NBA FINALS, Gm 1 – Mavericks @ Celtics – 8:30PM, Thurs, June 6, 2024

Fencer reregistered · Post #441 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 6:53 pm

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I'm flabbergasted. Boogie cousins with a legitimate, well thought out take that is based on reality.

Yep. Very well said.

On the other hand, it isn't structured to rebut the observation that dominating the East is not the same as dominating the whole NBA.

Post #442 » by **Parliament10** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 6:53 pm

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Post #443 » by **165bows** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 6:57 pm

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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:It is Thursday yet? Sheesh

All this stuff about the Mavs, TV personalities picking the Mavs, Lively elite big man, Kyrie the 2nd coming of Isiah Thomas, Luka better than Jordan/James combined. etc.

This is officially called NOISE!

I foolishly lended some credence to Zach Lowe when he was all about being above voting for All-NBA etc since there was $ consequences attached.

After listening to his finals preview imo there is no way that this wasn't the corporate policy to pump the Mavs and he was just doing what he was told. Kyrie Irving as top-2 player in this series is just too bad of a take.

CelticsPride18 · Post #444 » by **CelticsPride18** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 7:08 pm

165bows wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:It is Thursday yet? Sheesh

All this stuff about the Mavs, TV personalities picking the Mavs, Lively elite big man, Kyrie the 2nd coming of Isiah Thomas, Luka better than Jordan/James combined. etc.

This is officially called NOISE!

I foolishly lended some credence to Zach Lowe when he was all about being above voting for All-NBA etc since there was $ consequences attached.

After listening to his finals preview imo there is no way that this wasn't the corporate policy to pump the Mavs and he was just doing what he was told. Kyrie Irving as top-2 player in this series is just too bad of a take.

They want fans to put a lot of money on Dallas. Most of sports media are affiliated to Sportsbook. Legal sports betting was a mistake

sam_I_am · Post #445 » by **sam_I_am** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 7:23 pm

Kyrie is an amazing talent and he does have the talent to be a difference maker. But imagine being a Dallas fan and needing Kyrie to be that difference maker? Not saying it can’t happen but I’m damn glad I’m not in that position anymore as a fan.

Tyakack · Post #446 » by **Tyakack** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 7:44 pm

I'm already bored talking and reading about this matchup. Still have a few days before tipoff. So incredibly frustrating.

zoyathedestroya · Post #447 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 8:03 pm

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Post #448 » by **165bows** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 8:22 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:
165bows wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:All this stuff about the Mavs, TV personalities picking the Mavs, Lively elite big man, Kyrie the 2nd coming of Isiah Thomas, Luka better than Jordan/James combined. etc.

This is officially called NOISE!

I foolishly lended some credence to Zach Lowe when he was all about being above voting for All-NBA etc since there was $ consequences attached.

After listening to his finals preview imo there is no way that this wasn't the corporate policy to pump the Mavs and he was just doing what he was told. Kyrie Irving as top-2 player in this series is just too bad of a take.

They want fans to put a lot of money on Dallas. Most of sports media are affiliated to Sportsbook. Legal sports betting was a mistake

Yuuup biiiiinnngo.

zoyathedestroya · Post #449 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 8:32 pm

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DAL, reg szn: 117.0
DAL vs. LAC: 115.9
DAL vs. OKC: 112.0
DAL vs. MIN: 118.3
DAL vs. BOS: ??

CelticsPride18 · Post #450 » by **CelticsPride18** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 8:52 pm

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DAL, reg szn: 117.0
DAL vs. LAC: 115.9
DAL vs. OKC: 112.0
DAL vs. MIN: 118.3
DAL vs. BOS: ??

If it’s close to the OKC number we are winning in 5.

zoyathedestroya · Post #451 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 8:57 pm

BOS DRtg, reg szn: 110.6
BOS DRtg vs. MIA: 100.7
BOS DRtg vs. CLE: 111.7
BOS DRtg vs. IND: 114.8
BOS DRtg vs. DAL: ??

Dunno if this makes sense, but for a full game, I feel the Pacers offense is harder to defend than the Mavs offense. Though I wouldn't want to be in a position to defend their clutch offense. Mavs were #1 in clutch win% and clutch offensive rating in the regular season.

zoyathedestroya · Post #452 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:14 pm

Yeah, I dunno how realistic this is without getting into foul trouble, but denying him the ball would be a great strategy. That's either when he doesn't bring up the ball and if he gives up the ball early. Make him work if he wants the ball. Let Kyrie playmake for them or even better someone else. That's a win for us imo.

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zoyathedestroya · Post #453 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:21 pm

Now or never, guysss.

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zoyathedestroya · Post #454 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:42 pm

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Post #455 » by **165bows** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:45 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Yeah, I dunno how realistic this is without getting into foul trouble, but denying him the ball would be a great strategy. That's either when he doesn't bring up the ball and if he gives up the ball early. Make him work if he wants the ball. Let Kyrie playmake for them or even better someone else. That's a win for us imo.

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That's literally just Jaylen playing defense tho not some crazy strategy.

zoyathedestroya · Post #456 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:50 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:Yeah, I dunno how realistic this is without getting into foul trouble, but denying him the ball would be a great strategy. That's either when he doesn't bring up the ball and if he gives up the ball early. Make him work if he wants the ball. Let Kyrie playmake for them or even better someone else. That's a win for us imo.

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That's literally just Jaylen playing defense tho not some crazy strategy.

When you have to do it for a full game or most of the game, it is a strategy. Consciously denying him the ball on inbounds after every make and hounding him is a strategy. Easier said than done for long stretches of the game.

Post #457 » by **165bows** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:56 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
165bows wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Yeah, I dunno how realistic this is without getting into foul trouble, but denying him the ball would be a great strategy. That's either when he doesn't bring up the ball and if he gives up the ball early. Make him work if he wants the ball. Let Kyrie playmake for them or even better someone else. That's a win for us imo.

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That's literally just Jaylen playing defense tho not some crazy strategy.

When you have to do it for a full game or most of the game, it is a strategy. Consciously denying him the ball on inbounds after every make and hounding him is a strategy. Easier said than done for long stretches of the game.

Well for sure it's not easy or like you say, necessarily sustainable for an entire game. But I mean strategy in the way that it isn't some whole team based scheme, it's just one guy.

KingofTheClay · Post #458 » by **KingofTheClay** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:57 pm

They’ll start Brown and Jrue on Luka, and they’ll finish with Tatum.

A prime Tatum in the biggest stage in theory is our best defender. Strong, long arms, and very reliable.

I have a feeling he’s shutting down Luka.

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BK_2020 · Post #459 » by **BK_2020** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 9:57 pm

Deny the ball to the whole team. Rangzzz.

meatball sub · Post #460 » by **meatball sub** » Mon Jun 3, 2024 10:20 pm

the media is pumping the mavs WAYYYYY too much. this is total nonsense at this point. they're a good team but it's just out of control at this point with how many people are straight up disrespecting this celtics team.