2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 2)

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Which rookie impresses you the most?

Cade Cunningham
24
8%
Jalen Green
9
3%
Evan Mobley
76
26%
Scottie Barnes
104
36%
Jalen Suggs
4
1%
Josh Giddey
17
6%
Franz Wagner
42
15%
Chris Duarte
1
0%
Davion Mitchell
3
1%
Other
9
3%
 
Total votes: 289

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Post#441 » by 10giz » Sun Nov 7, 2021 10:57 pm

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Still recovering from a sprained thumb.

He's entrusted with a lot of other responsibilities and is almost aways exhausted in the 4th quarter. Not his fault, he's just moving around at a league leading level and doing a lot.

Hopefully now that Siakam is back his burden will ease up a bit.

lol he's fine, and he didnt play the 3rd quarter because of foul trouble he wasn't exhausted.

He didnt play alot the 2nd half due to fouls, and nurse didnt put him back in for god knows why? probably nurse worst coached game ive seen him have as a raptor. On top of the limited minutes in the 2nd half team never passed to him, he would seal a 6 ft 3 guard right undewr the rim and get looked off. its pathetic
30 minutes is more than almost all the rookies average.

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His previous 5: 38:21 - 34:44 - 36:47 - 36:07 - 39:01

Really, with him whether he plays 30 or 40, he's playing as hard if not harder than anyone and the numbers are backing it up.

Shouldn't put offence on him as well, that's not putting him in a position to succeed.
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Post#442 » by basketballRob » Sun Nov 7, 2021 10:58 pm

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tdotrep2 wrote:lol he's fine, and he didnt play the 3rd quarter because of foul trouble he wasn't exhausted.

He didnt play alot the 2nd half due to fouls, and nurse didnt put him back in for god knows why? probably nurse worst coached game ive seen him have as a raptor. On top of the limited minutes in the 2nd half team never passed to him, he would seal a 6 ft 3 guard right undewr the rim and get looked off. its pathetic
30 minutes is more than almost all the rookies average.

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what? ok? we talking about fatigue in the 4th quarter. what are you talking about
Someone posted that he didn't play many minutes.

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Post#443 » by Bruin » Sun Nov 7, 2021 10:58 pm

basketballRob wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:
10giz wrote:
Still recovering from a sprained thumb.

He's entrusted with a lot of other responsibilities and is almost aways exhausted in the 4th quarter. Not his fault, he's just moving around at a league leading level and doing a lot.

Hopefully now that Siakam is back his burden will ease up a bit.

lol he's fine, and he didnt play the 3rd quarter because of foul trouble he wasn't exhausted.

He didnt play alot the 2nd half due to fouls, and nurse didnt put him back in for god knows why? probably nurse worst coached game ive seen him have as a raptor. On top of the limited minutes in the 2nd half team never passed to him, he would seal a 6 ft 3 guard right undewr the rim and get looked off. its pathetic
30 minutes is more than almost all the rookies average.

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That’s not even the point. You’d understand if you saw the game. Barnes got taken out with 8 minutes in the 3rd cause of foul trouble. Came in for the first few minutes of the 4th, then for some reason Svi got put into the lineup when Barnes was playing well. Then Barnes basically got put back in with 3 minutes to go and down 15 (game basically over) and instantly started a little run with 2 steal. But too little too late
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Post#444 » by 10giz » Sun Nov 7, 2021 11:00 pm

It's the same reason CLE isn't making Mobley take 20+ shots even though he could easily handle it.

He's doing so much in so many other areas while playing huge minutes as a 20 year old kid.

Young players can be broken mentally if mismanaged. There is no rush to get these guys to that level. You want to build their comfort, confidence and consistency slowly to make sure they're always inn high morale and always hungry for a little bit more.
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Post#445 » by DCasey91 » Sun Nov 7, 2021 11:04 pm

Yeah the 2 steps forward one step back approach. Some rookies are still at the or behind the starting line regardless of stats.

Barnes and Mobley both need to managed carefully before you let them fully go off. Barnes is more physically equipped but you don’t keep a prize possession in the deep end for the whole time.

I like what the Rockets did with Green benching him in the last quarter. He had zero leash to start the year which is wrong because he’s the exact player to keep a tight leash on. That’s how you ingrain bad habits.

For how athletic Edwards is he hasn’t learned anything just has more volume. No thanks that’s not developing a youngster correctly.
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Post#446 » by tdotrep2 » Sun Nov 7, 2021 11:11 pm

basketballRob wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:30 minutes is more than almost all the rookies average.

