2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT)

[Worst_to_First]

so his floor is not cracking 10 ppg till his 3rd season? Nah I’ll pass on that lol

Mikal Bridges is two years in and hasn't cracked 10ppg yet either. Would you consider him a bad pick as well? Last I checked everyone around here is butthurt we took Knox over him.

If Okoro's floor is Anunoby then I feel good picking him.

Mikal is a decent player but he is the last guy Knicks fans should be butthurt about missing out on. SGA is the guy we should’ve picked.

I didn’t consider taking a closer look at SGA back then as I thought that we already had Frank and drafting another guard would just affect his development.

That is why even as much a I like Mitch (didn’t want him traded for AD) that didn’t stop me from doing a deeper dive on Wiseman.

Hopefully the guys making the decisions have a similar approach.

[Cookies4Life]

I don't understand why it has to be Wiseman or Mitchell. Why can't we have both?

if management believes Wiseman to be the player with the most upside in this year's draft- which is probably the case- isn't his offensive game good enough for him to play at the 4 and backup 5? I didn't watch Memphis last season but it looks like from his workout videos that he has a jumper.

I saw some of his videos and he has good handles for someone his size. Is it inconceivable to assume he could be a hybrid 4/5? That would be a lot of length at the PF and C positions.

[robillionaire]

I don't understand why it has to be Wiseman or Mitchell. Why can't we have both?

if management believes Wiseman to be the player with the most upside in this year's draft- which is probably the case- isn't his offensive game good enough for him to play at the 4 and backup 5? I didn't watch Memphis last season but it looks like from his workout videos that he has a jumper.

I saw some of his videos and he has good handles for someone his size. Is it inconceivable to assume he could be a hybrid 4/5? That would be a lot of length at the PF and C positions.

That's kinda what I don't get, if we accept the narrative that mitch is a dinosaur and has no value and is basically javale mcgee, then we should just keep him as the backup center who is being paid appropriately for the next two seasons and start wiseman

wiseman isn't a 4 though and his jumper looks wack to me

[Richard4444]

Mikal Bridges is two years in and hasn't cracked 10ppg yet either. Would you consider him a bad pick as well? Last I checked everyone around here is butthurt we took Knox over him.

If Okoro's floor is Anunoby then I feel good picking him.

Mikal is a decent player but he is the last guy Knicks fans should be butthurt about missing out on. SGA is the guy we should’ve picked.

I didn’t consider taking a closer look at SGA back then as I thought that we already had Frank and drafting another guard would just affect his development.

That is why even as much a I like Mitch (didn’t want him traded for AD) that didn’t stop me from doing a deeper dive on Wiseman.

Hopefully the guys making the decisions have a similar approach.

The difference is its possible to have a team with multiple point guards. You can also use a point guard as a sixth man. OKC has used 3 point guards last season around 30 minutes a game. You can have multiple point guards. Especially if all can play defense and defend multiple positions.

But you cant play 2 rin runners together. One of them will play around just 15 minutes a game.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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like his skills, but his lack of athleticism is really limiting. i'd root for him all day, but i struggle to see hit fit in an NBA rotation.

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def got one eye on him. those passes. sheesh.

[3toheadmelo]

Mikal Bridges is two years in and hasn't cracked 10ppg yet either. Would you consider him a bad pick as well? Last I checked everyone around here is butthurt we took Knox over him.

If Okoro's floor is Anunoby then I feel good picking him.

Mikal is a decent player but he is the last guy Knicks fans should be butthurt about missing out on. SGA is the guy we should’ve picked.

I didn’t consider taking a closer look at SGA back then as I thought that we already had Frank and drafting another guard would just affect his development.

That is why even as much a I like Mitch (didn’t want him traded for AD) that didn’t stop me from doing a deeper dive on Wiseman.

Hopefully the guys making the decisions have a similar approach.

I was intrigued by SGA for most of his college season and thought he looked pretty nice. But I saw one of his tourney games and I was turned off by him and didn’t really want him anymore. I was wrong lol

But back to ur point, I made the same mistake as well last year. Even though I had Ja Morant as the 2nd best prospect of the draft, I didn’t want him cause we had DSJ. We sure could use Ja right now.

