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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#441 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:12 pm

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SixthStreet wrote:Didn't realize Ingram is an expiring. If you think OG's max deal looks ugly, imagine trading picks for the privilege of paying Ingram $55m beginning in 25-26.

Ingram is THE worst outcome this offseason and number 2 isn't close (well, I'm not counting Bridges).


I’ve seen plenty of Tatum fake star comments this month, but damn, a player like Ingram fits that label like a glove.


Ingram would be asked to be the 2nd or 3rd best player on any given night. He'd be responsible for half-court shot creation, playmaking, and continuing to get his nightly 20/5/5 on good percentages.

Tatum is painted as the face of the franchise and only got over the hump with 4 super role players. He also has a co-star who proved to be better than him.

If anything, Embiid would be more at risk of being called a fake star with Maxey and Ingram carrying the offensive load in the playoffs.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#442 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:12 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Improving our rebounding issues should be the first and foremost concern. After that, I think things will fall into place with the roster.


Feels overly simplistic and reactionary to losing to a great rebounding team.

If your perimeter guys can't stay in front of their man and our big is forced to come help or you're forced in a zone, rebounding will continue to be an issue regardless of how good your players are at rebounding.


We’ve been around 20th in rebounding for 3 straight years so I don’t think it’s an overreaction to one series. It also puts an unsustainable physical load on Embiid that we need to reduce.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#443 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:12 pm

its holy recency bias batman of me but my guess is that OG would be our Jrue addition...got to use the rest of the assets to find the KP addition

it falls apart as we don't have the White or Horford already on the team tho
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#444 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:24 pm

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He missed half the season.
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Post#445 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:26 pm

It does feel like a defensive 4 would help this team a lot. The problem is there aren't many options this offseason. OG, Draymond, and who else is remotely a possibility? Even OG is a tad undersized and isn't a great rebounder.

Kyle Anderson always scores near the top in terms of DRTG. He's not a lob threat or shooter but is great at a lot of other things. Would need at least one other high-volume 3-point shooter in the lineup though.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#446 » by youngcrev » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:30 pm

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youngcrev wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Improving our rebounding issues should be the first and foremost concern. After that, I think things will fall into place with the roster.


Feels overly simplistic and reactionary to losing to a great rebounding team.

If your perimeter guys can't stay in front of their man and our big is forced to come help or you're forced in a zone, rebounding will continue to be an issue regardless of how good your players are at rebounding.


We’ve been around 20th in rebounding for 3 straight years so I don’t think it’s an overreaction to one series. It also puts an unsustainable physical load on Embiid that we need to reduce.


Sure, I just don't know how much to put that on a trait of guys being good at rebounding, vs team philosophy, vs guys being out of position due to helping, vs the team needing to play zone (which inherently makes rebounding more of an issue).

Basically, I don't think they should be looking at addressing rebounding at the detriment of other areas. I'd target getting better at other areas and hope that it helps the rebounding as a byproduct.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#447 » by FireMorey » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:34 pm

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FireMorey wrote:If you want comedic relief for the day:

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He missed half the season.


Embiid averaged 35 ppg. In the games he played he had one of the most dominant regular seasons in NBA history by any player. I don't care if he played 20 games, under no circumstance were Pascal Siakam and Rudy Gobert better than Embiid this season.

This "whoa is me" we can't be happy or appreciate anything Sixers related because we are bitter and cynical attitude Sixers fans have developed lately is really insufferable and unbecoming.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#448 » by Covi_Marsh » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:35 pm

There’s no way y’all clamoring to pay OG Annunby 4 yrs 181.9 mil to play on ball defense and make a 3 here and there. He can’t even stay healthy doing that.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#449 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:36 pm

Instead of OG, I'd be more interested in banking on development and throwing a substantially smaller contract at Jalen Smith to play a hybrid PF/C role. His best minutes this year were him playing next to Myles Turner.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#450 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:38 pm

FireMorey wrote:This "whoa is me" we can't be happy or appreciate anything Sixers related because we are bitter and cynical attitude Sixers fans have developed lately is really insufferable and unbecoming.


