I don’t buy that his handle isn’t good enough. Sure he doesn’t have a real tight handle but he has the explosiveness to get to the rim if someone respects his three.

Didn't even see your post before I posted. Yea, I think it's been about coaching, team chemistry as much as it's been about him. Kid averaged 18 in the playoffs shooting .480 from the field. I mean come on....

I was meaning more in general. Not just the games he's played this year. He came into the league regarded as a guy who couldn't shoot and was reckless at the basket.

He obviously showed he could shoot over the last two seasons. But I really feel as though he lost a lot of the aggression he had coming into the league.

Might also have something to do with his poor FT shooting.

Post #458 » by **sully00** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 3:13 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:Honestly I wonder if part of his struggles came from coaching.

When he came into the league I remember in summer league he was a foul drawing machine and wanted to destroy anyone in his way.

Haven’t seen much of that at all since. I don’t buy that his handle isn’t good enough. Sure he doesn’t have a real tight handle but he has the explosiveness to get to the rim if someone respects his three.

I think the big issue for this group going is that everyone is afraid to be the problem. Everyone is afraid to appear to be the selfish guy that doesn't fit so their ass is the one that gets shipped to PHX or ATL or wherever. Even more so for Brown and Rozier as it wouldn't take very long to put a deal together for one of them.

Going into last season this team was set to play a certain way with Hayward and Kyrie. Once Hayward went down roles changed and Hayward isn't really ready to do some of what he was able to do prior to the injury yet.

JB was much more aggressive last night attacking the rim that said the Knicks are about as defenseless a basketball team as I have ever seen so tough to take too much away from that.

cloverleaf · Post #459 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 5:25 pm

sully00 wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:Honestly I wonder if part of his struggles came from coaching.

When he came into the league I remember in summer league he was a foul drawing machine and wanted to destroy anyone in his way.

Haven’t seen much of that at all since. I don’t buy that his handle isn’t good enough. Sure he doesn’t have a real tight handle but he has the explosiveness to get to the rim if someone respects his three.

I think the big issue for this group going is that everyone is afraid to be the problem. Everyone is afraid to appear to be the selfish guy that doesn't fit so their ass is the one that gets shipped to PHX or ATL or wherever. Even more so for Brown and Rozier as it wouldn't take very long to put a deal together for one of them.

Going into last season this team was set to play a certain way with Hayward and Kyrie. Once Hayward went down roles changed and Hayward isn't really ready to do some of what he was able to do prior to the injury yet.

JB was much more aggressive last night attacking the rim that said the Knicks are about as defenseless a basketball team as I have ever seen so tough to take too much away from that.

I doubt JB (or JT or MS or TR, for that matter) was settling for jumpers rather than going to the basket so as not to appear selfish. I think they just got the idea they could live off the 3 and avoid either looking bad or going down like GH last year by not over-emphasizing their drives. JB's usage really hasn't dropped this year from previous years. I just think his shot was off and he was being timid about going to the basket.

But no matter, if he keeps this up he should be fine.

thelarrybirdx · Post #460 » by **thelarrybirdx** » Fri Dec 7, 2018 5:54 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:Honestly I wonder if part of his struggles came from coaching.

When he came into the league I remember in summer league he was a foul drawing machine and wanted to destroy anyone in his way.

Haven’t seen much of that at all since. I don’t buy that his handle isn’t good enough. Sure he doesn’t have a real tight handle but he has the explosiveness to get to the rim if someone respects his three.

His issue was that he was playing terribly.

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