[thebuzzardman]

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like his skills, but his lack of athleticism is really limiting. i'd root for him all day, but i struggle to see hit fit in an NBA rotation.

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def got one eye on him. those passes. sheesh.

If he perms his hair, he can be our replacement Ron Baker.

[Capn'O]

Mikal is a decent player but he is the last guy Knicks fans should be butthurt about missing out on. SGA is the guy we should’ve picked.

I didn’t consider taking a closer look at SGA back then as I thought that we already had Frank and drafting another guard would just affect his development.

That is why even as much a I like Mitch (didn’t want him traded for AD) that didn’t stop me from doing a deeper dive on Wiseman.

Hopefully the guys making the decisions have a similar approach.

I was intrigued by SGA for most of his college season and thought he looked pretty nice. But I saw one of his tourney games and I was turned off by him and didn’t really want him anymore. I was wrong lol

But back to ur point, I made the same mistake as well last year. Even though I had Ja Morant as the 2nd best prospect of the draft, I didn’t want him cause we had DSJ. We sure could use Ja right now.

If there's a player you think is a tier above the rest you shoot first and ask questions about fit later. As you know, I felt that way about SGA. If Wiseman is there at 8 I don't even think once and take him unless Hayes also is for some reason.

Hayes is the one guy I want to trade up for. But I also have not scouted much at all this year so there may be others.

[RHODEY]

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[3toheadmelo]

I didn’t consider taking a closer look at SGA back then as I thought that we already had Frank and drafting another guard would just affect his development.

That is why even as much a I like Mitch (didn’t want him traded for AD) that didn’t stop me from doing a deeper dive on Wiseman.

Hopefully the guys making the decisions have a similar approach.

I was intrigued by SGA for most of his college season and thought he looked pretty nice. But I saw one of his tourney games and I was turned off by him and didn’t really want him anymore. I was wrong lol

But back to ur point, I made the same mistake as well last year. Even though I had Ja Morant as the 2nd best prospect of the draft, I didn’t want him cause we had DSJ. We sure could use Ja right now.

If there's a player you think is a tier above the rest you shoot first and ask questions about fit later. As you know, I felt that way about SGA. If Wiseman is there at 8 I don't even think once and take him unless Hayes also is for some reason.

Hayes is the one guy I want to trade up for. But I also have not scouted much at all this year so there may be others.

Yeah always take the best talent. Unless you already have that part down and just need a glue guy (like the Suns did with Mikal).

Hayes and Kira are my guys at #8. Unless Wiseman drops which I don’t think will happen.

Ima put you on Kira though... I know you loved Fox and Kira imo is a bit similar.

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[Fat]

Is Sam Merrill the closes thing to a herro in this draft?

His age Kind of sucks already 24

[Dantares]

I was intrigued by SGA for most of his college season and thought he looked pretty nice. But I saw one of his tourney games and I was turned off by him and didn’t really want him anymore. I was wrong lol

But back to ur point, I made the same mistake as well last year. Even though I had Ja Morant as the 2nd best prospect of the draft, I didn’t want him cause we had DSJ. We sure could use Ja right now.

If there's a player you think is a tier above the rest you shoot first and ask questions about fit later. As you know, I felt that way about SGA. If Wiseman is there at 8 I don't even think once and take him unless Hayes also is for some reason.

Hayes is the one guy I want to trade up for. But I also have not scouted much at all this year so there may be others.

Yeah always take the best talent. Unless you already have that part down and just need a glue guy (like the Suns did with Mikal).

Hayes and Kira are my guys at #8. Unless Wiseman drops which I don’t think will happen.

Ima put you on Kira though... I know you loved Fox and Kira imo is a bit similar.

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He's a stud. I'm surprised he hasn't really moved up the draft boards yet. I remember De'aaron Fox went from late lottery/mid first round all the way to top 5 on draft night. I hope other scouts and execs keep underrating Kira and we snatch him up.