You're an idiot.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#451 » by FireMorey » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:39 pm

Stanford wrote:
FireMorey wrote:This "whoa is me" we can't be happy or appreciate anything Sixers related because we are bitter and cynical attitude Sixers fans have developed lately is really insufferable and unbecoming.


You're an idiot.


The fact that you have no rebuttal and resort to childish insults speaks for itself. Grow up.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#452 » by Monix » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:39 pm

if you're looking for someone to "save you" Paul George ain't that guy and neither is Brandon Ingram
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#453 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:41 pm

FireMorey wrote:
Stanford wrote:
FireMorey wrote:This "whoa is me" we can't be happy or appreciate anything Sixers related because we are bitter and cynical attitude Sixers fans have developed lately is really insufferable and unbecoming.


You're an idiot.


The fact that you have no rebuttal and resort to childish insults speaks for itself. Grow up.


Idiot was a technical term.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#454 » by Covi_Marsh » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:45 pm

Monix wrote:if you're looking for someone to "save you" Paul George ain't that guy and neither is Brandon Ingram


We’re looking for Maxey to improve and Embiid to stop getting injured as the saviors. Paul George at least give you a good rebounder, defender and secondary play maker at an all nba level. If I’m spending I’d rather have that then 45 per to OG to not shoot 3s in volume or trade assets for the opportunity to max out Ingram. Idc how young they are. They old enough, where they are what they are. Fringe all star players. PG even with a decline is in that range.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#455 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:50 pm

Monix wrote:if you're looking for someone to "save you" Paul George ain't that guy and neither is Brandon Ingram


As much as Paul George gets deserved criticism, he has an entire career of carrying teams through the playoffs.

OG has always been a cog in the machine. I'd believe in PG or even Ingram to a lesser extent, who has had two playoff series to his name: one as the guy and carried the Pelicans to a 6 game series with the Suns and this year where he sucked.

That said, none of these options particularly inspire me.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#456 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:04 pm

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Post#457 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:20 pm

I also hope we get involved with Simone Fontecchio. Guy who was heating up at the end of last year for the Pistons. Might not be as sexy of a FA, but he's in his prime right now (29 years old). SF/PF switchability. Flamethrower from three with the ability to put the ball on the ground. Nice role player off the bench.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#458 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:22 pm

whoever we sign/trade for is going to have flaws be it age, injury concerns, role concerns, or whatever

this idea that the perfect player is just out there on the market is not realistic. You are banking on them playing next to Biid and Maxey and thriving off of teams mainly trying to stop them and in the best case scenario being a guy teams try to stop as well. Thats basketball in a simple sense, try to make it so the defense have to make tough decisions on who to leave in single coverage or cheat off of...Tobias' lack of quick trigger and being more of a rhythm guy made him easy as **** to do so. The Knicks blitzed Maxey in game 6 and Jo was free to eat, having another guy be able to at least make the defense think, makes it harder to blitz Maxey.

Now IDK if PG, OG, Jimmy, or whoever can do that full time but I think they make teams at least think about it. Hell OG when he wasn't dead made us pay for leaving him quite bit in the Knicks series.

And regardless, its just the first move, Morey has to fill out a whole **** roster...which is the scary part if we are already looking at Dekkers of the world lol (but thats better than known washed players...at least go through the mystery washed pile I guess)
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#459 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:28 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
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I’m loving the LeBron train you’ve hitched onto lol.

I think if there’s any evidence LeBron would leave, it was the whole “pick a coach for beyond me” comment.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#460 » by youngcrev » Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:28 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I also hope we get involved with Simone Fontecchio. Guy who was heating up at the end of last year for the Pistons. Might not be as sexy of a FA, but he's in his prime right now (29 years old). SF/PF switchability. Flamethrower from three with the ability to put the ball on the ground. Nice role player off the bench.


I forget what I was reading/listening to that said "don't be surprised if he gets more than Tobias Harris"

He's an interesting one, but is a RFA (gotta be the oldest restricted free agent ever, no?), and Detroit has plenty of cap to burn.

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