Shams: Kyrie Irving opting in

[mademan]

Kyrie is probably the only big name player in the NBA I've ever seen where I could legitimately see him turning down 30mil and sign with a team for the MLE for one year.

He'll never need to, imo. If the Nets actually think he's serious about it, they'll trade for WB and picks and try to flip them+their own picks for some decent players. Everyone talks about the irrationality of Kyrie, but the Nets would be irrational to let him walk for nothing. Theyre really gonna play a game of chicken with Kyrie? lmaooooo

What picks? This sounds like a post advertised by the Lakers management.

Lakers have 2 first rounders to trade. Like i said, a lot of people are gonna be disappointed if/when this happens. If Kyrie has a legit threat of just walking away, then expiring salary filler+2 1st rounders is far, far better than the alternative. Easy for everyone to see where Kyrie is being irrational, but this would be the Nets FO being irrational

[The-Power]

That said, I'm pretty curious to see the next power-struggle between KD and the Nets over a trade. I know Woj says "he has no say where he plays"... I'll believe that when I see it. I think KD will do everything in his power to dictate the team he goes to by threatening to not play for a team or something, but I can also see the Nets be so fed up with being pushed around, that they would just try and trade him anywhere they get the best deal from and screw any demands from KD's side.

Threaten to not play for 4 years and potentially lose a lot of money because of it, as a person who by all accounts loves playing basketball and cares greatly about his legacy? Nah, I don't think KD has a lot of leverage here. Normally you'd try to accommodate your superstar's wishes to not burn bridges or risk your reputation, but this would all be driven by KD and the Nets also cannot afford to take anything less than the best offer in this case. So I'd be really careful not to push too hard if I were KD.

[mademan]

That said, I'm pretty curious to see the next power-struggle between KD and the Nets over a trade. I know Woj says "he has no say where he plays"... I'll believe that when I see it. I think KD will do everything in his power to dictate the team he goes to by threatening to not play for a team or something, but I can also see the Nets be so fed up with being pushed around, that they would just try and trade him anywhere they get the best deal from and screw any demands from KD's side.

Threaten to not play for 4 years and potentially lose a lot of money because of it, as a person who by all accounts loves playing basketball and cares greatly about his legacy? Nah, I don't think KD has a lot of leverage here. Normally you'd try to accommodate your superstar's wishes to not burn bridges or risk your reputation, but this would all be driven by KD and the Nets also cannot afford to take anything less than the best offer in this case. So I'd be really careful not to push too hard if I were KD.

Teams dont want guys who dont wanna be there. I will say tho, of all the superstars in the league, KD is one of the less high maintenance ones. I dont see him causing a ruckus if the team he goes to is decent and can contend for a title (and i dont see teams who cant contend for a title trading for a 34 year old KD anyways)

[John Murdoch]

If the Nets really let KD and Kyrie go, they will look like utter morons.

I would rather go down with the sinking ship then be a trash team with no draft picks for the forseeable future.

They have made a crucial error. The fanbase will revolt. It will go back to the old days where the only purpose of Barclays is for people in NYC to come cheer for opposing teams.

Two bad options rly...Marks sold his soul to a big 3 just like Pelinka

[Homer38]

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[nzahir]

Love that Indy/BKN/LAL 3 way

Whats the framework of the deal?

BKN gets : Brogdon, Turner

IND gets: WB , Claxton, THT , LAL 27, LAL 29

LAL gets, Irving, Hield

I don't see us giving up both 1sts honestly, I can see a 1st and a couple 2nds or a swap

Is THT a positive or a negative in this deal?

Don't need Hield if we are gettign Kyrie, defense would be awful

Framework isn't awful though

[facothomas22]

Here we go again. Lakers wondering why the Nets are not taking Westbrook and THT.

Why not!?

This shows how delusional the Lakers Front Office and their fan base really is. If the Pacers are unwilling to trade a injury prone Malcolm Brodgon for Westbrook,TNT and a unprotected 2027 1st round pick,what makes them think the Nets would trade Kyrie Irving for Westbrook and TNT,even when including unprotected picks. The reality is no team will be willing to take Westbrook,unless the Lakers include atleast 3-4 unprotected picks,which they don't have. The Front office and their fans simply need to accept that Westbrook isn't going anywhere(unless they buy him out or waive him).

[RoundMoundOfRebound]

Only a matter of time before we see Kyrie posting a tik tok from his bed where he's eating vaseline.

[DusterBuster]

Teams dont want guys who dont wanna be there. I will say tho, of all the superstars in the league, KD is one of the less high maintenance ones. I dont see him causing a ruckus if the team he goes to is decent and can contend for a title (and i dont see teams who cant contend for a title trading for a 34 year old KD anyways)

Ummm.... is anyone gonna tell him?

[G R E Y]

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This **** guy, man. Dude you're the architect of your own undoing. MY NAME MY NAME. It's in the gutter because of your actions.

[SK21209]

That said, I'm pretty curious to see the next power-struggle between KD and the Nets over a trade. I know Woj says "he has no say where he plays"... I'll believe that when I see it. I think KD will do everything in his power to dictate the team he goes to by threatening to not play for a team or something, but I can also see the Nets be so fed up with being pushed around, that they would just try and trade him anywhere they get the best deal from and screw any demands from KD's side.

Threaten to not play for 4 years and potentially lose a lot of money because of it, as a person who by all accounts loves playing basketball and cares greatly about his legacy? Nah, I don't think KD has a lot of leverage here. Normally you'd try to accommodate your superstar's wishes to not burn bridges or risk your reputation, but this would all be driven by KD and the Nets also cannot afford to take anything less than the best offer in this case. So I'd be really careful not to push too hard if I were KD.