[3toheadmelo]

If there's a player you think is a tier above the rest you shoot first and ask questions about fit later. As you know, I felt that way about SGA. If Wiseman is there at 8 I don't even think once and take him unless Hayes also is for some reason.

Hayes is the one guy I want to trade up for. But I also have not scouted much at all this year so there may be others.

Yeah always take the best talent. Unless you already have that part down and just need a glue guy (like the Suns did with Mikal).

Hayes and Kira are my guys at #8. Unless Wiseman drops which I don’t think will happen.

Ima put you on Kira though... I know you loved Fox and Kira imo is a bit similar.

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He's a stud. I'm surprised he hasn't really moved up the draft boards yet. I remember De'aaron Fox went from late lottery/mid first round all the way to top 5 on draft night. I hope other scouts and execs keep underrating Kira and we snatch him up.

I got Kira in my top 5

[Capn'O]

I'm not convinced he's a true point like Fox but he's a nice player. Attack guard like Sexton.

[Dantares]

I'm not convinced he's a true point like Fox but he's a nice player.

well I am always hearing you dont really need a true point guard nowadays. you need a scoring point guard. Kira can do drive and kick really well, high pick and roll, attacks closeouts, spot up 3point shooter, hit the pull up when the defender gives him to much space to stop the drive.

Frank and RJ can be our true point guards. Both of them have high Bball IQ and i trust they will do the traditional PG passes: thread the needle, passing the ball ahead, passes off curl plays when guys are ready to shoot and in rhythm

[3toheadmelo]

I'm not convinced he's a true point like Fox but he's a nice player.

Yep. Kira's passing is really only his main flaw which honestly isn't even that bad. He has everything else you want in a young PG though. I think he's gonna be a major steal. I was reading that Kenny Payne was heavily recruiting Kira to UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling for the Knicks to draft him. Payne actually told Kira himself that he reminds him of Fox a bit too.

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[Capn'O]

I'm not convinced he's a true point like Fox but he's a nice player.

Yep. Kira's passing is really only his main flaw which honestly isn't even that bad. He has everything else you want in a young PG though. I think he's gonna be a major steal. I was reading that Kenny Payne was heavily recruiting Kira to UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling for the Knicks to draft him. Payne actually told Kira himself that he reminds him of Fox a bit too.

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His style to me is more like Sexton but his body is like Fox

[3toheadmelo]

I'm not convinced he's a true point like Fox but he's a nice player.

Yep. Kira's passing is really only his main flaw which honestly isn't even that bad. He has everything else you want in a young PG though. I think he's gonna be a major steal. I was reading that Kenny Payne was heavily recruiting Kira to UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling for the Knicks to draft him. Payne actually told Kira himself that he reminds him of Fox a bit too.

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His style to me is more like Sexton but his body is like Fox

I think his passing is better than Sexton. I really liked Sexton (still do), but IMO I think Kira has shown much better passing instincts.

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[WajaBawl]

Yep. Kira's passing is really only his main flaw which honestly isn't even that bad. He has everything else you want in a young PG though. I think he's gonna be a major steal. I was reading that Kenny Payne was heavily recruiting Kira to UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's pulling for the Knicks to draft him. Payne actually told Kira himself that he reminds him of Fox a bit too.

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His style to me is more like Sexton but his body is like Fox

I think his passing is better than Sexton. I really liked Sexton (still do), but IMO I think Kira has shown much better passing instincts.

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I've been saying we need to trade for another mid first and snatch him but the way things are looking we might just have to pick him 8th.

I think he'd greatly elevate RJ, Knox and Mitchs game by setting them up for easy baskets with his aggressive play, speed & shotmaking ability.

[Chanel Bomber]

BTW, I think it's impressive that the 76'ers managed to tie up roughly 50% of the cap in their 3rd and 4th options.

I mean, stuff like that used to be the Knicks speciality.

Did Brand go to the Steve Mills School Of NBA Executives?

3rd and 4th options who play the same positions as their 1st and 2nd options no less.

It's truly remarkable how Elton Brand destroyed the Sixers future