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what? ok? we talking about fatigue in the 4th quarter. what are you talking about
Someone posted that he didn't play many minutes.

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the only thing said remotely close to that was he didnt play a lot in the 2nd half
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Post#447 » by NRSV » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:41 am

Wow Mobley is +18? Leading the game
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Post#448 » by DCasey91 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:45 am

Anyone watch the 3rd quarter? That’s a Superstar in the making. He’s like Smile from Ping Pong the Animation, there’s a monster under there :)
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Post#449 » by Bruin » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:50 am

I wonder if Houston regrets taking Green over Mobley. One seems like a high volume scorer but doesn’t bring much else to the table (like a Jordan Clarkson or Bradley Beal type) and struggles defensively while the other seems like a generational type
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 2) 

Post#450 » by QingJames » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:06 am

Mobley is already so formidable. Imagine where he'll be at with a couple of years of NBA strength training. Crazy to think about. Detroit and Houston will both regret passing on him - he's a once-in-a-decade big man talent.
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Post#451 » by Shy Gorgeous-Al » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:19 am

Mobley is on a tier of his own right now.

He has shown new stuff tonight and he takes the lead. Wow, what a game for the rook.

He is not afraid of the moment at all. He knocked down 2 huge 3's right at the right time. He is clutch.
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Post#452 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:25 am

Mobley was by far the prospect I wanted OKC to pick and I'm pissed we couldn't :(

Cavs always lucky in the lottery but they can thank Houston for passing on him. Gonna be a very fun (and good) team to watch in the next years.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 2) 

Post#453 » by improper » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:28 am

Dadouv47 wrote:Mobley was by far the prospect I wanted OKC to pick and I'm pissed we couldn't :(

Cavs always lucky in the lottery but they can thank Houston for passing on him. Gonna be a very fun (and good) team to watch in the next years.


We haven't really been lucky in the lottery since the Bennett draft.
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Post#454 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:28 am

Mobley is incredible, statlines aside he impacts the defensive end so much.
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Post#455 » by Bruin » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:28 am

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Post#456 » by Bruin » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:29 am

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Dadouv47 wrote:Mobley was by far the prospect I wanted OKC to pick and I'm pissed we couldn't :(

Cavs always lucky in the lottery but they can thank Houston for passing on him. Gonna be a very fun (and good) team to watch in the next years.


We haven't really been lucky in the lottery since the Bennett draft.

Didn’t you guys win the lottery literally the next year?
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Post#457 » by improper » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:31 am

PrinceAli wrote:Didn’t you guys win the lottery literally the next year?


You're right. For some reason, I was thinking the Wiggins draft was before Bennett. Probably because we traded Wiggins before he ever played a game for us.
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Post#458 » by Bruin » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:39 am

Has Duarte’s production slowed down due to the return of Levert?
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Post#459 » by DCasey91 » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:40 am

Mobley to me was already All Star level if he upped his volume which he’s capable of. He may/may not be a superstar but he has superstar intangibles which something that can’t be learnt it’s innate and at the drop of the hat.

- One of the best in the league economically already

- People that look at stats and don’t watch miss why people rave about him

- Quickley deep rainbow drive shot last quarter next play instant move on up on the contest late without hesitation. Very next play swiped the ball out of the heavily contest rim area into Rubio on the wing to reset the offense

- A vet in Fournier was thrown off a mess up his shot when Mobley was just there in front. Rose hit some great contested shots one blocked and one miss but everybody in the league that isn’t strong enough to body Mobley, he’s like a grim reaper on that end just shuts it down. Once he matures goddamn

- He was the second highest scorer out of the highly touted bigs in over a decade plus. Ayton had the sweet jumper and was physically imposing but look at Mobley and you can see the huge untapped potential to go. He may look raw but that’s because he has so far to go. This is just the beginning. Sexton not on the court everything is much easier for everyone in the Cavs.

- While Rubio was hotter than the sun Mobley was in the background being very dominate on both sides of the floor in the third. Great in the last too.

- People mentioned he might be lost on offense/defense? Please. This kid’s awareness is out of control special on both sides. Knows when to go and when not to and when to get a bucket instead hey I want some gimme type of deal.

- Kids special his IQ is off the charts.
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Post#460 » by Bruin » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:43 am

Mobley definitely gives off Duncan vibes imo. Insanely poised and high IQ. He’s gonna be great for a long time. Hope he doesn’t have injury problems in his career cause he’s gonna be fun to watch
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