Teams dont want guys who dont wanna be there. I will say tho, of all the superstars in the league, KD is one of the less high maintenance ones. I dont see him causing a ruckus if the team he goes to is decent and can contend for a title (and i dont see teams who cant contend for a title trading for a 34 year old KD anyways)

I don't think KD thinks like that either. Honestly, this could be good for KD's "brand". Say there is a LAL-BKN-IND/CHA three-team trade and Brooklyn gets something like Hayward/Rozier or Brogdon/Hield or Turner back for Kyrie.

Rozier/Harris/Hayward/KD/Simmons or Brogdon/Harris/KD/Simmons/Turner probably aren't the favorites in the East but those look like pretty solid lineups to me. Presuming health I might slot those teams right behind Milwaukee and Boston. KD could finally be "the guy" on a competitive, well-rounded team again. He'd be the guy that stuck it out after Harden and Kyrie forced their way out. KD is 34, does he really want to move to a 4th team after setting himself up in New York and losing that full year due to the Achilles?

[R-DAWG]

He'll never need to, imo. If the Nets actually think he's serious about it, they'll trade for WB and picks and try to flip them+their own picks for some decent players. Everyone talks about the irrationality of Kyrie, but the Nets would be irrational to let him walk for nothing. Theyre really gonna play a game of chicken with Kyrie? lmaooooo

What picks? This sounds like a post advertised by the Lakers management.

Lakers have 2 first rounders to trade. Like i said, a lot of people are gonna be disappointed if/when this happens. If Kyrie has a legit threat of just walking away, then expiring salary filler+2 1st rounders is far, far better than the alternative. Easy for everyone to see where Kyrie is being irrational, but this would be the Nets FO being irrational

ESPECIALLY if you are prepared to trade Durant. Grab assets and try to put a roster around Ben Simmons that also has a flexible cap sheet to get through the next 5 years as a fringe play-in team vs lotto team with no lotto picks.

[Birdon]

At this point in time, only his dad LBJ or a Mental Institution will be able to tame the beast Kyrie

[Former Nets Fan]

If the Nets really let KD and Kyrie go, they will look like utter morons.

I would rather go down with the sinking ship then be a trash team with no draft picks for the forseeable future.

They have made a crucial error. The fanbase will revolt. It will go back to the old days where the only purpose of Barclays is for people in NYC to come cheer for opposing teams.

The Nets have fans?

[Crives]

What picks? This sounds like a post advertised by the Lakers management.

Lakers have 2 first rounders to trade. Like i said, a lot of people are gonna be disappointed if/when this happens. If Kyrie has a legit threat of just walking away, then expiring salary filler+2 1st rounders is far, far better than the alternative. Easy for everyone to see where Kyrie is being irrational, but this would be the Nets FO being irrational

ESPECIALLY if you are prepared to trade Durant. Grab assets and try to put a roster around Ben Simmons that also has a flexible cap sheet to get through the next 5 years as a fringe play-in team vs lotto team with no lotto picks.

Actually if Bkn wants to maximize KD return, letting Kyrie walk gives them flexibility to take back S&T in KD trade. That might be more valuable then some late firsts from the lakers for Kyrie… and also let’s nets feel better about not helping Kyrie

[R-DAWG]

Lakers have 2 first rounders to trade. Like i said, a lot of people are gonna be disappointed if/when this happens. If Kyrie has a legit threat of just walking away, then expiring salary filler+2 1st rounders is far, far better than the alternative. Easy for everyone to see where Kyrie is being irrational, but this would be the Nets FO being irrational

ESPECIALLY if you are prepared to trade Durant. Grab assets and try to put a roster around Ben Simmons that also has a flexible cap sheet to get through the next 5 years as a fringe play-in team vs lotto team with no lotto picks.

Actually if Bkn wants to maximize KD return, letting Kyrie walk gives them flexibility to take back S&T in KD trade. That might be more valuable then some late firsts from the lakers for Kyrie… and also let’s nets feel better about not helping Kyrie

I assume your referencing Ayton here...question is can Ayton/Simmons fit together long term?

Simmons/Bridges would be the best defensive wing combo in the league, and running out Curry/Harris/Bridges gives Ben Simmons plenty of space to do what he does best.

[Crives]

ESPECIALLY if you are prepared to trade Durant. Grab assets and try to put a roster around Ben Simmons that also has a flexible cap sheet to get through the next 5 years as a fringe play-in team vs lotto team with no lotto picks.

Actually if Bkn wants to maximize KD return, letting Kyrie walk gives them flexibility to take back S&T in KD trade. That might be more valuable then some late firsts from the lakers for Kyrie… and also let’s nets feel better about not helping Kyrie

I assume your referencing Ayton here...question is can Ayton/Simmons fit together long term?

Simmons/Bridges would be the best defensive wing combo in the league, and running out Curry/Harris/Bridges gives Ben Simmons plenty of space to do what he does best.

If Simmons is not going to play center, it’s not a bad fit because Ayton can shoot the ball

[zshawn10]

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[GunnerWRX]

Reminds me of CP3 opting out, then reminding the opt-out, so he could opt in for the Rockets to trade for him - *all before FA began* - no one dared to point to tampering either because CP3 was the president of the PA. Didn’t hear of s&t, opt-in and trade etc required team permission either.

Kyrie is so behind CP3 for these maneuvers.

[R-DAWG]

Reminds me of CP3 opting out, then reminding the opt-out, so he could opt in for the Rockets to trade for him - *all before FA began* - no one dared to point to tampering either because CP3 was the president of the PA. Didn’t hear of s&t, opt-in and trade etc required team permission either.

Kyrie is so behind CP3 for these maneuvers.

A team can grant you permission to speak with other teams while you are under contract.